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Deca4531
2013-12-18, 02:57 PM
I was reading through the requirements for the class and none of them specify it as a wizard only class. One thing that has me confused is that it requires you to take an additional forbidden school of magic and there is no sub description for a if you are a sorcerer. Are there any a updates that might clear this up?
Zanos
2013-12-18, 03:02 PM
Red Wizard requires the Tatoo Focus feat, which requires that you specialize in a school of magic, which only wizards can do.
Deca4531
2013-12-18, 06:16 PM
Red Wizard requires the Tatoo Focus feat, which requires that you specialize in a school of magic, which only wizards can do.

Could I just go wiz 1 then sorcerer and apply the circle bonuses to my sorcerer spells?
ahenobarbi
2013-12-18, 06:22 PM
Could I just go wiz 1 then sorcerer and apply the circle bonuses to my sorcerer spells?

Yes. Also you'd ban one more school of magic as wizard and could progress sorcerer casting.
Greenish
2013-12-18, 06:24 PM
Could I just go wiz 1 then sorcerer and apply the circle bonuses to my sorcerer spells?The metamagic effects must be added to prepared spells. CL boosting would work, though.
Seer_of_Heart
2013-12-18, 07:01 PM
Take the arcane preparation feat then.
AMFV
2013-12-18, 07:03 PM
You can get into Red Wizard of Thay if you somehow backconvert the Dragonlance Knight of the Thorn Prestige class, since it gives you the Divination specialization for free even if you're a sorcerer. It's not clear if that would be refluffable to where it might work, but provided you can get over the considerable fluff hurdle that would work.
PurpleSocks
2013-12-18, 07:19 PM
Purely fluff, but Thayans really hate spontaneous spell casters, like a lot so it makes absolutely no thematic sense for them to train a sorcerer to be one of them when they would usually be planning on how to kill them.
AMFV
2013-12-18, 07:25 PM
It would take considerable refluffing, although if you're not in FR it might be manageable.
rollforeigninit
2013-12-18, 07:34 PM
I may be wrong, but doesn't Inchantrix make you specialize even if you are a sorcerer? AFB
Thrice Dead Cat
2013-12-18, 07:49 PM
I may be wrong, but doesn't Inchantrix make you specialize even if you are a sorcerer? AFB

The 3.0 version made you an abjuration specialist, but the current 3.5 version simply has you forgo a school of magic as if you specialized without giving you said specialization, so, no.
Deca4531
2013-12-18, 09:09 PM
If I have a banned school dose it only apply to spells cast from my wizard spell pool? Would I still be aloud to know the banned spell as a socerer?
The Grue
2013-12-18, 09:13 PM
Yes. Also you'd ban one more school of magic as wizard and could progress sorcerer casting.

However, you would now be two levels behind in spell level progression rather than just one.
Big Fau
2013-12-19, 06:44 PM
If the source is allowed the Incanatrix from PGtF gives you a banned school of magic without requiring you to be a Wizard, and advances your casting, allowing you to enter Red Wizard without dipping into another base class.

That's probably the least powerful thing you can do with that PrC though.
AMFV
2013-12-19, 06:49 PM
If the source is allowed the Incanatrix from PGtF gives you a banned school of magic without requiring you to be a Wizard, and advances your casting, allowing you to enter Red Wizard without dipping into another base class.

That's probably the least powerful thing you can do with that PrC though.

But it doesn't make you a specialist and doesn't qualify you for Red Wizard...

The Thorn Knight is I think the only thing that really would.