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Saniel
2013-12-15, 09:56 AM
So some guys here introduced a very clever idea that everyone who died in the comic brought their fate upon themselves.

Look at this: #763 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html)

Do you think then that Elan will actually lose a hand or eye?

Rakoa
2013-12-15, 10:04 AM
I doubt it. Tarquin has been talking about it far too much for it to actually happen.

BaronOfHell
2013-12-15, 10:05 AM
Also, Elan's not the one forcing the confrontation, though T may seem to believe so.

littlebum2002
2013-12-15, 10:07 AM
Sure. Then 5 minutes later Durkon can cast Regenerate.

Kish
2013-12-15, 10:14 AM
The person forcing the confrontation may well lose a hand.

Specifically, the hand with the Ring of Regeneration on it, after which he may well die.

Greatmoustache
2013-12-15, 10:28 AM
The person forcing the confrontation may well lose a hand.

Specifically, the hand with the Ring of Regeneration on it, after which he may well die.

i like where this tale is going, good sir. please, do tell me more.

RMS Oceanic
2013-12-15, 10:32 AM
The person forcing the confrontation may well lose a hand.

Specifically, the hand with the Ring of Regeneration on it, after which he may well die.

Ooh, I like this theory: Undone by his own prediction.

Kish
2013-12-15, 10:38 AM
I'd think it would be the obvious way to deal with someone who heals all injuries almost immediately because of a ring.

:roy: "Heal this! And if you actually do, I'll cut the other hand off next time!"

RNGgod
2013-12-15, 10:40 AM
Also, just to be clear, we do know which hand has the ring of regeneration.

In 762 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html), Tarquin points at his right hand while talking about the importance of having said ring.


So Elan knows, too.

Copperdragon
2013-12-15, 11:51 AM
I doubt he will. Such an act only makes sense when it comes unannounced and as a shock, like with Redcloak.
Speaking of that, we already have that played out.

And the only reason Redcloak does not just fix it with magic is the fact he's artificially restricted by an outside force. With Redcloak such a crippling is even stronger than it could ever be with Elan as his missing eye draws a very strong parallel to his brother.

Some people will come and claim it was forshadowed by Elan wearing an eyepatch on the ship (for a while) but I seriously doubt we'll see it for serious.
Also, the eyepatch does not look that good on Elan. And Tarquin is wrong: Elan does not need a physical "reminder" how bad the situation is with his father, he's going to remeber that on his own. The impression in Elan's memory is already strong enough.

Cuthalion
2013-12-15, 12:30 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking Tarkie gets majorly debilitated, but still alive...

JennTora
2013-12-15, 03:57 PM
Also, just to be clear, we do know which hand has the ring of regeneration.

In 762 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html), Tarquin points at his right hand while talking about the importance of having said ring.


:tarquin: muhaha I pointed at that hand so you'd think it was that hand! It's actually my left!

Edit: weird I thought I saw someone use a tarquin emoticon on here before...

Bulldog Psion
2013-12-15, 07:26 PM
Tarquin is castrated by a called shot from either Haley or Durk Malackssen, and kills himself in despair despite the ready availability of regenerative magic, because he believes his original Breeches Bugbear* to be irreplaceable.


*His equivalent of Roy's Trouser Titan.

ThePhantasm
2013-12-15, 07:55 PM
Also, just to be clear, we do know which hand has the ring of regeneration.

In 762 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html), Tarquin points at his right hand while talking about the importance of having said ring.

So Elan knows, too.

It is also the hand currently holding his dagger. So chopping off his hand would disarm him (pun too obvious) + have the added benefit of removing the ring.

rbetieh
2013-12-15, 08:00 PM
I'd think it would be the obvious way to deal with someone who heals all injuries almost immediately because of a ring.

:roy: "Heal this! And if you actually do, I'll cut the other hand off next time!"

Bah, knowing the Orders run of luck, it seems equally as likely that the hand would regenerate a second Tarquin!

Living Oxymoron
2013-12-15, 08:08 PM
So some guys here introduced a very clever idea that everyone who died in the comic brought their fate upon themselves.

Look at this: #763 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html)

Do you think then that Elan will actually lose a hand or eye?

If he does lose an eye, he will finally have some reason to use his eyepatch (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0502.html).


The person forcing the confrontation may well lose a hand.

Specifically, the hand with the Ring of Regeneration on it, after which he may well die.

That would be stupid. If Tarquin loses the hand with the ring, that hand will grow into another Tarquin and they will be 2x more dangerous and annoying (or simply dangerously annoying).

Kish
2013-12-15, 08:14 PM
If Tarquin's Ring of Regeneration worked that way...then Roy should definitely cut his hand off.

Not what you were expecting me to say? Of everyone in the OotS-world (or on this board, for that matter) who is bothered by Tarquin, no one would be more so than...Tarquin. Definitely no room in the OotS-world for two copies of that ego, and I wouldn't expect there to be anything left of either one of them by the time they were done trying to sort out who the real Tarquin was.

rbetieh
2013-12-15, 08:18 PM
If Tarquin's Ring of Regeneration worked that way...then Roy should definitely cut his hand off.

Not what you were expecting me to say? Of everyone in the OotS-world (or on this board, for that matter) who is bothered by Tarquin, no one would be more so than...Tarquin. Definitely no room in the OotS-world for two copies of that ego, and I wouldn't expect there to be anything left of either one of them by the time they were done trying to sort out who the real Tarquin was.

But they would get along splendidly when it comes to talking about drama...It's not like Hand-Tarquin would be an Anti-Tarquin :-)

137beth
2013-12-15, 08:27 PM
:tarquin: muhaha I pointed at that hand so you'd think it was that hand! It's actually my left!

