Do Kukris qualify as daggers for purposes...

[SirKillalot]

of focus and specialisation and prerequisites for for example the combat school Razorfiends, that requires use of daggers for the special abilities? Or are Kukris an entirely different type of weapon?

Thanks in advance!

[Maginomicon]

A kukri is essentially a forward-curved machete. Your GM makes all final decisions, but no, I woudln't call it a dagger. Now, what you might want to look into is a "disguised adamantine punching dagger" (the "disguised" mundane option is in Dragon Compendium) and you can then disguise it as anything you want of a similar size.

[Wharrrrrrgarbl]

Kukris are not daggers, as they require different proficiency feats, do different damage types, have different critical threat ranges, and are not named the same.

Houseruling it in isn't necessarily insane, but I'm not familiar with Razorfiends so they might interact in some way that is silly.

[SirKillalot]

thanks a lot !

[Vanitas]

Invisible Blades consider kukris dagger-like. So there is that!

[The Insanity]

Kukris are kukris. Besides, they're more short swords than daggers.

[Curmudgeon]

Invisible Blades consider kukris dagger-like. So there is that!
... which would matter only if you're trying to enter that prestige class. :smallsigh:

[Vanitas]

... which would matter only if you're trying to enter that prestige class. :smallsigh:

Or if you want to ask your DM "hey, could I count kukris as daggers? Invisible Blades already count them as daggers!".
No need to sigh just because someone is not as much into RAW as you. :smallwink:

[Scow2]

Kukris are more like Short Swords than Daggers.

[lsfreak]

Kukris are more like Short Swords than Daggers.

Closer to hatchets from what I know of them. Forward-curved blades, including kukris, tend to have blades that are wider and heavier at the tip like axes, as opposed to equal-width or tapering of more typical swords, making them axe-like in terms of how they're used. And I vaguely recall reading that the forward curvature itself lends to this due to how the balance shifts. Size-wise they're in line with daggers, though; people seem to underestimate the size of daggers and think of modern combat knives (or even smaller things like switchblades or shaving razors) and not the 16-20 inch weapons of history.

[Greenish]

Size-wise they're in line with daggers, though; people seem to underestimate the size of daggers and think of modern combat knives (or even smaller things like switchblades or shaving razors) and not the 16-20 inch weapons of history.A 16-20 inch (~40-50 cm) weapon would probably be in the short sword territory, in 3.5 terms. The game is notably inaccurate in naming the weapons, and its daggers are the small ones that get +2 to checks to hide them.

[SowZ]

Depending on your reasons for wanting them to count as daggers, I'd more than likely say, "Sure, why not." When it comes to physical weapons, I'm really lenient with what can do what.

[Spuddles]

A 16-20 inch (~40-50 cm) weapon would probably be in the short sword territory, in 3.5 terms. The game is notably inaccurate in naming the weapons, and its daggers are the small ones that get +2 to checks to hide them.

Overly fiddly weapon names are silly. A dnd dagger is anything from a 4inch hidden blade to a trench knife to a 20in stiletto.

[Killer Angel]

Or if you want to ask your DM "hey, could I count kukris as daggers? Invisible Blades already count them as daggers!".
No need to sigh just because someone is not as much into RAW as you. :smallwink:

And the DM will answer: "that's why you need a prc, to do what couldn't be done!" :smallbiggrin: