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ThatGuyOvaThere
2014-01-09, 05:58 PM
So I have just joined a campaign in which the optimization level that I am used to isn't allowed, and it is heavy rp. So I have decided to play as a hardcore chef. Now his chef is a warforged barbarian who rages anytime someone doesn't like his food. What do you guys think about that. But now on what this thread is about, I need a prestige class for a chef. Now I know there isn't a prestige class that i called "The Chef" but if there is any prestige class that makes since with my listed fluff please tell.
Thanks in advanced,
ThatGuyOvaThere

Chronos
2014-01-09, 06:32 PM
You could take Exemplar, and choose Craft: Cooking as one of your exemplified skills.

Kennisiou
2014-01-09, 06:39 PM
In general classes that focus on skills aren't usually focused on a single skill, but skills in general.

To be a better chef, exemplar with Craft: (cooking), Profession: (Chef), or Survival (depending on what skill rolls your DM is having you use to cook and gather ingredients). Beyond that, taking levels in marshal if you have good charisma is a great way to improve your skill usage, since it lets you take a minor aura of charisma to skills associated with that skill's key stat (wis for profession and survival, int for craft), or factotum. Marshal and exemplar are the classes that will have the most impact on your skill rolls and the least impact on anything else, so are probably your best bet.

Red Fel
2014-01-09, 08:11 PM
In general classes that focus on skills aren't usually focused on a single skill, but skills in general.

To be a better chef, exemplar with Craft: (cooking), Profession: (Chef), or Survival (depending on what skill rolls your DM is having you use to cook and gather ingredients). Beyond that, taking levels in marshal if you have good charisma is a great way to improve your skill usage, since it lets you take a minor aura of charisma to skills associated with that skill's key stat (wis for profession and survival, int for craft), or factotum. Marshal and exemplar are the classes that will have the most impact on your skill rolls and the least impact on anything else, so are probably your best bet.

Seconding Marshal, for a very simple reason: Have you ever observed the Chef de Cuisine in a kitchen? He is every inch the drill sergeant. Everything must be just so, sending the troops scurrying and barking orders, roaring with fury when he observes a spot on the silver, or an overcooked dumpling.

Now read the flavor (no pun intended) on the Marshal's auras. That's basically what he does. Here's the quote from the web excerpt (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b):

Activating an aura involves haranguing, ordering, directing, encouraging, cajoling, or calming allies. A marshal sizes up the enemy, allies, and the terrain, then gives allies the direction that they can use to do their best.
Those exact same mechanics can be applied easily in a kitchen. Just ask Gordon Ramsay.

Frankly, Marshal is a poor class, but in this case, I think it has just the flavor (pun intended this time) that you want.

Vhaidara
2014-01-09, 08:17 PM
On a side note, get five green star adepts as security and call it a five star restaurant.

malonkey1
2014-01-09, 08:35 PM
On a side note, get five green star adepts as security and call it a five star restaurant.

I like that. I like it a lot.

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Lans
2014-01-09, 09:44 PM
There is a chef prestige class in one of the rokugan books

ThatGuyOvaThere
2014-01-09, 10:35 PM
There is a chef prestige class in one of the rokugan books

Would you happen to know what book that is in?

Drachasor
2014-01-09, 11:26 PM
Hmm, I don't know. I'd think a caster does cooking better still. Think about having unseen servants, constructs, and so forth helping out in the kitchen. To say nothing of Prestidigitation for flavoring and Fabricate for feasts!

Hmm, though see if your DM is ok with a Lyre of Building being used to make food. That would be EPIC.

Kennisiou
2014-01-10, 12:22 AM
Frankly, Marshal is a poor class, but in this case, I think it has just the flavor (pun intended this time) that you want.

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. Marshal is a great class. If you take one level in it. It's probably one of the strongest one-level dips in the game, right up there with cloistered cleric (well, okay, not quite CC's three bonus feats in one level good, but still darn good).

nedz
2014-01-10, 06:58 AM
Anyone who can cast Heroes Feast.

Canine
2014-01-10, 07:55 AM
Would you happen to know what book that is in?

The Rokugan core book has the Artisan prestige class, which lets you select a cooking focus, but if you stay in the class for several levels you will be forced to branch out to other cultural pursuits (acting, dance, origami, etc) as well.

shadowpriest
2014-01-10, 07:58 AM
Hrm. Suddenly an image pops in my mind, One Piece's Sanji - who specialises in unarmed strikes, much like a monk :smallsmile:

Bigbeefie
2014-01-10, 12:55 PM
So I have decided to play as a hardcore chef. Now his chef is a warforged barbarian who rages anytime someone doesn't like his food. What do you guys think about that.


*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.

Red Fel
2014-01-10, 12:58 PM
*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.

Bender, the original Zinc Saucier, (a lesser title that comes with double prize money) would like a word with you.

And by "a word with," I mean "to bend." And by "to bend," I mean he would like you to bite his shiny metal...

As an aside, if I recall, Warforged are made from metal and wood. They technically have organic parts. And while they don't have to eat, I believe they are capable of it.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if a perverse member of House Cannith created an abnormal Forge for the express purpose of creating useful household servants, among those Warforged with taste buds.