Edit: weird I thought I saw someone use a tarquin emoticon on here before...

And then Roy would just cut off his other hand.

Saniel
2013-12-15, 08:35 PM
Bah, knowing the Orders run of luck, it seems equally as likely that the hand would regenerate a second Tarquin!

Bah, Tarquinal vegetative propagation..? So he could easily produce an army of himselves just by chopping off his little finger repeatedly?


No, srsly - so I conclude: It is T who is going to be maimed or killed (or so I hope).

Besides, it is him, who cannot comprehend the big picture. Elan has outgrown his schemes already, at least by joining a team which would help him get away (how different from Nale), engaging in a quest far bigger than any of Tarquin's own, and most importantly by getting Julio in-da-game: did you notice, how clever this actually was? Invented, planned and orchestrated by no-one else?
Tarkie, on the other hand, keeps perpetuating a silly, and what's worse - clicheed scheme of a "rebellious son who kills the dictator" plot.
Redcloak already understood efectiveness when he was killing the the resistance. He didn't have to show off.
Tarkie, on the other hand, lessens more and more every strip. Last show was terrifying, but we came to a point where he really needs to die, because he's spoiling the story, the same he wanted to make great.

ThePhantasm
2013-12-15, 08:36 PM
But they would get along splendidly when it comes to talking about drama...It's not like Hand-Tarquin would be an Anti-Tarquin :-)

No, because each Tarquin would see himself as the central villain of that drama, and thus they would disagree with one another strenuously.

rbetieh
2013-12-16, 03:51 AM
No, because each Tarquin would see himself as the central villain of that drama, and thus they would disagree with one another strenuously.

On the contrary. If he is willing to share power with 5 random schmos not named Tarquin, then sharing some power with a Schmo named Tarquin seems even better. Think of the extra statues of his likeness that would be around. What a great legacy it would be, to rule the galaxy as Tarquin and Hand!

martianmister
2013-12-16, 09:07 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "My own clone? Now neither of us will be virgins!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Elan.png "!!!!!1!!"

Megsie
2013-12-16, 09:40 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "My own clone? Now neither of us will be virgins!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Elan.png "!!!!!1!!"

I'm incredibly sleep deprived, so don't judge me, but.. I giggled at this for at least three minutes. Thanks! :D

Dorsidwarf
2013-12-16, 09:43 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "My own clone? Now neither of us will be virgins!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Elan.png "!!!!!1!!"

There's a custom emote for Elan looking horrified?

Trillium
2013-12-16, 09:43 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "My own clone? Now neither of us will be virgins!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Elan.png "!!!!!1!!"

WUT? O_O
...

Kornaki
2013-12-16, 11:30 AM
Remember that Tarquin's scheme is to keep a low profile. If there are a dozen of him running around acting as generals then it would be obvious that he's pulling all the strings. Both he and his clone know that the primary use of a clone is as a dupe - pretend there's only one Tarquin, and when the heroes come in they knock off your duplicate and leave. You lie low for a year then come back with a mustache or something to keep the ruse up.

Of course knowledge of this inevitable betrayal by each other won't stop them from teaming up and curbstomping the Order right now.

Oko and Qailee
2013-12-16, 12:02 PM
I'd think it would be the obvious way to deal with someone who heals all injuries almost immediately because of a ring.

:roy: "Heal this! And if you actually do, I'll cut the other hand off next time!"

I really want Roy to come up and wreck Tarquin somehow.

It would be the ultimate slap in the face to Tarquin.

Like V, manages to hold off Laurin. Tarquin gets up and approaches Elan and disables him, he stands above him and begins a monologue.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "You will become a hero Elan!"
:elan: "No! Roy is the hero and he is the best hero ever!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin.png "NO! YOU WIL-"
*Roy taps Tarquins shoulder from behind, Tarquin turns and Roy cuts his hand off*
:roy: "He's already a hero, even if he's not the one you want him to be"

(and then Roy regrets making that comment for the rest of his life as Elan brings it up every 3 seconds of their waking lives)

JennTora
2013-12-16, 12:03 PM
And then Roy would just cut off his other hand.

To be honest Tarquin would probably not shout it loudly for everyone to hear, he'd just be thinking it. Shouting it loudly would be more a nale thing. But it would be valid to argue that Roy might just notice something is amiss when Tarquin's hand starts growing back.

ThePhantasm
2013-12-16, 12:33 PM
On the contrary. If he is willing to share power with 5 random schmos not named Tarquin, then sharing some power with a Schmo named Tarquin seems even better. Think of the extra statues of his likeness that would be around. What a great legacy it would be, to rule the galaxy as Tarquin and Hand!

It isn't about sharing power. It's about sharing being-the-main-villain in the narrative. Tarquin doesn't see his 5 random schmos as central villains. HE is Elan's central villain. Another Tarquin just threatens that.

Gnome Alone
2013-12-16, 12:34 PM
That would be stupid. If Tarquin loses the hand with the ring, that hand will grow into another Tarquin and they will be 2x more dangerous and annoying (or simply dangerously annoying).

"WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

multilis
2013-12-16, 12:55 PM
If T lost his hand and the hand regenerated a new T, then the original T would see that with only one hand and no ring he was not the most important person.... the new T was.

So the old T would realize his life was a waste, and his life would change. He would team up with Elan so Elan compensated for his missing hand and battle the new T.

But the new T with ring of regeneration would kill the old T, and Elan would cry because he lost the father he finally gained, but the old T would say with dying breath, don't cry because you finally saved me son and what great drama way to die!

rbetieh
2013-12-17, 02:23 AM
"WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

If you do not see the Giants, it is simply that a jealous wizard replaced them with windmills in order to deny me my glory!