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GhengisConrad
2014-01-12, 10:53 PM
Challange Rating +5, Level Adjustment, 0?

I must be missing something.

I mean, I know Dragon Magazine is unbalanced, but this is pretty sick, no?

OldTrees1
2014-01-12, 11:43 PM
If you do not see "LA +0" then it is not LA+0.

GhengisConrad
2014-01-12, 11:53 PM
ah, I was looking at a secondary source.

Is this like the Unseelee Fey or whatever thing, where its really level adjustment -- and not meant to be played? Is that whats happening here?

GhengisConrad
2014-01-12, 11:57 PM
myeah, actually, just looked at the primary source.

Challenge Rating +1, Challenge Rating +5 so... myeah....

OldTrees1
2014-01-12, 11:59 PM
I double checked the source:
CR: +1
LA: +5

However it looks almost strictly worse than a Ghost 3 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040117a)

CyberThread
2014-01-13, 12:01 AM
but the dog jokes... think of the DOG jokes!



oooo won't anypony help? oooo the ponymanity

Mithril Leaf
2014-01-13, 12:08 AM
If you do not see "LA +0" then it is not LA+0.

You're wrong here actually, as a template only modifies things that are stated in the template.

In reading a templates. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#templates)

OldTrees1
2014-01-13, 12:11 AM
You're wrong here actually, as a template only modifies things that are stated in the template.

In reading a templates. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#templates)

That only holds true for authors that remember to follow that convention. 3.0 and Dragon Magazine are notable exceptions in that they tend to forget that convention.

GhengisConrad
2014-01-13, 12:14 AM
However it looks almost strictly worse than a Ghost 3 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040117a)

I like having a constitution score.

I'm obsessed with stealthy melee builds.

Etheral is best way to gain hide from Level 3 findable senses?

OldTrees1
2014-01-13, 12:19 AM
I like having a constitution score.

I'm obsessed with stealthy melee builds.

Etheral is best way to gain hide from Level 3 findable senses?

In general you should not need to hide from Lvl 3 senses unless your DM decides to use them. IF your DM decides to use them then seek the appropriate counter.

Warning: Half Undead are seen by Lifesense.

GhengisConrad
2014-01-13, 12:28 AM
In general you should not need to hide from Lvl 3 senses unless your DM decides to use them. IF your DM decides to use them then seek the appropriate counter.

Warning: Half Undead are seen by Lifesense.

I like how you are able to follow my random staggering steps and lines of reasoning.

It is appreciated.

OldTrees1
2014-01-13, 12:33 AM
I like how you are able to follow my random staggering steps and lines of reasoning.

It is appreciated.

You're welcome.