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The_Weirdo
2013-12-15, 04:19 PM
In D&D, nymphs cause blindness (DC 17) on any humanoid that lays eyes on them.

Suppose you have an army of humanoid enemies. Isn't it rather easy to defeat them by casting protections on a nymph (with the Blinding Beauty turned off) and then having her (with the Blinding Beauty turned on) streak through their lines? Maybe some ten or twenty of them?

Hamste
2013-12-15, 04:29 PM
A single wight place strategically can do it even better. A nymph can be taken out by an enemy who succeeded the save. A wight on the other hand placed in a single village can result in a tumult of ever increasing wights that slaughter all the commoners

The_Weirdo
2013-12-15, 04:40 PM
Better yet, nymphs AND wights! :D

Frozen_Feet
2013-12-15, 04:42 PM
Wights are corporeal and can thus be slain and taken down by an angry mob.

Shadow are where it's at.

Lorsa
2013-12-15, 04:43 PM
If I was a soldier, I would rather have a naked nymph running around next to me than a wight.

Lord_Gareth
2013-12-15, 04:44 PM
Wights are corporeal and can thus be slain and taken down by an angry mob.

Shadow are where it's at.

Wraiths represent, yo.

hymer
2013-12-15, 04:50 PM
In D&D, nymphs cause blindness (DC 17) on any humanoid that lays eyes on them.

In 3.5, that ability is limited to 30'.

Hamste
2013-12-15, 05:17 PM
I prefer wights because it makes more sense for them to be in an army(You will be commanding the very first one either way but if something happens you might be able to negotiate with wights). I do admit, shadows are considerably better (Faster and incorporeal though they kill slower)

Eurus
2013-12-15, 06:08 PM
There are a lot of monsters that can do a lot of damage to an army, yeah. Nymphs are CR 7, so throwing them against a low-level army is a bit of a lopsided fight. :smallamused:

Hellcats, remorhaz, a six-headed pyrohydra, a band of trolls... there's lots of fun mid-level monsters that can do terrible things to most militias. Incorporeal ones are just messed up, CR-wise, so they'll run wild on 90% of things.

Envyus
2013-12-15, 06:37 PM
I prefer wights because it makes more sense for them to be in an army(You will be commanding the very first one either way but if something happens you might be able to negotiate with wights). I do admit, shadows are considerably better (Faster and incorporeal though they kill slower)

Wights are also easy to get compared to Shadows. Just use enervation on some commoner and tada you have Wight. The only bad thing that can happen is losing the original Wight as that will result in all the others no longer being bound to serve you.

nedz
2013-12-15, 06:40 PM
I realised recently that my old battle scarred Dwarven Ranger (Cha 4) could prepare and cast Blinding Beauty (Book of Exalted Deeds) which would give him the Nymph Beauty / Blindness effect (range 60') :smallbiggrin:

Now that would stop an army.

Osiris
2013-12-15, 06:40 PM
This idea is beyond ludicrous. Yup, therefore I have to use it in my campaign!:smalltongue: That's how it works around here.

veti
2013-12-15, 07:04 PM
Really, D&D provides such a ridiculous multitude of ways to disable "an army"...

... that when someone singles out the way that just happens to involve a blindingly beautiful woman stark naked, I can't help but wonder about their motivations.

The_Weirdo
2013-12-15, 07:33 PM
Really, D&D provides such a ridiculous multitude of ways to disable "an army"...

... that when someone singles out the way that just happens to involve a blindingly beautiful woman stark naked, I can't help but wonder about their motivations.

I am offended, sir, OFFENDED, I SAY!

The Oni
2013-12-15, 08:53 PM
1. Acquire nymphs and psionic cohort
2. Acquire target army
3. Wormhole
4. She blinded me (with psions)!

Coidzor
2013-12-15, 09:08 PM
Streaking Nymph sounds like both a band name and the name of a martial arts style/technique. XD

The Oni
2013-12-15, 09:14 PM
Streaking Nymph sounds like both a band name and the name of a martial arts style/technique. XD

Streaking Nymph Style (Combat, Style)

Prerequisite: Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +3, Cha 15

Benefit: While fighting unarmed and in armor that covers no more than 25% of your body, you gain +2 to hit and AC against opponents who are attracted to you. When you confirm a critical hit, your opponent takes 1 point of (nose)bleed damage.

You're welcome.

