Halfling thrower

[evyldead]

Hi all, How would you make a Halfling character specializes in throwing shurikens. The build would probably go ninja/master thrower. Ninja for the invisble effect of course. but what would be the best weapon enhancements and armor and also the feats i would have to take.

[Jormengand]

I must ask: Are you allowed to use PF?

[Blackhawk748]

Well a friend of mine did a build with a Monk Ninja Master Thrower, though im not sure as to the specifics, though you do throw an absurd amount of shurikens

[Jormengand]

Well a friend of mine did a build with a Monk Ninja Master Thrower, though im not sure as to the specifics, though you do throw an absurd amount of shurikens

Flurry of Blows allows you to add extra shots to your FRAA, but I'm more concerned with the PF Ninja, who can do the same only with other funky stuff tacked on and no SA reduction for being a monk.

[evyldead]

DMG 3.5, PHB 3.5, MM 3.5, Complete warrior, complete arcane, complete divine, etc. ... no PF is allowed and yes im looking for the most attacks around and most damage but i dont know exactly how to do it.

[Ravens_cry]

Aw, here I was hoping for a thread about *throwing* halflings.:smalltongue:

[Jormengand]

DMG 3.5, PHB 3.5, MM 3.5, Complete warrior, complete arcane, complete divine, etc. ... no PF is allowed and yes im looking for the most attacks around and most damage but i dont know exactly how to do it.

If PF is not allowed, then take a single level of monk for Flurry of Blows, take the full TWF chain and Ninja 19 and deal 80d6 damage with your sneak attack on a full attack. Take sniper-y things and Everything of Greater Invisibility to stay sneak-attacking. Profit.

Your attack bonus needs to be insane, though, because you're taking a -2 for flurrying and a -2 for TWF, not to mention the penalties on iterative/GTWF attacks.

[evyldead]

If PF is not allowed, then take a single level of monk for Flurry of Blows, take the full TWF chain and Ninja 19 and deal 80d6 damage with your sneak attack on a full attack. Take sniper-y things and Everything of Greater Invisibility to stay sneak-attacking. Profit.

Your attack bonus needs to be insane, though, because you're taking a -2 for flurrying and a -2 for TWF, not to mention the penalties on iterative/GTWF attacks.

Doesn't TWP only apply to mellee weapons?

[Jormengand]

Doesn't TWP only apply to mellee weapons?

No. (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Two-weapon_fighting)

"Thrown Weapons
The same rules apply when you throw a weapon from each hand. Treat a dart or shuriken as a light weapon when used in this manner, and treat a bolas, javelin, net, or sling as a one-handed weapon."

[zilonox]

Your attack bonus needs to be insane, though, because you're taking a -2 for flurrying and a -2 for TWF, not to mention the penalties on iterative/GTWF attacks.

The Zen Archery feat would help with that.

[Blackhawk748]

and decrease MAD considerably

[evyldead]

So what would the classes be? We have the feats - twp tree line some archery ones.

[Blackhawk748]

Monk/Ninja/Master Thrower You take Astetic Stalker to get them to stack, im just not sure about how many levels of each

[Lord Vukodlak]

Anyone else enter this topic thinking it was about throwing halflings?

[Ravens_cry]

Anyone else enter this topic thinking it was about throwing halflings?
Yep! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16610207&postcount=6):smallbiggrin:

[evyldead]

Honestly if this master thrower don't work I will make a halving thrower XD

[Legendxp]

Pff! When I first saw the name of this thread I thought it was about an ogre or something that specialized in throwing halflings at people. :smallbiggrin:

[Metahuman1]

Drop a Dip of Shiba Protector int there to get Wis to damage.

[Slipperychicken]

Aw, here I was hoping for a thread about *throwing* halflings.:smalltongue:


Anyone else enter this topic thinking it was about throwing halflings?


Pff! When I first saw the name of this thread I thought it was about an ogre or something that specialized in throwing halflings at people. :smallbiggrin:

I would totally play a character who specialized at throwing his halfling minions comrades at people. Especially if they were armed with utensils like forks and knives to eat enemies for second breakfast.


Bonus points if it's a Bloodstorm Blade who uses them to play Halfling Pinball.

[cakellene]

Anyone else enter this topic thinking it was about throwing halflings?

Yup, was all prepared to ask what the range increment for halflings was too.

[Lord Vukodlak]

Yup, was all prepared to ask what the range increment for halflings was too.

Well an improvised thrown weapon has a range increment of 10ft so I suppose you could apply that to a Halfling....

[Blackhawk748]

Im pretty sure there was a feat designed for throwing characters smaller than you, I know someone who played a Hulking Hurler that threw a Gnome Reaping Mauler who wore spiked armor at people. Was actually really effective

[Rhaegar14]

If you're going for precision damage (Sneak Attack), you may want to stay away from Master Thrower; it was in Complete Warrior's errata that Palm Throw doesn't let you apply precision damage twice.

[evyldead]

i know that im looking for the best optimized build lol like feats... Wel i already have the feats, so the armor and the classes-monk/fighter-ninja-master thrower. Also how would imake every single shuriken come back and not break i know the returning enhancement can do that.

[Vhaidara]

Im pretty sure there was a feat designed for throwing characters smaller than you, I know someone who played a Hulking Hurler that threw a Gnome Reaping Mauler who wore spiked armor at people. Was actually really effective

Yeah, it's called Fling Ally from Races of Stone. The followup feat is fling enemy, where you grab the goblin and throw it at the ogre. Bonus points if the ogre catches the goblin with his mouth.

As far as actual on topic statements, I second the monk/ninja/master thrower. I kind of like the ideas with MT, especially if you take the tripping throw.

EDIT: Yeah, returning is fantastic. Also means you only need as many shurikens as you can throw in a round.

[Blackhawk748]

Shurikens dont break as they are thrown weapons, if your DM says they do throw one at him and see if it breaks tell him that a solid metal star is very unlikely to break on contact.

And technically Sudden Strike shouldnt be applied to all the Shurikens thrown, but most people just wave that one as its so very ninja-y and it really doesnt seem to act like a volley attack

[evyldead]

So level 9 i didnt go monk for the reason of the feats I would need for the build to work i got ninja 5/fighter 2/master thrower 2..... now if i go monk what would be the point ?

[Blackhawk748]

a lot more throwing in a round, but you could probably do this build without it

[evyldead]

How is it more throwing ?

[Blackhawk748]

more attacks from flurry of blows

[evyldead]

If yo use flurry of blows say you only have a +2/+2 then you will only get a 2/2...

[Blackhawk748]

yes but you mix it with sudden strike and then your doing more damage, the shurikens are really just a means of getting your sudden strike to the target.

[evyldead]

but without monk then my attacks would be 5 attacks a round then 2 ...