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Yogibear41
2013-12-10, 02:35 AM
In the deathless entry in the Ebberon book it lays out a bunch of spells that don't effect deathless the same way they do undead, however there are still lots of other spells that still target undead type creatures for better or worse, what types of these spells should also work on deathless? Which shouldn't? Positive/Negative type energy spells seems pretty obvious how they should work but what about other types such as disguise undead and stone bones?

cakellene
2013-12-10, 05:27 AM
Which Eberron book? Does it have additional information that isn't in BoED about deathless?

Yogibear41
2013-12-10, 06:41 AM
Campaign setting, and IDK I will have to check what the BOED says, forgot they were in there.


EDIT: they say almost the exact same thing.

Yuki Akuma
2013-12-10, 06:42 AM
Deathless are a separate creature type. They are not Undead.

Any spell that specifically affects Undead does not affect Deathless. Because they're a different creature type.

Yogibear41
2013-12-10, 06:44 AM
They are highly similar and are basically 2 sides of the same coin. So I didn't feel like it was to far fetched to have spells that buff undead that don't involve negative energy to also work on deathless, if not then perhaps research of new spells that essentially do the same exact thing but target deathless instead.

Yuki Akuma
2013-12-10, 06:46 AM
They are a different creature type.

Spells that specifically only work on Humanoids do not work on Monstrous Humanoids, despite their similarity.

Researching spells that do the same thing to Deathless is fine.