Gaining Miss Chance without Items

[GhengisConrad]

Okay, displacement cloak or whatever, 50% miss chance... this is pretty good no?

I'm wondering, what's out there to gain a kind of 'baked in' miss chance?

Umbral Diciple can get you a 40% miss chance by level 20 IIRC.

What else?

[Keld Denar]

Shadowcraft Mage and Swiftblade can get 40-45%.

Anyone can get 20% with Open Lesser Chakra(Shoulders) + Shape Soulmeld(Displacer Mantle).

[Know(Nothing)]

You can cast the No Light cantrip from BoVD and be a race that has darkvision. If you play with PF rules on cantrips you can pop off as many as you want. Fantastic low-level battlefield control, against non-darkvision things anyway.

[Thurbane]

The Cloak Dance feat can get you 20% miss chance by using a move action.

[Kazyan]

The Cloak Dance feat can get you 20% miss chance by using a move action.

Shrouded Dance does the same thing as a skill trick.

[Lans]

In the truename section there is a dodge add on that gives a 50% miss chance

[Thurbane]

Shrouded Dance does the same thing as a skill trick.
Good point.

But the skill trick has a couple of drawbacks: under normal circumstances, a skill trick can only be used once per encounter. It also requires a DC 20 Hide check. The feat works automatically, and can be used every round. Additionally, as a full round action the feat can give total concealment.

But feats are precious, so the skill trick is a good alternative.

[GhengisConrad]

Well, since miss chances don't stack; aren't you better off taking the biggest single number you can find?

i.e. umbral deciple for 3 dips. Sounds pretty powerful;

although I'd like to know more about this dodge in the truename section...

[SinsI]

Some monsters have unlimited Mirror Image at will, so if you manage to acquire that ability of theirs, you can get a miss chance of 7/8 that stacks with anything else you have.

[Piggy Knowles]

You have total concealment (50%) against anything that can't see you. Invisibility, hiding, fog clouds, etc. all work here.

Combine the Umbral Disciple ability with the Incandescent Champion's incarnum overload ability to get 100% concealment, but only for three rounds per day.

[GhengisConrad]

And is there a 3 level dip (or less) that gives you persistent invisibility or concealment equal to or greater than umbral deciple?

[questionmark693]

There's a shadow hand stance in ToB that gives you 20% if you move during the round.

[Snowbluff]

Shadowcraft Mage and Swiftblade can get 40-45%.


50% versus attacks, and then 50% versus targeted spells for swiftblade. :smallbiggrin: