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DaggerPen
2014-01-12, 11:17 PM
Restarted from this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320380) thread with permission so as to allow a maintained summary list in the first few posts.
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DaggerPen
2014-01-12, 11:18 PM
Summary of the Stick
1. In which editions are upgraded. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html)
2. The Order first splits the party, a la a gym class softball game. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0002.html)
3. The Order fails some spot checks, and Blackwing first appears. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0003.html)
4. A stupid ogre rolls sense motive with bardic assistance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0004.html)
5. The party reunites, and more spot checks are failed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0005.html)
6. Durkon cures wounds, and Elan finds some free swords. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0006.html)
7. Durkon has some difficulties with ThorPrayer ® (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0007.html)
8. Elan gets a potion, and Haley bluffs Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0008.html)
9. The Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity is introduced. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0009.html)
10. V puts goblins to sleep. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0010.html)
11. Roy decides it's best not to dwell on Belkar's immunity to Unholy Blight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html)
12. It's time to go up a level. And down a level. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html)
13. Elan summons plot exposition. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html)
14. Roy pulls an all-nighter for the sake of the team. His wildly unreliable team. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0014.html)
15. The ghost of Roy's father makes an ominous prophecy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0015.html)
16. Roy and V talk, listen checks are failed, and Durkon REALLY hates undead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0016.html)
17. Trigak first appears and rapiers are sundered. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0017.html)
18. Haley's second Sneak Attack is even more surprising than the first. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0018.html)
19. Elan's illusion fails due to Trigak's committed relationship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0019.html)
20. Spiked tentacles forcefully intrude. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0020.html)
21. Belkar kills Trigak and prophecies are mangled. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0021.html)
22. Roy works with what he's given and convinces Belkar to track Trigak. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0022.html)
23. The Monster In the Darkness wishes to get out of the darkness. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0023.html)
24. Durkon's heavy armor makes stealth difficult. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0024.html)
25. Elan is naked invisible! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0025.html)
26. Roy tries to talk Elan into his clothes before Haley returns. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0026.html)
27. Durkon agrees to cast Cat's Grace if Elan dresses. Shame it's a touch spell. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0027.html)
28. Haley makes a variety of innuendos about Elan's rapier before going to see what 18 charisma is worth "under the hood." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0028.html)
29. Haley finds no treasure but for Elan's rapier. Good thing, too, since her bag's all full with feminine products anyway. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0029.html)
30. Elan finds a secret door, and a mind - er, squid thingy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0030.html)
31. The squid thingy debates the relative tastiness of the Orders' brains. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0031.html)
32. Story content is removed due to trademark reasons. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0032.html)
33. The Order answers letters, and more questions than answers are raised regarding doilies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0033.html)
34. Durkon's lacking arithmetical abilities impede his battle efficacy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0034.html)
35. Haley takes ten on trap searching, and has a wardrobe malfunction. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0035.html)
36. Haley clarifies the difference between there BEING traps and her FINDING traps. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0036.html)
37. Xykon's viewing experience is interrupted by some labor disputes with the resident ogres. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0037.html)
38. Elan and Belkar vent some frustrations using markers and a paralyzed Roy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0038.html)
39. Eugene Greenhilt appears to tell Roy that he got the prophecy all wrong, then heads back to the afterlife with his date. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0039.html)
40. Thor cannot multitask between Durkon's spell preparation and saving a village. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0040.html)
41. Elan's attempt to aid V's concentration has the opposite effect; shame he got "accidentally" frozen. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0041.html)
42. If Belkar kills alone in a dungeon, and the Order isn't there to see it, does he still get experience? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0042.html)
43. The Linear Guild first appears. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0043.html)
44. The Linear Guild counterparts introduce themselves, and Drizzt jokes are made. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0044.html)
45. The Order considers teaming up with the Linear Guld; Haley is concerned about having to further split the loot. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0045.html)
46. Nale introduces the Talisman of Dorukan, then monologues. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0046.html)
47. The combined forces of the Order and Linear guild split into groups to hit up the sigils; Xykon watches it all via picture in picture. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0047.html)
48. Belkar repeatedly leaves Yik-Yik's threatened area repeatedly. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0048.html)
49. V attempts to trade Z for a houseruled in Fly spell, to no avail. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0049.html)
50. The Semi-Secret Origin of Elan and Nale! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0050.html)
51. Thog and Talky-Man have an adventure with non-traditional panel layouts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0051.html)
52. Durkon and Hilgya hit it off, aided by Durkon's lacking Knowledge: Religion abilities. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0052.html)
53. Celia gets stoned. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0053.html)
54. Elan turns down Nale's offer to join his team. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0054.html)
55. The groups move into the pit of non-updated monsters, including the flumphs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0055.html)
56. Nale's sudden but inevitable betrayal. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0056.html)
57. The Linear Guild leave the Order in the cold. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0057.html)
58. Owl's Wisdom, Halfling's Rage. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0058.html)
59. Some prophecy about goats, I think? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0059.html)
60. One dwarf down; the rest to go. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0060.html)
61. Elan denies the psychopathic egomaniac. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0061.html)
62. Haley doesn't know which metal hurts Sabine; Manyshot saves the day. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0062.html)
63. Ground floor: dual-wielding rangers, small knives, kobold hats. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0063.html)
64. With Nale's aid, Roy lives out an old fantasy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0064.html)
65. Lawyers come to the rescue. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0065.html)
66. One of Elan's illusions finally works, in an unexpected way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0066.html)
67. Nale runs afoul of karma. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0067.html)
68. Perhaps best to stick to the usual angel and devil. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0068.html)
69. Stone Celia trumps stone ceiling. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0069.html)
70. Nale has an electrifying conversation with Celia. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0070.html)
71. Celia tells all about her job history. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0071.html)
72. "No man left behind" does not apply to dwarves. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0072.html)
73. "What Would Thor Do?" is not as helpful as Durkon would like. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html)
74. Team Cleric spells bad news for the flumphs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0074.html)
75. Roy realizes the perils of being the only responsible one in the party. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0075.html)
76. Hot Durkon-Hilgya hand-holding action. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0076.html)
77. Team Cleric convinces a monster to order in. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0077.html)
78. Eugene questions Roy's class decisions. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0078.html)
79. Hilgya and Durkon bring their feuding gods together through shared experience. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0079.html)
80. Banjo descends from the heavens! Or ascends from Elan's pocket, whatever. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0080.html)
