Feedback on Summoner Build 3.5e

[TripperdeCleric]

Summoner:

Human:
#Arcane Disciple: (Time) #Improved Initiative

Focused Conjurer 1: #Arcane Disciple (Summoner)
#Scribe Scroll

ACF:
#Focused Specialist

ACF:
#Rapid Summoning

Focused Conjurer 2:

Focused Conjurer:3: #Spell Focus (Conjuring)

Master Conjurer 4: #Skill Focus (Spellcraft)

Master Conjurer 5: #Expanded Spellbook

Master Conjurer 6: #Extend Spell
#Greater Spell Focus

Master Conjurer 7: #Minor School Esoterica

Thaumaturgist 8: #Improved Ally

Thaumaturgist 9: #Mobile Spellcasting #Augment Summoning

Malconvoker 10: #Deceptive Summons #Unrestricted Conjuration

Thaumaturgist 11: #Extended Summoning

Thaumaturgist 12: #Arcane Disciple (Healing)
#Contingent Conjuration

Thaumaturgist 13: #Planar Cohort

Malconvoker 14: #Planar Binding

Malconvoker 15: #Imbued Summoning #Skill Focus (Bluff)

Malconvoker 16: #Deceptive Summons (Fury)

Malconvoker 17: #Fiendish Legion

Malconvoker 18: #Arcane Disciple (Luck)
#Deceitful Bargaining

Malconvoker 19: #Deceptive summons (Resistance)

Malconvoker 20: #Improved Calling

[Pluto!]

If you're losing a caster level to Malconvoker, you're probably going to want to hit its level 5 and 6 abilities as soon after that as possible - the rest of its features just don't do much to make up for that relative loss of power.

Imbued Summoning is bad. You can get that ability for around 3k gap with the Summoner's totem from Magic Item Compendium.

Arcane Disciple isn't great either - especially when most of the good spells are already on your class list like Summoner, Time or Luck domains.

Some strong alternative feats for a Summoner are things like Rashemi Elemental Summoning, Cloudy Conjuration or Summon Elemental.

[TripperdeCleric]

If you're losing a caster level to Malconvoker, you're probably going to want to hit its level 5 and 6 abilities as soon after that as possible - the rest of its features just don't do much to make up for that relative loss of power.

Imbued Summoning is bad. You can get that ability for around 3k gap with the Summoner's totem from Magic Item Compendium.

Arcane Disciple isn't great either - especially when most of the good spells are already on your class list like Summoner, Time or Luck domains.

Some strong alternative feats for a Summoner are things like Rashemi Elemental Summoning, Cloudy Conjuration or Summon Elemental.

Its the passive effects on time/luck that im aiming at..and the extra uses of spells.

Imbued summoning is free.


The level loss hurts yes, but the cohort seems to make up for that loss.

[Pluto!]

Its the passive effects on time/luck that im aiming at..and the extra uses of spells

Unfortunately, Arcane Disciple doesn't give either of those things. If you're house ruling otherwise, the feats will be great by all means.

Feat slots tend to be worth a lot more than a few thousand gp. Just trading that feat out for something like Quicken spell will be much stronger than a trinket that would cost a level 7 character's pocket change.

[TripperdeCleric]

Unfortunately, Arcane Disciple doesn't give either of those things. If you're house ruling otherwise, the feats will be great by all means.

Feat slots tend to be worth a lot more than a few thousand gp. Just trading that feat out for something like Quicken spell will be much stronger than a trinket that would cost a level 7 character's pocket change.

So lose time and luck for?

I believe I read that summoning domain gives you quicker access to planar ally