Xefas
2013-12-15, 11:05 PM
Streaking Nymph sounds like both a band name and the name of a martial arts style/technique. XD

How about a Martial Discipline? Blinding Beauty Stance. Bludgeoning Chesticle Strike. Neck-Snapping Thigh Grapple. Legs For Days Stride. Aggressive Frolicking Massacre. Full Moon Parry. Impossible Flexibility Distraction Technique.

Slap it on an Incubus and now you have a proper shindig.

mucat
2013-12-16, 01:55 AM
4. She blinded me (with psions)!
...
I have no words.

Coidzor
2013-12-16, 02:50 AM
Streaking Nymph Style (Combat, Style)

Prerequisite: Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +3, Cha 15

Benefit: While fighting unarmed and in armor that covers no more than 25% of your body, you gain +2 to hit and AC against opponents who are attracted to you. When you confirm a critical hit, your opponent takes 1 point of (nose)bleed damage.

You're welcome.

This is nice. :smallamused:


How about a Martial Discipline? Blinding Beauty Stance. Bludgeoning Chesticle Strike. Neck-Snapping Thigh Grapple. Legs For Days Stride. Aggressive Frolicking Massacre. Full Moon Parry. Impossible Flexibility Distraction Technique.

Slap it on an Incubus and now you have a proper shindig.

This is awesome. :smallbiggrin:

Thank you both. :3

Vknight
2013-12-16, 04:06 AM
Hmmm this could be used... Hmmm Sordid Dystopia.
You take beauty magic limit it too only some sort of super fast martial arts well naked saying your opponent is blinded.... hmmm yeah that could be done.

But yeah just another thing too add to the list of things that can kill an army in D&D, considering said army is probably mostly made up of guys level 4 and below.

Hmmm Half-Dragon Gelatinous Cube mounted Naked Nymphs.

"I do say chaps was that a Nymph?"
"Why yes it was."
"I do believe she was using her ability to blind to disable parts of our army"
"Oh how bothersome, shall I handle it?"
"Oh no no don't worry, I have a specialist for this situation, much like for Wights, Shadows, Wraiths, and upstart young heroes seeking revenge"

Amphetryon
2013-12-16, 09:56 AM
Wights are corporeal and can thus be slain and taken down by an angry mob.

Shadow are where it's at.

I prefer throwing a few Allips at the opposing army, myself. :smallamused:

Eurus
2013-12-16, 02:28 PM
How about a Martial Discipline? Blinding Beauty Stance. Bludgeoning Chesticle Strike. Neck-Snapping Thigh Grapple. Legs For Days Stride. Aggressive Frolicking Massacre. Full Moon Parry. Impossible Flexibility Distraction Technique.

Slap it on an Incubus and now you have a proper shindig.

This is so good I might write it up.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-12-16, 03:01 PM
1. Acquire nymphs and psionic cohort
2. Acquire target army
3. Wormhole
4. She blinded me (with psions)!
You're awful and that was great.

The Glyphstone
2013-12-16, 11:32 PM
Streaking Nymph sounds like both a band name and the name of a martial arts style/technique. XD

Something from Exalted, probably. Streaking Nymph Style, a Celestial Marital Arts technique tree.punintended

lesser_minion
2013-12-17, 08:16 AM
Suppose you have an army of humanoid enemies. Isn't it rather easy to defeat them by casting protections on a nymph (with the Blinding Beauty turned off) and then having her (with the Blinding Beauty turned on) streak through their lines? Maybe some ten or twenty of them?

You are aware that there isn't actually anything in the rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) that requires the nymph to be nude in order to use her special attacks and qualities, right?

Also, they cast spells as the equivalent of a 7th-level druid. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of far nastier things that a whole bunch of nymphs could do to an army.

DigoDragon
2013-12-17, 08:58 AM
I'm reminded of the one campaign that culmunated in an epic Army-vs-Army battle and the PCs were the leaders of one side. The other side was led by a lich. It ended up that your general human infantry soldier was a rarity in that battle. :smallbiggrin:
I only did it once because of just how bizzare you can take your tactics with the right units on the field.

No one used the nymph trick though, that's not a bad idea.

The lich general had shadows and wraiths. Kill opposing soldiers, convert them to your side! The PCs had halflings on griffons with Bags of Tricks (ever have a black bear land on you?). However, mad props were given to my players for their idea of having their Wu-gen use giant Growth and wear several platforms for the archers and mages to stand on an rain enchanted death upon the enemy like a mobile missile platform. That was hilarious because they painted the Wu-gen to look like a Battletech Atlas.

