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FullmetalGamer
2014-01-12, 04:05 AM
Hello my friends at the playground.
I was curious about this type of build and needed further input.

The race is the Leprechaun seen in another thread: The race here (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/fey/leprechaun).

The Magus (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus) and the Staff (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo---magus-archetypes/staff-magus) Archetype seem to fit the theme of the creature pretty well.

But its a Gestalt idea just like there but what class or classes would go with the Leprechaun build idea? Maybe a Bard or something?

avr
2014-01-12, 06:29 AM
Depends what theme you're going with. Psions make the best tricksters simply because their powers can easily be made to lack components (Bards are surprisingly bad at this.) If you want to beat people up with a stick on the other hand you want to gestalt magus with some full BAB class, maybe Ranger with the Trapper archetype to have a little on the trickster side. If you want to follow up on the skills Rogue wouldn't be impossible in the gestalt.

What do you see when you look at that Leprechaun entry?

FullmetalGamer
2014-01-12, 12:36 PM
I see the trickster being fun loving, drinking lots, and loving to play jokes and tricks on people. In combat he weaves magic to manipulate and control the battle field.

FullmetalGamer
2014-01-12, 01:48 PM
I was thinking a Magus//Sorcerer build due to board study allowing the Sorcerer spells to be used with the magus spell slots and so forth. But I am not sure if that would fit my desired theme.

Sorcerers would be great because of the wide array of their spell list and how to choose to make them fit that theme but I am not sure where to go from there.

A straight Magus 20//Sorcerer 20 would be good but what PrCs should I look at? Should I drop Magus after 6th level and try a different class or should I go straight?

avr
2014-01-12, 09:48 PM
A leprechaun's CR 2 so in a PF gestalt you'd probably need to devote a couple of levels on at least one side to paying for that. If we assume it's just one side then you can take the magical knack trait to keep your caster level up at least.

If you want to control the battlefield while being able to hit someone occasionally it would be hard to argue with Leprechaun 2/Magus 18//Wizard 20. If you're taking one Int-based caster class anyway it's hard to see what the Cha-based caster has for you especially. If you really want a PrC you might get veiled illusionist (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/s-z/veiled-illusionist) on the wizard side but it's not necessary.

FullmetalGamer
2014-01-12, 10:55 PM
CR 1 is same as class level so it would be Leprechaun 1. But since we are all gonna be using CR 1 min the DM says we can ignore it as our campaign is already gestalt he is gonna be throwing encounters already a few levels higher at us.

So it would be CR 3 (Two CR 1 templates)/Magus 17//Wizard 5/Veiled Illusionist 10/Mage of the Arcane Order 5?
I agree the Cha is off but Leprechauns are charming little buggers.

avr
2014-01-13, 02:37 AM
In PF there may be some value in taking the base wizard class up to level 8 at some point. Most of the specialist variants have something which kicks in then; undispellable Su abilities actually matter more at high level.

Mage of the Arcane Order is a 3.5 PrC but not PF, check with your DM before using it; some other PF PrCs with are full casting are Genie Binder and Cyphermage

FullmetalGamer
2014-01-13, 02:43 AM
Do you have suggestions for the wizard archetype that would fit best with this theme?

Well this is 3.P which means 3.5 is used, just slightly modified.