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gurgleflep
2014-01-10, 06:03 PM
Outside of Unearthed Arcana, where can I find some variant orcs? I know where to find countless elves, dwarves, and halflings but orcs seem to be lacking.
All sources available - homebrew, magazine, WotC, third party, pictures of orcs in leprechaun clothes... - I want some variety! :smallbiggrin:

Flickerdart
2014-01-10, 06:07 PM
There's a Frostblood Orc and Half-orc in Dragon Magic, and a Scablands Half-orc in Sandstorm. That's it though, at least according to the master player race list (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-general/threads/1078216).

Ravens_cry
2014-01-10, 06:09 PM
You could also easily import over the changes for the half-orc from UA over to orcs.

Palanan
2014-01-10, 06:23 PM
Races of Faerūn has a short chapter on "Half-Orcs and Orcs," which goes into detail on several different orc-races, including the gray orcs and orogs. Might be worth a look.

gurgleflep
2014-01-10, 06:29 PM
There's a Frostblood Orc and Half-orc in Dragon Magic, and a Scablands Half-orc in Sandstorm. That's it though, at least according to the master player race list (http://community.wizards.com/forum/previous-editions-general/threads/1078216).

These all seem to be 0RHD/LA races, but thanks :smallsmile: Very helpful.


You could also easily import over the changes for the half-orc from UA over to orcs.

Good point, all were.. pretty obvious as to what they did :smalltongue: Said it right there! Thanks.


Races of Faerūn has a short chapter on "Half-Orcs and Orcs," which goes into detail on several different orc-races, including the gray orcs and orogs. Might be worth a look.

I've not heard of either so I'll take a look now, thank you. Orog sounds like some ogre thing :smalleek:

Palanan
2014-01-10, 06:41 PM
You are right to eek at the orogs. :smalltongue:

Underdark orcs, fairly boss on the scale of orcdom. Enjoy!

Flickerdart
2014-01-10, 06:52 PM
These all seem to be 0RHD/LA races, but thanks :smallsmile: Very helpful.
Oh right, there are some LA'd ones! Races of Faerun has a +1 LA Gray Orc, and there might be others.

gurgleflep
2014-01-10, 07:59 PM
You are right to eek at the orogs. :smalltongue:

Underdark orcs, fairly boss on the scale of orcdom. Enjoy!

Boss? Oh yeah :smallcool: I'll enjoy this thoroughly.


Oh right, there are some LA'd ones! Races of Faerun has a +1 LA Gray Orc, and there might be others.

Orog is one that was mentioned, same book too.

And I seem to recall something called an ogrillon - it's an orc/ogre hybrid. Anybody know where that is?

Thurbane
2014-01-10, 08:30 PM
You can find basic stats for the Gray Orc and Orog in my sig under "LA +1 & LA +2 Player Race List".

Ogrillons existed in 1E and 2E (1st appearance was in the 1E Fiend Folio, from memory). I don't think any official 3.X version exists. There may have been a user made conversion at the Enword Creature Catalog, but sadly it seems to be permanently down. You can see a Pathfinder version here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/ogrillon).

Enworld Creature Catalog is up! :smallbiggrin: User made Ogrillon 3.0 conversion here (http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/cc/converted/humanoid/ogrillon.htm).

gurgleflep
2014-01-10, 08:37 PM
You can find basic stats for the Gray Orc and Orog in my sig under "LA +1 & LA +2 Player Race List".

Ogrillons existed in 1E and 2E (1st appearance was in the 1E Fiend Folio, from memory). I don't think any official 3.X version exists. There may have been a user made conversion at the Enword Creature Catalog, but sadly it seems to be permanently down. You can see a Pathfinder version here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/ogrillon).

Enworld Creature Catalog is up! :smallbiggrin: User made Ogrillon 3.0 conversion here (http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/cc/converted/humanoid/ogrillon.htm).