81. V's staunch loyalty to the elven gods can be swayed by no less than the finest espresso. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0081.html)
82. MitD and Redcloak learn about the birds and the dwarves. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0082.html)
83. Hilgya exposits her backstory. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0083.html)
84. Durkon is forced to choose between love and duty. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0084.html)
85. Durkon rejoins the party, to the detriment of the First Church of Banjo. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0085.html)
86. The Order fulfill a pressing biological need. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0086.html)
87. The Order learn surprising information about V's biology. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html)
88. V learns why one should never buy discount invisibility spheres. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0088.html)
89. The Order experiences directional confusion, to the benefit of the artist. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0089.html)
90. ELAN GOT A FOUR! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0090.html)
91. Perhaps Fruit Pie the Wizard would have done better. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0091.html)
92. V's preparation of a signature spell pays off. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0092.html)
93. Teenage rebellion saves the Order. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0093.html)
94. While walking through the dungeon, the Order strategize for the fight with Xykon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0094.html)
95. Redcloak speaks with the dead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0095.html)
96. The MitD hears much about a Gate of some sort. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0096.html)
97. Xykon reveals the humorless side of lichdom. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0097.html)
98. Belkar's fine halfling chef senses cast light on a trap. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0098.html)
99. While the Order seal in some flavor, Haley is kidnapped. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0099.html)
100. Haley escapes, and laments the lack of something special for the 100th strip. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0100.html)
101: Elan intimidates a goblin teenager with the threat of being considered a jerk. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0101.html)
102: Roy has boobies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0102.html)
103: The MitD tries, unsuccessfully, to come up with a terrifying threat. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0103.html)
104: Both the OotS and Team Evil prepare for battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0104.html)
105: Admit it, Roy; you always wanted to say "Charge". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0105.html)
106: Xykon has a lot of ranks in Reverse Psychology. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0106.html)
107: Belkar screws up protecting the spellcasters. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0107.html)
108: Haley tumbles into the fray. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0108.html)
109: Really, Haley should have kissed Elan just then, and we all know it. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0109.html)
110: Xykon has killed a lot of Fyrons in Cliffport, it seems. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0110.html)
111: The oxymoronic giant dwarf makes his first appearance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0111.html)
112: Shatter! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html)
113: Roy becomes catatonic. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html)
114: YOU! BROKE! MY! SWORD! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html)
115: Skeleton dust is not good for Elan's eyes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0115.html)
116: Time for Haley's favorite part: the looting! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0116.html)
117: The villains beat a hasty retreat. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0117.html)
118: Never leave Elan unsupervised around self-destruct runes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0118.html)
119: You know, in real life, explosions don't launch people like that. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0119.html)
120: Story arc wrap-up, and a good panel for the end of the trade paperback. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0120.html)
121: The sad part is, the d3 really does get more play than the d12. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html)
122: How the average town prepares for the arrival of adventurers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122.html)
123: Haley and her "gemstones". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123.html)
124: Everyone levels except Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0124.html)
125: "Run, run, run, run away from my psychotic teammate!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0125.html)
126: "Hard work may pay off in the long run, but laziness always pays off right now!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0126.html)
127: Elan puts on his robe and wizard hat. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0127.html)
128: Elan and Vaarsuvius make up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0128.html)
129: The eternal question. Which is more valuable? Gold and gems, or ordinary rocks? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0129.html)
130: Magic items are passed out. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0130.html)
131: We find out about the ransom. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0131.html)
132: Belkar visits the Barbarian's Guild. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0132.html)
133: Belkar proves his worth to the Barbarian's Guild. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0133.html)
134: Roy gets the Starmetal sidequest. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0134.html)
135: The infamous Potion Shop strip. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0135.html)
136: The infamous Polearm Shop sketch strip. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0136.html)
137: The not really infamous strip where Banjo almost makes it into the Northern Pantheon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html)
138: Durkon's struggle to find stealthier armor. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0138.html)
139: Roy convinces the party to join him on the Starmetal quest. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0139.html)
140: Belkar gets a doggie. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0140.html)
141: Apparently, Elan has just enough skill points to invest in Ride. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0141.html)
142: Sabine was the smith all along! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0142.html)
143: The horses fail their spot checks. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0143.html)
144: Roy should have used the broken sword. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0144.html)
145: Vaarsuvius explains that there is never more than one random encounter per journey. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0145.html)
146: Belkar doesn't feel safe around Roy any more. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0146.html)
147: The MitD's umbrella makes its first appearance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0147.html)
148: "It's official: Orange is the new green." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0148.html)
149: Redcloak become Supreme Leader of the Hobgoblins. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0149.html)
150: Our heroes enter Wooden Forest. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0150.html)
151. Haley gives two aspiring thieves some useful pointers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0151.html)
152. What's the Pickpocket DC on a bard, anyway? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0152.html)
153. Roy leaves the party, and Elan, to fates unknown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0153.html)
154. Haley names V's familiar Blackwing; V wonders if "Pinata" would be more apt. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0154.html)
155. Haley displays mysterious time-altering abilities. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0155.html)
156. Elan gets some use out of Animate Rope after all. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0156.html)
157. When in doubt, set the Bandit Camp on fire. When not in doubt, do it anyway. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0157.html)
158. Haley instructs us all on the economics of banditry. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0158.html)
159. Samantha's father reveals Samantha's history; Samantha reveals herself. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0159.html)
160. 160. A jealous Haley challenges Samantha. Bad idea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0160.html)
161. Putting your faith in a dwarf in a forest may not be advisable. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0161.html)
162. Roy has a change of heart and decides to save Elan after all. And the rest of the party, too. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0162.html)
163. Roy tries to save the party while Durkon's a little tied up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0163.html)
164. Well, he saved three of the party's necks, anyway. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0164.html)
165. Belkar comments on humanocentric methods of execution. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0165.html)
166. Elan and Samantha play Tetherbelkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0166.html)
167. Roy is an equal match for Samantha's father; the rhinoceros, not so much. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0167.html)
168. Samantha's father challenges his daughter for leadership of the bandits. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0168.html)
169. A shocking new contender in the bandit leader competition enters the fray. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0169.html)
