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Seer_of_Heart
2013-12-14, 10:05 AM
I remember seeing a variant la system so that you could still play an LA+1 creature as a level 1 character. Does anyone know where it comes from?

Karnith
2013-12-14, 10:28 AM
I remember seeing a variant la system so that you could still play an LA+1 creature as a level 1 character. Does anyone know where it comes from?
Player's Guide to Faerun has a variant rule for "Powerful Races at 1st Level" (p. 190). Said rule allows a character with a level adjustment to start a game as a first-level character with "negative level adjustments" equal to the race's normal LA. These negative level adjustments give various penalties, such as to skill checks, attack rolls, saving throws, and the like, to balance out the benefits of the character's LA. When such a character gains enough XP that he would normally advance a level, that character instead removes one of his negative level adjustments. Once the character has "bought off" negative level adjustments, he has his race's full level adjustment and may advance as normal for a creature with LA.

nedz
2013-12-14, 12:09 PM
There's also the Savage Progressions system. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/sp)

zlefin
2013-12-14, 12:39 PM
In e6; you compensate for LA with a lower point-buy for stats rather than reduced levels.

Big Fau
2013-12-14, 12:46 PM
Player's Guide to Faerun has a variant rule for "Powerful Races at 1st Level" (p. 190). Said rule allows a character with a level adjustment to start a game as a first-level character with "negative level adjustments" equal to the race's normal LA. These negative level adjustments give various penalties, such as to skill checks, attack rolls, saving throws, and the like, to balance out the benefits of the character's LA. When such a character gains enough XP that he would normally advance a level, that character instead removes one of his negative level adjustments. Once the character has "bought off" negative level adjustments, he has his race's full level adjustment and may advance as normal for a creature with LA.

Said rule is hilariously overpowered with the right templates.

Ansem
2013-12-14, 12:52 PM
How does this benefit you?!
After you have bought of your negative levels you are still stuck with level adjustment.
A Drow who just bought off his -2 negative levels is now a lvl 3 character with 1 class level and 2 levels of Drow.
Am I missing something or does the negative leveling buyoff the LA as well?

cakellene
2013-12-14, 12:54 PM
Once you pay the xp to buy off LA, the drow would be character equal to class levels.

Big Fau
2013-12-14, 01:14 PM
How does this benefit you?!
After you have bought of your negative levels you are still stuck with level adjustment.
A Drow who just bought off his -2 negative levels is now a lvl 3 character with 1 class level and 2 levels of Drow.
Am I missing something or does the negative leveling buyoff the LA as well?

The rule was designed to let you play that Drow Whatever in a 1st level campaign.

ShurikVch
2013-12-14, 01:25 PM
Glimmerfolk is planetouched with LA +0

Lesser glimmerfolk is extraplanar humanoid with LA -1

Lesser glimmerfolk with whatever LA +1 template is LA +0