Lord Torath
2013-12-17, 10:02 AM
In 2nd Edition, the mere sight of the nymph was enough to cause blindness. If she's streaking, seeing her causes death! :smalleek: (Assuming those viewing fail their saves vs spells)

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-12-17, 10:39 AM
If I may raise one problem with this?

If the nymph is streaking, that makes him/her invisible. :elan:

Coidzor
2013-12-17, 01:34 PM
This is so good I might write it up.

Do eeet! :smallbiggrin:

Icewraith
2013-12-17, 02:08 PM
If you don't want an army of undead, this is a great way to disable an army or cause it to switch sides without killing it.

Also, the opposing side is far less likely to hold a grudge if you do something embarrassing and nonlethal instead of turning their loved ones into undead horrors.

The Glyphstone
2013-12-17, 02:09 PM
If you're considering turning the opposing army into undead horrors in the first place, I very much doubt the feelings or opinions of their friends/relatives is anywhere near the top of your priority list.

Icewraith
2013-12-17, 03:59 PM
Less "considering" more "ability to".

If you have a nuke in your arsenal you still have to decide not to use it.

A Tad Insane
2013-12-17, 04:13 PM
If OotS has taught me one thing about dnd, is that being naked makes you almost invisible, so army would need to make a high spot check to see said nymph

Swordsaged

runeghost
2013-12-17, 04:30 PM
1. Acquire nymphs and psionic cohort
2. Acquire target army
3. Wormhole
4. She blinded me (with psions)!

Argh! Critical pun, right to my brain. That was horrifically awesome, as only puns can be. :smallbiggrin:

Mando Knight
2013-12-17, 04:34 PM
If I may raise one problem with this?

If the nymph is streaking, that makes him/her invisible. :elan:

Well, duh. It takes a DC 17 Will save to find her! :smalltongue:

The_Weirdo
2013-12-18, 07:01 PM
You are aware that there isn't actually anything in the rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) that requires the nymph to be nude in order to use her special attacks and qualities, right?

Yes, I am. What's your point? :smallbiggrin:


Also, they cast spells as the equivalent of a 7th-level druid. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of far nastier things that a whole bunch of nymphs could do to an army.

They can do that WHILE they streak.

Urpriest
2013-12-20, 12:02 AM
Something from Exalted, probably. Streaking Nymph Style, a Celestial Marital Arts technique tree.punintended

Come to think of it, Xefas's list...


How about a Martial Discipline? Blinding Beauty Stance. Bludgeoning Chesticle Strike. Neck-Snapping Thigh Grapple. Legs For Days Stride. Aggressive Frolicking Massacre. Full Moon Parry. Impossible Flexibility Distraction Technique.

Slap it on an Incubus and now you have a proper shindig.

...sounds rather like a Celestial Martial Art, more than it does a Martial Discipline even.

C'mon Xefas, time to Devil Tiger it up like the days of old!

Take too long and I'll just get meschlum to do it with fey. :smalltongue:

illyahr
2013-12-20, 11:17 AM
1. Acquire nymphs and psionic cohort
2. Acquire target army
3. Wormhole
4. She blinded me (with psions)!

......Can I sig this? :smallbiggrin:

The Oni
2013-12-21, 01:23 PM
......Can I sig this? :smallbiggrin:

Yes. Yes you can.

Talya
2013-12-21, 03:59 PM
You are aware that there isn't actually anything in the rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/nymph.htm) that requires the nymph to be nude in order to use her special attacks and qualities, right?


While true, the important thing is that there are no rules that require her to be clothed!

TheCountAlucard
2013-12-21, 04:26 PM
While true, the important thing is that there are no rules that require her to be clothed!

…says the creator of the Vow of Nudity. :smallwink:

Scow2
2013-12-22, 05:46 PM
Clothes are unnatural anyway. Why should the courts of summer and winter give a damn about humanity's trumped-up insecurities with their own bodies?

Talya
2013-12-23, 01:44 PM
…says the creator of the Vow of Nudity. :smallwink:

Exactly!

A nymph would be an awesome character to take the vow of nudity.

icefractal
2013-12-23, 03:22 PM
What was that trick? Footsteps of the Divine + Persistent, I believe? Anyway, with that, you could streak past the entire army, and back, in one round. Gives a whole new meaning to "The Flash".