170. Durkon disbands the bandits instead of abusing his power. Well, mostly. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0170.html)
171. Belkar's approval fills Roy with shame. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0171.html)
172. Haley makes a daring rescue of Elan's affection for Roy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0172.html)
173. A wizard NEVER loses their ticket. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0173.html)
174. Enter mysterious blue-cloaked figure, exit weasel. Please. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0174.html)
175. Hexes get some much-deserved appreciation. (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0175.html)
176. A battle with a witch takes out two spellcasters. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0176.html)
177. Belkar's attempt to determine V's sex is thwarted by a lack of veterinary knowledge. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0177.html)
178. V looks over the spells V can still cast as a lizard; none of them are "Hold Raven." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0178.html)
179. Belkar doesn't trust Roy enough to believe he lied. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0179.html)
180. Feather Fall saves the day; the party sings Elan's praises. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0180.html)
181. The appearance of a young black dragon makes the party appreciate the dark. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0181.html)
182. The Young Black Dragon turns down some of V's helpful Suggestions. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0182.html)
183. V and Haley save each other from being eaten. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0183.html)
184. Haley loves ukeleles. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0184.html)
185. Roy is a future psychic. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0185.html)
186. V Disintegrates the Young Black Dragon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html)
187. The Order discover the dragon's hoard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0187.html)
188. Roy acquires a small bounty of starmetal. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html)
189. For want of a Gather Information check, Samantha and her father fall. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0189.html)
190. Redcloak discovers the utility of sacrificing minions. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0190.html)
191. Xykon regenerates a finger. Guess which one. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0191.html)
192. The hobgoblins go crackers over Redcloak's plan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0192.html)
193. An angel opens Xykon's eyes to a whole new way of doing things. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0193.html)
194. MitD defeats some lantern archons with his desire for light. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0194.html)
195. Team Evil does some light reading. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0195.html)
196. MitD wonders what "Gate" Serini's diary keeps going on about. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0196.html)
197. Redcloak's army turns out to be far larger than he'd realized. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0197.html)
198. A sprained wrist leads Elan to experiment with other instruments. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0198.html)
199. An ominous rainstorm leads Elan to freak out. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0199.html)
200. Miko is revealed at last. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0200.html)
201: Roy can be smitten, but not by Smite Evil. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0201.html)
202: Lead sheets are a sign of manhood. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0202.html)
203: Turns out, destroying the Gate may not have been such a good idea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0203.html)
204: Roy attempts to convince his party to go with Miko. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0204.html)
205: Free. Trip. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0205.html)
206: Elan is on an adventure! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0206.html)
207: "Dragons: Color-coded for YOUR convenience!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0207.html)
208: Belkar threatens a horse. I don't even need to make a joke for that. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0208.html)
209: Samurai, and the types thereof. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0209.html)
210: Wherein we are forced to consider the mating habits of Displacer Beasts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0210.html)
211: Of Plot Hooks and Dirt Farmers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0211.html)
212: Surprisingly enough, Haley wants to help someone other than herself. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0212.html)
213: If Belkar is the world's best tracker under four feet tall, I would hate to see the worst. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0213.html)
214: Apparently, Miko is not a fan of surprise attacks. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0214.html)
215: Love is an Epic-Level challenge. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html)
216: More AoOs than you can shake a spiked chain at! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0216.html)
217: Elan's disguises are so good they fool even him! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0217.html)
218: Technically, the old man is right about how listen checks are affected by age. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0218.html)
219: Belkar finally gets to savor the thump of falling ogres. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0219.html)
220: Vaarsuvius' invoice is louder than his/her regular voice. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0220.html)
221: Explosive Runes only has one "i". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0221.html)
222: The Dirt Farmers are reunited...Hooray? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0222.html)
223: Vaarsuvius muses on the nature of love. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0223.html)
224: The OotS gives in to gluttony and corruption. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0224.html)
225: The TNT and poison don't seem suspicious at all. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0225.html)
226: Roy is a king in my book. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html)
227: Roy wears pink fuzzy bunny slippers, and no one seems to mind. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0227.html)
228: Detect Evil is classified as a radiological weapon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0228.html)
229: In a stick figure comic, no one can see your shadow. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0229.html)
230: How did a horse manage to file a restraining order? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0230.html)
231: Explosions can always be relied upon to save you from uncomfortable conversations. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0231.html)
232: Elan takes better care of Roy's stuff than he does. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0232.html)
233: The Belt makes its triumphant return! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0233.html)
234: Roy disappoints his father in a new and exciting way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0234.html)
235: Roy learns how it feels to be objectified. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0235.html)
236: Roy has boobies (This time, for realsies)! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0236.html)
237: Roy is such a slut. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0237.html)
238: Elan is no Pied Piper. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0238.html)
239: He already opened the door, Roy. There was no need to kick it off its hinges. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0239.html)
240: Whore attack! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0240.html)
241: Bluffs, Belkar, and a Woman's Intuition. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0241.html)
242: If you've never gotten an inn blown up, you aren't a real adventurer. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0242.html)
243: Fortunately, sacks of gold are immune to nonmagical fire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0243.html)
244: Is this what passes for pickup lines in Halfling lands? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0244.html)
245: "I think we broke Haley." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0245.html)
246: Naturally, Miko survives. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0246.html)
247: Sneak attack boot to the face! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0247.html)
248: Fans of Cryptograms rejoice! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0248.html)
249: The Trouser Titan returns, amidst Disturbing Mental Images. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0249.html)
250: Roy finally stands up to Miko. Yes, really. I know, right? About damn time! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0250.html)
251. Roy chews Miko out and tries to leave, but the plot doesn't derail so readily. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0251.html)
252. Sabine tries to convince Nale to begin Linear Guild recruitment, because they're out of fudge ripple. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0252.html)
253. Larry Gardner meets the Linear Guild. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0253.html)
254. The Guild decides to recruit Pompey the half-elf. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0254.html)
255. Nale tells Pompey their plan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0255.html)
256. The Linear Guild meets Julia Greenhilt. (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0256.html)
257. Thog kidnaps Julia with rockets, while Pompey reveals his hidden agenda. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0257.html)
258. The Linear Guild begin preparations for Nale's trap, which do not include Celine Dion albums. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0258.html)