Thank you! Love me some ogrillon... and thanks to the Pathfinder link I saw Frog God and didd a "I shoulda had a V8!" forhead slap - Tome of Horrors had an Ogrillon in it! :smallbiggrin:

Thurbane
2014-01-10, 08:39 PM
Thank you! Love me some ogrillon... and thanks to the Pathfinder link I saw Frog God and didd a "I shoulda had a V8!" forhead slap - Tome of Horrors had an Ogrillon in it! :smallbiggrin:
Ah yes, good point. I love the Tome of Horrors, it's a great source of many creatures that didn't otherwise get 3.X updates from earlier editions. :smallwink:

Chadamantium
2014-01-10, 08:48 PM
You can find basic stats for the Gray Orc and Orog in my sig under "LA +1 & LA +2 Player Race List".

Ogrillons existed in 1E and 2E (1st appearance was in the 1E Fiend Folio, from memory). I don't think any official 3.X version exists. There may have been a user made conversion at the Enword Creature Catalog, but sadly it seems to be permanently down. You can see a Pathfinder version here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/ogrillon).

Enworld Creature Catalog is up! :smallbiggrin: User made Ogrillon 3.0 conversion here (http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/cc/converted/humanoid/ogrillon.htm).

Is there anything people can't find in your sig?

Darrin
2014-01-10, 08:49 PM
Smartypants orcs: Sharakim in Races of Destiny.

gurgleflep
2014-01-10, 09:00 PM
Ah yes, good point. I love the Tome of Horrors, it's a great source of many creatures that didn't otherwise get 3.X updates from earlier editions. :smallwink:

It is a good series, yes :smallsmile: Only one I've not gotten to look at was the forth and most recent one, but I hope it'll be like the first three: awesome :smallcool:


Smartypants orcs: Sharakim in Races of Destiny.

I like the sharakim, but those aren't orcs per se. They're humans that got cursed to look like that.. they're still awesome though :smalltongue:

The Insanity
2014-01-10, 10:05 PM
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/orcs

JaronK
2014-01-10, 11:01 PM
There are Black Orcs from Fury in the Waste. They're spell created, and kinda weird.

JaronK

gurgleflep
2014-01-11, 12:22 AM
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/humanoids/orcs

Eep :smalleek: Blood, black, and ghost-faced orcs? My players will hate me! Thank you :smallbiggrin:


There are Black Orcs from Fury in the Waste. They're spell created, and kinda weird.

JaronK

I've not heard of it but the name alone has caught my interest. Sadly, my google-fu fails me :smallfrown: could you tell me which setting it's in please?

Edit: oh, and if anybody knows of orc hybrids (orc/drow, orc/elf, orc/dwarf, etc.), I'd be interested in those too :smallsmile:

JaronK
2014-01-11, 03:05 AM
It's Kalamar, which is a less used setting.

JaronK

Bullet06320
2014-01-11, 04:20 AM
mongoose publishings The Slayer's Guide To Orcs could be helpful

gurgleflep
2014-01-11, 05:13 AM
It's Kalamar, which is a less used setting.

JaronK

Seeing as this is the first time I've heard of it, I believe ya! :smalltongue:


mongoose publishings The Slayer's Guide To Orcs could be helpful

That sounds like it'd be more about killing them than having additional races, but I'll take a look for it. Thanks :smallsmile:

LOTRfan
2014-01-11, 07:48 AM
While we're on the subject of books about Orcs, Classic Monsters Revisited has a good section of orcs.

Also, Bhu's Orc and Goblinoid Resource thread might be a good place for you to look.

Chester
2014-01-11, 07:49 AM
Sharakim can be found in Races of Destiny.

They're friendly orcs, though.

Novawurmson
2014-01-11, 09:47 AM
If you're open to Pathfinder, the Advanced Race Guide has a bunch of alternate racial features, feats, race-specific archetypes (including the awesome Scarred Witch Doctor), and such for orcs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-orc). The half-orc (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/half-orc) stuff might be useful.

