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Flickerdart
2013-12-11, 08:27 PM
We all know that a wizard can kick ass and take truenames. We also know that being awesome takes time, and you can't pencil in every wannabe mageslayer into your calendar between poker with Vecna and taking over the world.

So how many ways, exactly, are there of affecting a battlefield while enjoying a cup of tea in your tent/tower/demiplane? Obviously, the less work it takes on your part, the better. Let's make a list!

astral projection: The best way of being there while not being there, but aside from not dying when you get killed, it's exactly the same as if you'd actually gone to do stuff.
greater status: Now we're talking! Cast this on your buddies in the morning, and then go to Disney World while they're waist-deep in black pudding. Sadly, the information you get from the spell and the spells you can cast through the link are limited. Still, I think there's a lot we can do with this.
scrying: This helps you mitigate the lack of information inherent in greater status, but the effects that work through it don't actually affect anything.
project image or forest child: Very nice - the duplicate can do basically everything you can - but its short duration, LoE requirement, and range mean that you have to deign to actually visit the vicinity of the adventure.
remote viewing: Psionics shines through for this one, but not brightly. You can manifest a single power through this scry-alike before it ends, and it costs double to do so. Summoning something nasty to beat up whatever you saw is probably the best use of this ability.
eye of power: As arcane eye, but you can cast 3rd level or lower spells through it. By the time you get this (it's a 9th level spell) there's not that much you can do with 3rd level ones, and the duration is also crap.
Ring gates: Stick your favourite limb through this thing whenever you're needed. Being half there is better than being fully there, but not ideal.
Raven Harrier: A knight of the raven can cast spells through his raven if he accepts a longer casting time, but he must still have line of sight.
Line of Shadow: 1/day, affect a creature without needing LoS or LoE as long as you had them INT mod rounds ago or later, and they get a save bonus equal to the delay. Oh, and you also can't use touch attacks through this.
clearstone: Make stone see-through, granting line of sight but not line of effect. Combine with raven to wheel around in a fortress of rock?

Are there any other abilities that work sort of like this? While things like bend perspective and ranged legerdemain are okay, I'm more interested in abilities that let you cast spells from a different location than your own.

holywhippet
2013-12-11, 08:31 PM
You could create undead/golems/whatever and send them in to fight on your behalf. You could create a simulacrum who will have a certain amount of your power.

Emperor Tippy
2013-12-11, 08:34 PM
Ice Assassin of yourself with Scout Goggles for both of you and a Permanent Telepathic Bond with the Ice Assassin.

Anywhere on the same plane you can effectively see out of the IA's eyes at will and can order it around. It also has all of your abilities.

Flickerdart
2013-12-11, 08:45 PM
Ice Assassin of yourself with Scout Goggles for both of you and a Permanent Telepathic Bond with the Ice Assassin.

Anywhere on the same plane you can effectively see out of the IA's eyes at will and can order it around. It also has all of your abilities.
"Identical clone of yourself" is close enough to "yourself" as to not make a lick of difference, really.

Although these Scout Goggles sound interesting. Where are they and what do they do?

Emperor Tippy
2013-12-11, 08:58 PM
"Identical clone of yourself" is close enough to "yourself" as to not make a lick of difference, really.
Well if you are smart you make an Ice Assassin of an Ice Assassin of yourself and then kill the first Ice Assassin. This stops any issues over the pesky "trying to kill the original" phrase in Ice Assassin.

Possibly combined with Simulacrums for stuff that a lower level stand in can do.

Incidentally this also lets you be doing stuff in multiple locations simultaneously.


Although these Scout Goggles sound interesting. Where are they and what do they do?
Dragon Compendium page 140 (or Dragon #319). They are matched sets and when the command word is spoken by one of the Goggles to transmit information anyone else with a pair in that set can speak another command word to receive the information and basically gets to see through the eyes of the transmitting set. Unlimited duration and no range limit so long as they are on the same plane.

Flickerdart
2013-12-11, 09:08 PM
Well if you are smart you make an Ice Assassin of an Ice Assassin of yourself and then kill the first Ice Assassin. This stops any issues over the pesky "trying to kill the original" phrase in Ice Assassin.

Possibly combined with Simulacrums for stuff that a lower level stand in can do.

Incidentally this also lets you be doing stuff in multiple locations simultaneously.
Well sure, but the question here isn't "how do I clone myself and then make my clone do stuff." Having duplicates of yourself slogging in the mud cheapens the brand image of an omnipresent god-wizard.



Dragon Compendium page 140 (or Dragon #319). They are matched sets and when the command word is spoken by one of the Goggles to transmit information anyone else with a pair in that set can speak another command word to receive the information and basically gets to see through the eyes of the transmitting set. Unlimited duration and no range limit so long as they are on the same plane.
That's a nifty little toy indeed. What's the cost?

LTwerewolf
2013-12-11, 09:14 PM
Price is 15,000.

Palanan
2013-12-11, 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Flickerdart
Having duplicates of yourself slogging in the mud cheapens the brand image of an omnipresent god-wizard.

Doom disputes this.

:smallamused:

eggynack
2013-12-11, 09:21 PM
Forest child (CChamp, 121) does something like this, except crappy, and with a weird tree conduit.

Emperor Tippy
2013-12-11, 09:27 PM
Give the party a set of interplanar Ring Gates (ideally sized down to the original size).

Sit in your library reading or doing whatever and when you are needed just stick your upper body through, do whatever, and then pull it back out.

Flickerdart
2013-12-11, 09:28 PM
Forest child (CChamp, 121) does something like this, except crappy, and with a weird tree conduit.
Seems basically like project image for druids.

eggynack
2013-12-11, 09:37 PM
Seems basically like project image for druids.
Quite so, although it is significantly worse. The need for a nearby tree is kinda ridiculous at 8th level spells, and the fact that the treeature is clearly not you is also problematic. Still, those issues aren't insurmountable, and it's certainly a spell deserving of cool points.

Flickerdart
2013-12-12, 09:55 AM
Found another one - a Knight of the Raven can cast from his raven so long as he has line of sight. I'm sure there's some way to get around that limit...does Malphas' Bird's Eye Viewing count as line of sight?

Chronos
2013-12-12, 10:15 AM
It takes some jumping through hoops, but the Wu Jen spell Body Outside Body can be used this way. First you need some way to persist it (Incantatrix is of course the best), then you need some way for the clones to do useful things, given that they can't cast spells (Archmage's spell-like abilities or Dweomerkeeper's supernatural spell).

Flickerdart
2013-12-12, 10:16 AM
It takes some jumping through hoops, but the Wu Jen spell Body Outside Body can be used this way. First you need some way to persist it (Incantatrix is of course the best), then you need some way for the clones to do useful things, given that they can't cast spells (Archmage's spell-like abilities or Dweomerkeeper's supernatural spell).
Clones are easy - Tippy's got it covered with his very favourite gun already, and Astral Projection is #1 on the list already. Not really what I'm looking for, unless said clones have some way of affecting stuff at range that you don't.