259. Hobgoblins Kodrog the Slayer and Jim answer reader questions and almost reveal the MitD. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0259.html)
260. You all meet in a cell... no wait. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0260.html)
261. Belkar escapes from solitary. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0261.html)
262. Love - for when bard songs just won't work. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0262.html)
263. The Order, sans Durkon and Belkar, prepares to escape. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0263.html)
264. Quick movement on the Orders' part and quick thinking on Durkon's prevent the Order from getting in (more) trouble. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0264.html)
265. On the way to the courtroom, Hinjo and the Order bond, and Miko leaves to track down Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0265.html)
266. Elan spins a variety of wild theories about Lord Shojo's identity. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0266.html)
267. The arrival of a purported being of pure Law and Good makes the Order nervous. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0267.html)
268. Jones and Rodriguez arrive for the prosecution; Celia arrives for the defense. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0268.html)
269. Celia explains how catching her boyfriend "slipping the wood" to a dryad led her to go back to school. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0269.html)
270. When in doubt, set Miko on fire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0270.html)
271. Various old NPCs come back to testify against the Order. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0271.html)
272. Celia demands to know how blowing up Dorukan's Gate weakened the fabric of reality. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0272.html)
273. Crayons of Time I - at the dawn of time, the gods argued over how the world should be. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html)
274. Crayons of Time II - The Snarl kills the Eastern gods and destroys the first world. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html)
275. Crayons of Time III - the gods imprison the Snarl in a new world, but rifts emerge, and the Snarl kills Soon's wife. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0275.html)
276. Crayons of Time IV - The Order of the Scribble forms and seals the rifts, and Kraagor dies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0276.html)
277. Crayons of Time V - The Order of the Scribble breaks up, each defends their own Gate, and the Sapphire Guard forms. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0277.html)
278. Celia doesn't make the crazy rules - she just twists them to her purpose. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0278.html)
279. Belkar takes a brief break from his rooftop fight with Miko to make Halfling Drop Soup. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0279.html)
280. Roy tells Elan not to help the prosecution with their rhyme scheme. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0280.html)
281. Belkar knocks Miko out with a lead sheet and waits for her to wake up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0281.html)
282. The lawyers make their closing arguments. They're too brief for V's tastes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0282.html)
283. Elan doesn't know which side to vote for, and creates a weekend cliffhanger. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0283.html)
284. The Order minus Belkar are cleared of all charges, but before they can leave, Miko knocks Belkar through a window into the courtroom. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0284.html)
285. The Order come to Belkar's defense; Miko attempts to take them all down, but is ordered to stop, and instead swears to take down the Order eventually. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0285.html)
286. Vaarsuvius points out some holes in Belkar's plan to make Miko fall. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0286.html)
287. Roy sics Elan on Hinjo as token revenge for their incarceration. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0287.html)
288. Haley and Roy play an impromptu game of charades. Shojo has a gaze attack that causes encephalitis? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0288.html)
289. Shojo reveals his deception at last, and explains why he fakes senility. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0289.html)
290. Shojo explains why he sent Miko to get them, and Eugene's father reveals himself as the being of pure Law and Good. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0290.html)
291. Eugene explains that he hasn't been able to manifest to Roy because the Greenhilt sword was broken. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0291.html)
292. Xykon is alive!! Well, not actually alive. Technically he's still dead. Just not, you know, DEAD-dead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0292.html)
293. Roy accepts Shojo's quest for all the right reasons. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0293.html)
294. Roy tears up the other members' contracts and reveals that he's gotten Belkar out of jail. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0294.html)
295. Roy expounds upon the conditions of Belkar's release. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0295.html)
296. Roy tells each of the other Order members their favor, then goes to get his sword reforged. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0296.html)
297. Roy discovers that his sword, though not originally starmetal, can be reforged as a starmetal sword that will cause extra damage to undead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0297.html)
298. Dramatic montage sequence framed by Roy's sword being reforged. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0298.html)
299. The MitD wants to be useful, but fails to provide crucial shade. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0299.html)
300. Xykon, Redcloak and their army prepare for war. Next stop - Azure City. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0300.html)
301: Intermission, Milk Dudes make the ultimate sacrifice (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0301.html)
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302: Azure New Year's Eve, Elan celebrates invisibly (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0302.html)
303: Haley's speech problems examined, she might be deceiving someone (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0303.html)
304: Belkar out on the Town, shows a flaw in Azurite stilt construction (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0304.html)
305: Durkon composes his missive to the High Priest (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0305.html)
306: V learns Power Word Blind, but at great cost! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0306.html)
307: Haley makes dinner plans with Elan, somewhat aggressively (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0307.html)
308: Roy gets his sword back, and the girl (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0308.html)
309: Elan and Haley's dinner conversation leaves something to be desired (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0309.html)
310: Celia and Roy's date starts out quite well (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0310.html)
311: Haley's self-loathing enters the date (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0311.html)
312: V, Durkon, and Belkar go out for dinner, Belkar wants wings (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0312.html)
313: Celia and Roy's dinner date is going *really* well (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0313.html)
314: Haley's self loathing has a plan, Haley isn't really on board (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0314.html)
315: Celia takes Roy for a flight, travels to the light (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0315.html)
316: Countdown to Midnight, Haley's loathing's plan is not implemented (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0316.html)
317: The morning after, V prepared explosive runes for B (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0317.html)
318: Roy reveals the plan to go see the Oracle (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0318.html)
319: Haley fights an internal battle with herself, she wins, and loses (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html)
320: Celia exits stage up, the party sets out to Sunken Valley (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0320.html)
321: The Order interrogates Roy about the Oracle, their mounts are lost to a technicality (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0321.html)
322: Random Encounter with the Owlbear, we find it's one lick to the center of a V-Pop (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0322.html)
323: Roy lays down the law between V and Belkar, stop the fighting (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0323.html)
324: Arrival at Sunken Valley, some disclaimers do apply (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0324.html)
325: Test of the Body: Belkar vs a Hydra...Belkar gets a head, or 2, or 4... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0325.html)
326: Goblin Dan gains a business plan, Hydra Head BBQ (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0326.html)
327: Test of the Mind: Haley takes an innovative approach to the problem (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html)
328: Test of the Heart: Oversold, but under 120/80, good to go! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0328.html)
329: The Party meets the Oracle, Belkar's Doom is Prohesized (maybe...) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0329.html)
330: The Oracle and the Order negotiate his fee (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html)
331: Prophecies are given, Roy outsmarts the Oracle, and himself (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html)
332: Roy realizes his error, just a tad too late...the Order leaves Sunken Valley (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0332.html)