ShurikVch
2014-01-11, 03:54 PM
In Races of Faerūn there are also Mountain Orc and
Tanarukk (planetouched orc)
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rof_gallery/49758.jpg

Fury in the Wastelands: The Orcs of Tellene (Kingdoms of Kalamar) have also Brown Orc and White Orc

Scro (http://www.lomion.de/cmm/scro.php) from Spelljammer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelljammer) were updated to 3.5 in Dragon #339 (pg. 31)

Manual of Monsters (Warcraft the RPG) have Tainted Orc

Crossbreeds

Races of the Dragon mentioned Angriz Ulhargix (half-blue dragon half-orc wizard)

Kingdoms of Kalamar:
Strength and Honor: The Mighty Hobgoblins of Tellene - Uk-karg (orc/hobgoblin)
Friend & Foe: The Elves and Bugbears of Tellene & Dangerous Denizens: The Monsters of Tellene - Tel-Amhothlan (orc/elf)

Greyhawk:
Living Greyhawk Journal #3 - Losel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losel) (orc/baboon) http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123182621/greyhawk/it/images/1/12/Losel_LGJ.jpg

Dragon #313 used half-orc as base creature for example of Gheden template. :smalleek::smallyuk:

Other templates:
Kauvra the half-orc vampire barbarian from Book of Vile Darkness

Blooded One (Unapproachable East) used orc as example creature http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ue_gallery/49891.jpg

Monster Manual V as one of examples of god-blooded creatures, show as Nozgūg, the Gruumsh-blooded orc http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM5_Gallery/106302.jpg

Monster Manual IV have Orc Plague Speaker (unholy scion orc cleric of Yurtrus)

Orcish PrCs:
Blessed of Gruumsh (Dragon Compendium)
Battle Howler of Gruumsh (Dr#311, p.69) Preview (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/prestige2.pl?class=Battle_Howler_of_Gruumsh)
Eye of Gruumsh (Complete Warrior) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cw_ag/75408.jpg
Fiend Binder (Dr#292, p.55) Preview (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/prestige2.pl?class=Fiend_Binder)
Menacing Brute (Races of Destiny) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rod_gallery/86319.jpg
Orc Blademaster (Dr#299, p.106) Preview (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/prestige2.pl?class=Orc_Blademaster) - yes, from Warcraft III
Orc Scout (Silver Marches)
Orc Warlord (Races of Faerūn) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rof_gallery/49741.jpg

Not orc-exclusive classes:
Animal Lord http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cx_gallery/86351.jpg
Kozakh, half-orc barbarian/apelord
Bloodhound http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cx_gallery/86353.jpg
Ulfur, half-orc scout/fighter/bloodhound
Nightsong Enforcer http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cx_gallery/86362.jpg
Karsta Longfist half-orc monk/nightsong enforcer
Pious Templar http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cd_gallery/81351.jpg
Graaghya, half-orc fighter/pious templar of Gruumsh
Legacy Champion http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wl_gallery/90315.jpg
Marrush Scarhand, Legacy Champion of Guurgal (half-orc fighter/legacy champion
Duraak’ash (from Dragonmarked) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/Dragonmarked_Gallery/101358.jpg
Sul’aashta Steelbane, half-orc ranger/duraak’ash
Thief of Life http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/foe_gallery/99899.jpg
Janilya the Fearless, half-orc rogue/barbarian/thief of life
Argent Fist http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/foe_gallery/99897.jpg
Brother Micah the Wolf-Hammer, half-orc monk/paladin/argent fist
Frostrager http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/fb_gallery/83533.jpg
Korrek Neversleep, Half-orc barbarian/frostrager
Death's Chosen http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/libris_gallery/84713.jpg
Larrak the Death’s Chosen, half-orc fighter/death’s chosen
Cipher Adept http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/planar_gallery/82517.jpg
Tarhorn, half-orc barbarian/cipher adept
Survivor http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ss_gallery/49218.jpg
Dench the Bull, orc Fighter/Survivor
Shadow Sun Ninja http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/tob_gallery/99696.jpg
Doomveil, half-orc monk/Shadow Sun ninja
Ravager http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/cw_ag/75423.jpg
Narrik Weepingscar, Half-orc barbarian/ravager

Mentioned, but without image:
Zyera: Female half-orc ex-monk 4/fighter 2/ravager 4 (Complete Warrior)
Kursāk the Marauder: orc totemist 2/barbarian 4/totem rager 2 (Magic Of Incarnum)


