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Yogibear41
2013-12-07, 07:53 AM
Do the spell like abilities such as fey presence, fey legacy, and fiendish presence, base their saving throws off of Charisma? I can't seem to find it in the book anywhere.

hymer
2013-12-07, 08:00 AM
Unless noted otherwise, spell-likes key off charisma (see for example MM p. 315).
Edit: Also worth noting is that spell-likes DC is 10+½lvl+cha mod, and thus not limited to the spell level.

Yogibear41
2013-12-07, 08:28 AM
The saving throw (if any) against a spell-like ability is 10 + the
level of the spell the ability resembles or duplicates + the creature’s
Cha modifier.


Is what is says on page 315 of the MM

It does say this though:
The saving throw (if any) against a supernatural ability is 10 +
1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s ability modifier (usually
Charisma).

Which is probably where you got that from

hymer
2013-12-07, 09:31 AM
Quite right. Just wanted to see if you were paying attention.