333: Durkon is ecstatic because of his Posthumous Prophesy (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0333.html)
334: Belkar boobytraps V with hornets (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0334.html)
335: V explains that Belkar only has two emotions, Hate and Lust (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0335.html)
336: Elan bugs Roy repeatedly...then Nale enters the scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0336.html)
337: Nale gives Roy an ultimatum regarding Roy's sister , 25 words at a time (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0337.html)
338: Roy interrupts the quest to rescue his sister, Belkar needs to be convinced (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0338.html)
339: Welcome to Cliffport, a murder spree is underway (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0339.html)
340: The Order arrives in Cliffport, and plans their attack on Nale (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html)
341: The Order takes their places for the attack, Thog misses Candyland (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0341.html)
342: Roy finds Julia, fails his "Pay Tactical Attention" roll (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0342.html)
343: Sabine fights Roy, drains a level of his (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0343.html)
344: Leeky Windstaff attacks with the Trees, Durkon's fears are confirmed (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0344.html)
345: V is unable to destroy Leeky's Trees, needs some assistance (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0345.html)
346: Haley snipes from above, falls on a flumph (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0346.html)
347: CSI: Cliffport comes through, CPPD heads to the park (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0347.html)
348: YokYok wanks to kill Belkar, we're inside a town, so Belkar has to run (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0348.html)
349: Back to Roy vs Sabine, it is revealed she was the source of the starmetal quest (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0349.html)
350: The CPPD arrives, Julia escapes while the apprentice tries to hold them off (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0350.html)
351: While the battle rages, Nale captures Elan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0351.html)
352: Julia meets Durkon, who calls down the thunder (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0352.html)
353: Durkon vs. Leeky Windstaff begins; Leeky bears out (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0353.html)
354: Durkon and Leeky fight; Julia plays Centipede (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0354.html)
355: Julia reaches the CPPD; Roy finishes the fight with Sabine (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0355.html)
356: Roy captures Pompey, but he escapes with Sabine (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0356.html)
357: Belkar unleashes a wave of adventurers on the kobold-of-the-day (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0357.html)
358: The party (sans Elan) reunites; Belkar has some kobold-infused chips and salsa (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0358.html)
359: The party finally takes down Leeky (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0359.html)
360: The police tries to get Roy's attention; Nale kills The Chief (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0360.html)
361: Nale switches places with Elan, and the CPPD arrive (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0361.html)
362: Thog and "Nale" resist arrest while "Elan" cooperates; the OOTS enters the scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0362.html)
363: Elan and Thog are arrested; Nale explains that they'll be in jail a long time (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0363.html)
364: Julia and Roy say their goodbyes; Nale and Sabine don't get this "no killing your brother" thing (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0364.html)
365: Nale and Sabine make out prior to departure; V notices ("Must fight urge to assert heterosexuality!") (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0365.html)
366: The party teleports out; Nale hears about the threat to the world for the first time (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0366.html)
367: Elan begs a guard to set him free; Thog gives the "not-nale" soliloquy (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0367.html)
368: Miko arrives at the watchtower, and Xykon knocks on the door (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0368.html)
369: Miko fights Redcloak while Xykon and MITD place bets (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0369.html)
370: Xykon traps Miko, kills a guard and breaks the tower's warning beacon (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0370.html)
371: Miko argues about Evil with Xykon and Redcloak. "Fear leads to anger," and it gets a bit murky from there (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0371.html)
372: Redcloak gives Miko a "you're just as bad as us" spiel and they leave her to stew (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0372.html)
373: Miko breaks out of Xykon's forcecage and comes face-to-shadow-gradient with MITD (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0373.html)
374: Miko and MITD compete to see who can hit the lightest. MITD knocks her and Windstriker out of the tower (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0374.html)
375: Miko rides away; MITD finds the High Priest's letter telling Durkon he can come back, and eats it (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0375.html)
376: Xykon and Redcloak explain the plan to let Miko escape; Xykon unveils the new widescreen crystal ball (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0376.html)
377: Everybody arrives in Azure City; flashback to the Order nearly getting eaten by a roc (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0377.html)
378: Nale and Sabine talk strategy; Haley gives the disguised Sabine a death-glare; Roy takes Nale to Shojo to hear the story of the Gates (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0378.html)
379: Roy recaps the Cliffport adventure for Shojo, and gets a skeleton thrown at him (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html)
380: Nale tells Sabine about the gates; she heads out to tell the IFCC, while Nale drops in on Haley (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0380.html)
381: Nale sweet-talks Haley; her subconscious calls in all the personalities to figure out what to do (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0381.html)
382: Haley argues with herselves about the date with "Elan" and decides to go for it (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html)
383: Nale does his villainous monologue in a mirror, is discovered by Belkar, and Charms the halfling (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0383.html)
384: Nale and Haley "talk" briefly, then dine and dance in romantic silence (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0384.html)
385: Sabine sees Nale with Haley and seeks advice from V; Belkar chases Durkon while singing showtunes (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0385.html)
386: Nale leads Haley up to the room; Elan, Thog and Sabine burst in on the scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0386.html)
387: Begin the flashback to Cliffport; Elan and Thog break out of prison (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0387.html)
388: Elan and Thog get new clothes and sneak onto the Final Fantasy VI airship, but can't pass for console characters (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0388.html)
389: Elan meets Julio Scoundrel and secures a ride on the Mechane; we see his "giant wooden alpaca" plan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0389.html)
390: Julio shares the secret of the Dashing Swordsman class with Elan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0390.html)
391: Elan's Dashing Swordsman training montage (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0391.html)
392: The Mechane arrives in Azure City; Elan and Thog burst in on Nale again (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0392.html)
393: Elan and Nale fight; Haley gets her voice back and declares her love for Elan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0393.html)
394: The Linear Guild escapes, and Nale tells Sabine his plan for a romantic joint murder (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0394.html)
395: Haley hopes Elan somehow missed her declaration of love; the Linear Guild attacks while she's changing (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0395.html)
396: Haley and Elan fight the Guild; Thog kicks in a door; "Sneak Attack--BITCH!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0396.html)
397: V and Durkon arrive; Nale tries the old "I'm the good twin!" gambit but V sees through it with an insult (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0397.html)
398: The Order finishes off the Guild; Durkon hears Haley talk; group hug! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0398.html)
399: The Order debates how to keep Nale & company prisoner; Elan figures he can use his favor from Shojo; Cutaway to Pompey and Leeky abandoning the cause (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0398.html)
400: Everybody turns in for the night. Elan and Haley get their Big Damn Kiss (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0400.html)
401-Roy awakens to a morning full of accomplishments. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0401.html)
402-Roy learn all about the last night, Elan and Haley turn to their loved ones. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0402.html)
403-The order goes to castle, meets Hinjo and O-Chul. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0403.html)
404-Shojo takes Linear Guild as prisoners, O-Chul is uncomfortable with that. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0404.html)
405-Roy questions Shojo, Hinjo and Miko finds out Shojo's secret. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0405.html)
406-Hinjo and Miko confonts Shojo, Miko kills her lord. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0406.html)