Drachasor
2014-01-10, 12:59 PM
Really more of a Foodforged then.

Fax Celestis
2014-01-10, 01:01 PM
*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.

There's an app component for that.

yougi
2014-01-10, 01:02 PM
And even without taste buds, I can imagine a robot who would calculate the amount of spices needed in a meal for it to be pleasant to the taste buds of humanoids.

nedz
2014-01-10, 01:06 PM
*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.

I viewed this character concept as more of a Food Processor than a Chef. Maybe this warforged should be called Kenwood ?

Talderas
2014-01-10, 01:06 PM
*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.

It makes the idea all the more humorous. The warforged is utterly incapable of understanding tastes of meatbags and thus isn't really capable of preparing meals that meatbags will like, which means he rages all the time.

Bigbeefie
2014-01-10, 01:13 PM
Bender, the original Zinc Saucier, (a lesser title that comes with double prize money) would like a word with you.

And by "a word with," I mean "to bend." And by "to bend," I mean he would like you to bite his shiny metal...

It sounds as the OP was thinking of bender as well.

If you remember the deadly amounts of salt he used, was told he cant cook, in most episodes he steals or takes the ingredients he uses, or cheats to win contests of cooking skill. this all helps him overcome his no taste buds.



As an aside, if I recall, Warforged are made from metal and wood. They technically have organic parts. And while they don't have to eat, I believe they are capable of it. They can benefit from potions but where does the food go? I cant possibly see a warforged pooping it out.


Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if a perverse member of House Cannith created an abnormal Forge for the express purpose of creating useful household servants, among those Warforged with taste buds.

This would be a super rare event on a already RARE race. Warforged are rare enough and then adding all the more rarity on top of it seems far fetched and extremely unlikely.



But I have a DM and group who loves Eberron and wouldn't allow this travesty to go through creation. Both a sentient being wanting to be a chef who actually cares and feels based on his creation and the actual need of taste buds. Heck most warforged disdain "breathers" and their weaknesses....having to rely on food seems to be something they disdain.

Talionis
2014-01-10, 01:21 PM
Alchemical Savant in Magic of Ebberron can cast spells into potions. I would think you could use potions as dressings and soups.

Red Fel
2014-01-10, 02:34 PM
Heck most warforged disdain "breathers" and their weaknesses....having to rely on food seems to be something they disdain.

I've always disliked this view of constructs. It seems that too many interpretations deal with them disdaining the obviously inferior meatbags, or envying what it means to live, age, feel, and love.
Whatever happened to the constructs who just don't give a toot? Do you think Orcs go around saying "I wonder what it would be like to have pointy ears and live amongst the umbral verdance?" No, because their vocabulary is limited to "Me smash puny elf!" Do you think Halflings go around saying, "Hah, feeble tallfolk, don't even know the merits of being so low to the ground!" No, because they need a ladder just to reach the dinner table. Why do the Warforged have to care, on way or another, about these barbaric, irrational fleshsacks and their need to consume for sustenance?

Fax Celestis
2014-01-10, 02:58 PM
I viewed this character concept as more of a Food Processor than a Chef. Maybe this warforged should be called Kenwood ?

Kwii Zenardt.

ThatGuyOvaThere
2014-01-10, 04:10 PM
Hmm, I don't know. I'd think a caster does cooking better still. Think about having unseen servants, constructs, and so forth helping out in the kitchen. To say nothing of Prestidigitation for flavoring and Fabricate for feasts!

Hmm, though see if your DM is ok with a Lyre of Building being used to make food. That would be EPIC.
My character views those that use magic to create their food as cheaters. Originally I was going to play as a spell caster, but then the other players informed me that we need a tank and I was already going to go with a chef who gets mad when people dislike his food.


It sounds as the OP was thinking of bender as well.

If you remember the deadly amounts of salt he used, was told he cant cook, in most episodes he steals or takes the ingredients he uses, or cheats to win contests of cooking skill. this all helps him overcome his no taste buds.
I actually wasn't thinking about bender at all, for my character is an good chef, ust as bender is when he comes in third place with his mammoth sausage.


*slams head against wall in irritation.*

Can you justify a WARFORGED with taste buds? Something that doesn't have to eat like a human/living race? Where the hell did he come by the skills to cook without being able to taste the food?

As a Chef in real life I will say someone without a sense of taste can not make it as even a cook let alone a chef.

You asked what us guys think about it and I think its stupid beyond all belief to think a warforged barbarian chef is even remotely a good or amusing Idea since even in a magical world its hard to wrap your head around the idea of this.
Thank you for actually responding to the "what you think" portion, but I think it is an extremely amusing idea. I get that as a chef and a lover of Ebberon this ruffles your feathers, but it is good for roleplay. Also in a magical world you don't have to understand it, it just is.

nedz
2014-01-10, 05:37 PM
Kwii Zenardt.

I don't get the reference :smallconfused:

This did burn out two popular search engines too.

Vhaidara
2014-01-10, 05:39 PM
I believe it is Cuisinart, a food processor.

nedz
2014-01-10, 06:09 PM
Ah, like Molly No ?