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Somensjev
2013-12-29, 05:00 AM
is it possible to consistently get a 37 or higher on UMD checks? before level 5? :smallconfused:

i've been thinking of a character, and i want to see if this is possible, if not, i'll have to wait more levels

thank you for any and all replies :smallbiggrin:

Seffbasilisk
2013-12-29, 05:18 AM
Circlet of Persuasion brings it down to +15.

Warlock levels, means he can take a 10, which brings it to +6 of goal. Magic Device Attunement means you only have to make it once a day.

Masterwork bracers to help you hold it. +2

Now it just needs +4.

Eagle's Splendor raises it +2.

So 2 shy...if you had it magically be +5 to those checks...

Then it's be taking a 40.

Edit: Splash Marshall in the Warlock, and you can do it without a custom magic item, or a psicrystal.

Somensjev
2013-12-29, 05:21 AM
doesnt 5 ranks in spellcraft give a +2?

Yogibear41
2013-12-29, 05:47 AM
Only for UMD checks involving scrolls, 5 ranks in Decipher Script also gives a +2 on scrolls

Somensjev
2013-12-29, 06:06 AM
good enough for now, though i would like a way to get another +2 to all UMD instead of just scrolls

Azoth
2013-12-29, 06:21 AM
MagIc Blooded Azurin Warlock4/Marshal 1. Magic blooded is +0la template that gives +2 cha -2 wis and a few SLA's. Azurins are Humans that trade away the bonus skill points for a single point of essentia.

(azurin bonus)Skill Focus (UMD)
(1st level)Shape Soulmeld (Mage's Spectacles)
(3rd level) Pick one.


Take 10
Cha +5
Motivate Charisma +5
Mage's Spectacles (with 1 essentia) +6
Skill Focus +3
MW tool +2
Ranks +7

Total 38

Chronos
2013-12-29, 08:00 AM
37 sounds awfully specific-- Is there some task in particular you're trying to accomplish? Maybe we can figure out a way to bring that DC down.

How consistently do you require for "consistently"? Does that mean every time, 90% of the time, over half of the time?

Given that you're investing heavily in UMD anyway, have you considered using wands of skill-boosting spells? Guidance of the Avatar, for instance, would be a +20, which gets us over halfway there just by itself.

Somensjev
2013-12-29, 08:57 AM
Someone please tell me the check needed to cast a 9th level spell from a 17th level caster?

I believe my sleep deprived self has made a mistake somewhere?

Zweisteine
2013-12-29, 09:28 AM
UMD DC foot a scroll is 20+caster level.

So The DC for a ninth-level scroll is 37. If it's a scroll, you also can use the synergies mentioned above.

Somensjev
2013-12-29, 09:55 AM
I'm curious if I could reach the intended number if I wasn't casting scrolls

Also, how many feats and gold does getting a +whatever to UMD cost me?