407-Twelve gods disagree with Miko's analysis, she falls from paladinhood. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0407.html)
408-Roy attacks confused Miko, Miko attacks unarmed Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0408.html)
409-Miko and Hinjo confront each other, Roy ends the fight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0409.html)
410-Shojo refuses resurrection, Hinjo hire Roy as his bodyguard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0410.html)
411-Hinjo tells Roy about the sapphire and the gate of Azure City, Belkar is disappointed because he can't kill Miko's horse. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0411.html)
412-Hinjo is crowned, while the order discuss. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0412.html)
413-Azurites are making battle plans to defense themselves, Haley is interested in rare miniatures. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0413.html)
414-Nobles do leave Hinjo, assassins don't. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0414.html)
415-Xykon use TeeVo to watch Miko, Team Evil finds location of the gate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0415.html)
416-Team Evil is planning the battle (with classic comedy). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0416.html)
417-Haley has a pre-battle change of priorities. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html)
418-Hinjo has a junk, Belkar is disturbed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0418.html)
419-Miko makes an un-friendly contact with Sabine. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0419.html)
420-Hinjo makes an offer to Tsukiko and other prisoners, which Belkar can't refuse. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0420.html)
421-Elan's big pre-battle speech fails miserably. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0421.html)
422-Azurites and Hobgoblins march into battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0422.html)
423-Redcloak uses science to break Azure City defense. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0423.html)
424-Vaarsuvius vs Titanium Elementals, paper beats rock (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0424.html)
425-Roy saves Elan's life, much to his own dismay. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0425.html)
426-Xykon's decoys appeared, everyone is confused. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0426.html)
427-Vaarsuvius uses magic to stop hobgoblin attack. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0427.html)
428-Haley explains a con man's shell game, real Xykon is found. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html)
429-Roy attacks Xykon, Belkar gives him his ring for a bet. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0429.html)
430-Roy confronts Xykon, Xykon doesn't remember him (again!). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0430.html)
431-Redcloak explains the truth behind Xykon's decoys. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0431.html)
432-Hobgoblins don't like coconut oil, Belkar is jealous of Hinjo's big dog. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0432.html)
433-Hinjo wants to force hobgoblins into retreat, Redcloak has other plans. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0433.html)
434-Xykon tells all about his crown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0434.html)
435-Belkar faces a dilemma, which forces him to perform a quasi-good act. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html)
436-Vaarsuvius underestimate hobgoblins, death knight rides into battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0436.html)
437-Vaarsuvius explains Law of Cartoon Inertia. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0437.html)
438-Elan is running out of puns, Haley pass him notes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0438.html)
439-Belkar claimed to be a sexy shoeless god of war. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0439.html)
440-Death knight kills the general, Blackwing abandons V. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0440.html)
441-Roy saves V's life, Xykon is unimpressed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0441.html)
442-Xykon try to reason with Roy, Meteor Swarm'd him into ground. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0442.html)
443-Death of Roy Greenhilt. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0443.html)
444-Haley blame herself for Roy's death, Durkon console her. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0444.html)
445-Elan sungs "O buddy Roy", it affects everyone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0445.html)
446-Tsukiko joins Team Evil, betrays Azure City. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html)
447-Xykon faces Sapphire Guard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0447.html)
448-Xykon destroys Sapphire Guard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html)
449-Ghost-martyrs of Sapphire Guard attack! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0449.html)
450-Eye of Fear and Flame became Belkar's tool of destruction. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0450.html)
451: Redcloak decides racism isn't cool. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0451.html)
452: Wall of Orange. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0452.html)
453: Huecuvas, Ninjas, and Giant Dwarves with Hammers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0453.html)
454: Haley misses a totally dramatic shot. Repeatedly. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0454.html)
455: I killed a PC and all I got was this lousy summary! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0455.html)
456: CLERIC FIGHT! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)
457: Tsukiko is not invited to Redcloak's party. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0457.html)
458: The Linear Guild Escapes (again)! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0458.html)
459: TURN UNDEAD! (sort of.) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0459.html)
460: If only the bars in Miko's jail weren't cracked... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0460.html)
461: Miko enters the throne room. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0461.html)
462: Miko successfully screws the pooch. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0462.html)
463: KRRAACKKAKOOOOOOM!!! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0463.html)
464: Miko can live with that. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0464.html)
465: No Miko Death Knight for you! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0465.html)
466: And so begins the reign of Redcloak. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0466.html)
467: Belkar's Insult of Opportunity. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0467.html)
468: And they split the party. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0468.html)
469: Goodbye, Skullsy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0469.html)
470: Haley takes the dial marked "awesome" and cranks it up to eleven. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0470.html)
471: Elan gets a new lute. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0471.html)
472: The importance of having a name. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0472.html)
473: Homestyle hobgoblin filets actually sound pretty good. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0473.html)
474: The Corpse Formerly Known as Roy makes a friend. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0474.html)
475: That poor Vulture... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0475.html)
476: How to Prepare Vulture Stew. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0476.html)
477: "Did you...did you shoot Roy's corpse in the nuts?" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0477.html)
478: Squid pro quo! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0478.html)
479: Paladin. Shark. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0479.html)
480: Hinjo eats a Disintegrate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0480.html)
481: Hinjo's junk launches prematurely. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0481.html)
482: Hinjo's junk keeps going anyway. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0482.html)
483: Belkar misses out on the good looting. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0483.html)
484: Roy got a lot closer than you did, Eugene. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0484.html)
485: The importance of preparing Feather Fall. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0485.html)
486: Eugene gets dumped. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)
487: The "revolving door afterlife" is very real, indeed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0487.html)
488: The Judgement begins. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0488.html)
489: Why he keeps Belkar around. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0489.html)
490: Spoiler Alert: Roy is Lawful Good. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0490.html)
491: What exactly can you tip the Cherubim with? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0491.html)
492: Meet Roy's Archon. His name is...Roy's Archon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0492.html)
493: Climbing the mountain. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0493.html)
494: Roy moves back in with his mom. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0494.html)
495: Eugene wasn't kidding when he said it was "til death do us part". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0495.html)
496: "hi roy! wanna play blocks with me?" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0496.html)
497: An evil adventuring party crashes the regular party. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html)
498: It's not a Father-Son plot without a fishing scene. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0498.html)
499: The prodigal son returns. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0499.html)
500: Roy looks down on people (this time, literally). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0500.html)
501: Kazumi and Daigo married, House Kato heir on the way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html)
