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Xuldarinar
2014-01-09, 02:23 PM
A simple question. Is there an official way, without actually playing their associated aberrations, to enter Savant Aboleth, Beholder Mage, or Illithid Savant?

Grod_The_Giant
2014-01-09, 02:39 PM
True Mind Switch is probably the best method, followed by Polymorph Any Object. That lets you start out as a "normal" race. Not sure if that's what you were looking for, though.

Gemini476
2014-01-09, 02:50 PM
Elan PC who's PaO into one of them should do the trick.

You need to figure out what the rules are for qualifying for PrCs, though - is it CW/CA style, where you lose the benefits if you lose the prerequisites? Or is it like it's in every other 3.5 book, where you keep your Beholder Mage casting even after you've PaO'd into an Illithid or something.

Xuldarinar
2014-01-09, 08:41 PM
True Mind Switch is probably the best method, followed by Polymorph Any Object. That lets you start out as a "normal" race. Not sure if that's what you were looking for, though.

That could work, but..


Elan PC who's PaO into one of them should do the trick.

You need to figure out what the rules are for qualifying for PrCs, though - is it CW/CA style, where you lose the benefits if you lose the prerequisites? Or is it like it's in every other 3.5 book, where you keep your Beholder Mage casting even after you've PaO'd into an Illithid or something.

That is an important point to consider. Beholder Mage depends on the plucking out of the beholder's eye, ritualistically. While there is no rule mentioned in the book or reference made, I don't think (all) benefits should be retained, given the circumstances. Savant Aboleth, similar boat but more likely to retain some of the PrC's benefits. Illithid Savant, I'd say likely they could retain acquired benefits from consuming brains but not necessarily the abilities from the PrC itself, but given that SS predates CW/CA...

Urpriest
2014-01-09, 09:57 PM
In a word, no. There isn't even an official way if you do play the relevant aberrations. D&D has several PrCs and the like with race requirements, but while it allows you to modify many elements that are naively aspects of your race (gaining and losing templates, switching bodies and minds, reincarnate), none of them specify how they affect your race. That includes playing a character of a given race in the first place. It's an undefined character attribute.