Zargath Human-Bane (orc rogue) https://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/conversion_ee_1.jpg
Doucral of the Web (Female half-orc barbarian) http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/Cityscape_Gallery/101105.jpg
A bit more pictures: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm4_gallery/98706.jpg
Orc berserker, war howler,battle priest,and half-orc infiltrator
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/roe_gallery/88223.jpg
A trio of orcs battle to rescue a gnome from the clutches of an otyugh
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/tob_gallery/99678.jpg
A half-orc warblade initiates a finishing move and rids the world of a fiendish foe
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/tob_gallery/99714.jpg

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rod_gallery/86288.jpg
Half-Orc Wardance
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rod_gallery/86289.jpg
Half-Orc Bouncer
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rod_gallery/86294.jpg
Half-Orc Fighter

Rhynn
2014-01-11, 04:35 PM
Orcs of the Iron Principalities (http://fictivefantasies.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/orcs-of-the-iron-principalities/). Nevermind variant abilities, that's the best orc variants... :smallamused: (Of course, many of the results may imply variant abilities!)

gurgleflep
2014-01-11, 05:37 PM
While we're on the subject of books about Orcs, Classic Monsters Revisited has a good section of orcs.

Also, Bhu's Orc and Goblinoid Resource thread might be a good place for you to look.


Bhu's got some good stuff in that thread, thanks for bringing it up. I'd completely overlooked it :smallfrown:


Sharakim can be found in Races of Destiny.

They're friendly orcs, though.

They've been mentioned already but thanks :smallsmile:


If you're open to Pathfinder, the Advanced Race Guide has a bunch of alternate racial features, feats, race-specific archetypes (including the awesome Scarred Witch Doctor), and such for orcs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-orc). The half-orc (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/half-orc) stuff might be useful.

I use 3.5 but I bring in stuff from PF from time to time so this is awesome :smallcool: Thank you.


Whole lotta stuff! :eek:

E-gads, you're on a roll, every time I tried replying you'd post something new :smallbiggrin: Thanks!


Orcs of the Iron Principalities (http://fictivefantasies.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/orcs-of-the-iron-principalities/). Nevermind variant abilities, that's the best orc variants... :smallamused: (Of course, many of the results may imply variant abilities!)

I don't understand a fair portion of this but "Blue is lucky" and "Red goes faster" made me laugh :smalltongue:

ShurikVch
2014-01-11, 05:47 PM
E-gads, you're on a roll, every time I tried replying you'd post something new :smallbiggrin: Thanks!
You are welcome! :smallsmile:

Offtopic: time ago You liked my answers in thread "Can constructs be undead? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294651)"
Are you used something of them?
If there was any interesting moments, can You write me about it?
I very like to read about such stuff!

animewatcha
2014-01-11, 05:50 PM
There was an orc one in dragon mag that tried to put stats to warcraft 3 races.

gurgleflep
2014-01-11, 06:12 PM
You are welcome! :smallsmile:

Offtopic: time ago You liked my answers in thread "Can constructs be undead? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294651)"
Are you used something of them?
If there was any interesting moments, can You write me about it?
I very like to read about such stuff!

That campaign fell through, sadly :smallfrown: My two primary players at the time went were having marital problems and kept turning every small feud in-game to a feud between the two of them. I do intend to use some of the suggestions for a campaign I'm currently planning - as of now I'm not entirely sure which ones.


There was an orc one in dragon mag that tried to put stats to warcraft 3 races.

Any clue (rough estimate's work too) as to which issue it's in?

Darrin
2014-01-11, 06:31 PM
Any clue (rough estimate's work too) as to which issue it's in?

Dragon #320 p. 82, Silicon Sorcery, "Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, Racial Transformations". However, orcs are not mentioned in the article.

animewatcha
2014-01-11, 06:35 PM
I had remembered wrong. Though, the beginning fluff had suggestions for takes on races. Like, 'due to closeness with gods or whatever', orc became elf-statted and elfs become orc-statted.

Palanan
2014-01-11, 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by ShurikVch
In Races of Faerūn there [is] also [the] Mountain Orc....

It's worth noting that what they call "mountain orc" is actually the standard orc as presented in the Monster Manual, so strictly speaking it's not a variant. The only differences are a couple specific weapon proficiencies, and the setting-specific culture presented in Races of Faerūn.