502: Elan's new job: VIP bodyguard (eyepatch required). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0502.html)
503: Enter a ninja, spying on Hinjo. Or maybe Elan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0503.html)
504: Broken link leads to wizard breakdown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0504.html)
505: More urgent issues than a mere sea troll raid. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0505.html)
506: Elan and Therkla's first meeting involves flanking together. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0506.html)
507: Safety first: Where to dispose of used corpses. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0507.html)
508: Kazumi and Daigo get a wedding gift to make up for their trashed reception. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0508.html)
509: Therkla and Qarr discuss the mysteries of an assassin's heart. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0509.html)
510: Roy and Eugene go for Epic level scrying. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0510.html)
511: An introduction to the basics of goblin slave driving. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0511.html)
512: Haley finds that 0-level spell beats pointy arrow. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0512.html)
513: Tsukiko's Undead First Responders. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0513.html)
514: Thanh in "Paladin on a stealth mission": Bad idea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0514.html)
515: Belkar: Up a level, down a level. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0515.html)
516: Thanh, it's your turn to get turned. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0516.html)
517: Bring it on, Haley. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html)
518: And she gets blown out the panel. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0518.html)
519: Haley, running away from friend and foe. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0519.html)
520: Belkar chooses his side. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0520.html)
521: Belkar's second thoughts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0521.html)
522: It says secret on that door, because it's, well, secret. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0522.html)
523: For tips on how to get a free ride, ask Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0523.html)
524: For tips on how to break mind control, ask Haley. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0524.html)
525: Roy gets his celestial backside kicked. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0525.html)
526: Roy finds out about certain realities of death. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0526.html)
527: Being dead doesn't help with communication, either. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0527.html)
528: Haley cracks the mystery of Celia's talisman. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0528.html)
529: In case of emergency, break glass, get a sylph. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0529.html)
530: Now, let's break the bad news to Celia. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0530.html)
531: Haley connects the dots. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0531.html)
532: Dorukan's ultimate abjuration, explained. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0532.html)
533: Belkar, unifier of the Resistance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0533.html)
534: Roy, you're benched, you know. Get over it. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0534.html)
535: Thanh takes over. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0535.html)
536: A tribute to Gary Gygax. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0536.html)
537: Celia's not a killer, but she's got eyeliner. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0537.html)
538: Celia's evil act needs Belkar's help. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0538.html)
539: Belkar's Resistance: One goblin, one gnome at a time. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0539.html)
540: Haley enacts milk chocolate justice. With almonds. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0540.html)
541: Tonight on the Demon Roach Entertainment Network: Sharks, Acid, and Paladin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html)
542: Xykon wins the betting pool. Again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0542.html)
543: Redcloak finds how hard managing the evil team is. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0543.html)
544: Redcloak explains the stakes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0544.html)
545: O'Chul can't lie to save somebody else's life. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html)
546: O'Chul's and Redcloak's competing scenarios. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html)
547: Redcloak gives up, doesn't even win the public relations contest. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0547.html)
548: Redcloak and the roaches count the sides in the conflict. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0548.html)
549: The MitD and O'Chul start their secret club. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0549.html)
550: O'Chul on the definition of friendship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0550.html)
551: The Order is being chased by a Pack of orcs...why? We don't know! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0551.html)
552: Elan's casts an illusion of MORE orcs...somehow, this works (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0552.html)
553: We find out why the orcs were chasing, orcs love Banjo! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0553.html)
554: Lien was left behind, V isn't all that interested in a rescue (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0554.html)
555: Ahh, that's why...the Orcs were being paid by an imp...Therkla is on the scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0555.html)
556: A net proves to be Elan's dramatic undoing (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0556.html)
557: Banjo interrupts the sacrifice of Lien...well...maybe not... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0557.html)
558: Nope, it's off, because Elan convinces "Banjo" to release them... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0558.html)
559: The Imp tries to charm the Orc chief, Durkon dispels, but the chase is on! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0559.html)
560: The Rescue party takes a shortcut, we learn that Therkla is a Ninja (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0560.html)
561: Enter Giggles. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0561.html)
562: Ninja Girl and Bard Boy! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0562.html)
563: Vaarsuvius' Greater Animal Messenger. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0563.html)
564: Back to the Oracle! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0564.html)
565: The Test of the Mind is much easier the second time around. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0565.html)
566: The Oracle is of little help. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0566.html)
567: Belkar's Prophecy comes true. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0567.html)
568: Curses! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0568.html)
569: Vomiting. Lots of Vomiting. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0569.html)
570: Now leaving Sunken Valley. Again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0570.html)
571: The Oracle gets better : Roy finally finds a living being to talk to. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
572: Roy is dismissed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0572.html)
573: Celia's turn to mess up. Next stop, Greysky City. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0573.html)
574: To Grubwiggler! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0574.html)
575: No undead, but bone golems are fine. Yep. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0575.html)
576: Really, Celia, you should have seen this coming. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0576.html)
577: Haley to the rescue! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0577.html)
578: Fleeing from Golems. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html)
579: Time to lay low. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0579.html)
580: Why you should buy On the Origin of PCs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0580.html)
581: Cutting back to Elan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0581.html)
582: Meeting with Ninjas. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0582.html)
583: As we all know, trees bleed and speak. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0583.html)
584: A one-in-a-million chance is a sure thing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0584.html)
585: Common Sense banishment. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0585.html)
586: To the fleet! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0586.html)
587: A baby-making, life-taking MACHINE! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0586.html)
588: Silver blades and silver fillings. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0588.html)
589: Therkla doesn't know about dramatic entrances. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0589.html)
590: A big day for gender equality all around. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0590.html)
591: The Fiend is stoned. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0591.html)
592: Therkla's choice. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0592.html)
593: The consequences. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0593.html)
594: Catching Kubota. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0594.html)
595: "Disintegrate. Gust of Wind." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0595.html)
596: Elan grasps the basics of sarcasm. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0596.html)
597: Elan is immune to subtle threats. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0597.html)
598: A totally kickass headstone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0598.html)
599: Vaarsuvius departs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0599.html)
600: Roy learns to disrupt the spellcasting of a dummy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html)
601: Eugene gives Roy the bad (to the bone) news. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0601.html)
602: Durkon is quite generic, isn't he? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0602.html)
603: "At last, someone selling out works in our favor!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0603.html)
604: Celia makes a very convincing argument in these tough economic times. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0604.html)
605: A wild Shojo appears! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html)
606: The game of "Society". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html)
607: PICKLE DEATH ATTACK! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0607.html)
608: Teenage girls and their murder death vows. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0608.html)
609: Rapid XP gain. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0609.html)
610: Passcode: "Evolve or die"! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0610.html)
611: Making up for lost killing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0611.html)
612: "Brainy Pete". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0612.html)
613: Last minute field goals and sandwich metaphors. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0613.html)
614: Celia can't get past the hair. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0614.html)
615: +5 Icy Burst Archory. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0615.html)
616: No kill stealing today. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0616.html)
617: Which are worse; Thieves or Lawyers? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0617.html)
618: "Screw this! I've only got 14 hit points! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0618.html)
619: Poor Two-Life Tony. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0619.html)
620: And so, Bozzok lives to steal another day. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0620.html)
621: Celia betrays Haley's principles all over the friggin' place. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0621.html)
622: Belkar gets his pastrami sandwich. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0622.html)
623: Finding Plot Holes for Dummies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0623.html)
624: Bugsby's Expressive Single Digit! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0624.html)
625: Qarr is rejected, again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0625.html)
626: Mommy has arrived. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0626.html)
627: "I am still a dragon." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0627.html)
628: Mommy is mad. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0628.html)
629: Trance deprivation is bad for your aim. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0629.html)
630: Vaarsuvius panics. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0630.html)
631: Pre-approved. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0631.html)
632: Meet the IFCC. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0632.html)
633: Don't put the hellcart before the demon-horse. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0633.html)
634: Vaarsuvius accepts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0634.html)
635: Color change! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0635.html)
636: Disjunction. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0636.html)
637: Back to the Lower Planes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0637.html)
638: Shapechange. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0638.html)
639: Familicide. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html)
640: The aftermath. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0640.html)
641: The necromancer has left the building. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0641.html)
642: "I still need to fix everything." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0642.html)
643: The Azurite fleet finds a place to stay. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html)
644: A tribute to Dave Arneson. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0644.html)
645: The deep end of the alignment pool. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html)
646: Haley and Elan are reunited. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0646.html)
647: "Woooooo! Wind walk is the best cleric spell ever!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0647.html)
648: Crystal dies - never answer the door for Roland 'Itiative. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0648.html)
649: Getting Diamonds. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0649.html)
650: Vaarsuvius makes yet another bad decision. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0650.html)
651: Today in breaking and entering: Elf interrupts game of Go. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0651.html)
652: Xykon shows Vaarsuvius the limits of channeled raw energies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0652.html)
653: V: Spliced no more. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html)
654: O'Chul's time for action. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0654.html)
655: Redcloak loses more than just an eye. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0655.html)
656: V's biggest hurdle is a door. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0656.html)
657: Xykon's power speech. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0657.html)
658: Blackwing's timely return. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0658.html)
659: Guess what spell V memorized this morning. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0659.html)
660: The fall of the phylactery. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0660.html)
661: MitD: "You need to ESCAPE". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html)
662: Redcloak pays the Idiot Tax. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0662.html)
663: Neither Hinjo, O'Chul, Haley or Elan expected this reunion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0663.html)
664: Roy takes the Highway from Heaven. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html)
665: Back in the game, with legs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0665.html)
666: What Roy remembers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0666.html)
667: V's time outs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0667.html)
668: Infernal plans. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0668.html)
669: Roy and Celia on the philosophical consequences of mortality. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0669.html)
670: War council leads to shared intelligence leads to covert insertion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0670.html)
671: Time for farewells. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0671.html)
672: What Blackwing saw. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html)
DaggerPen
2014-01-12, 11:20 PM
673: Crime rate spikes in Sandsedge. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)
674: Raven? What raven? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0674.html)
675: Elan, best haggler ever. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0675.html)
676: Roy and Belkar, looking for that special shop. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0676.html)
677: No spellcasting on magic shop premises. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0677.html)
678: V gets served. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0678.html)
679: V begins to accept the consequences of certain actions. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0679.html)
680: Haley and Elan get a geography course. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html)
681: Haley's family business. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0681.html)
682: Durkon is mildly appreciative of Belkar's help. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0682.html)
683: Bug-eyed slaver attack. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0683.html)
684: V's newfound self-restraint. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0684.html)
685: Belkar's got an urge to renew old ties. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0685.html)
686: Roy shows how much he has learned about jumping. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0686.html)
687: A comparison on how to say "thank you", Belkar vs. Roy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0687.html)
688: Belkar's substance abuse causes a random encounter with a big worm. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0688.html)
689: The Order gets a pretty good beast of burden. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0689.html)
690: Conversations on the back of a worm. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0690.html)
691: Desert search checks. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0691.html)
692: Another of Elan's dramatic montage scenes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0692.html)
693: Elan was hoping for dinosaurs, but that's not a keyword for Draketooth. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html)
694: Girard's gate coordinates are wrong. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0694.html)
695: Deception followed by explosion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0695.html)
696: Elan's warning, and V's social commentary. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0696.html)
697: Haley on bluffs and double bluffs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0697.html)
698: The order decides to investigates cities next. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html)
699: The MitD bothers somebody else. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0699.html)
700: Xykon's ritual is too clever by half, but Tsukiko gets the MitD's help. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html)
701: Redcloak prepares for public speaking and the MITD participated! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0701.html)
702: The birth of a (goblin) nation. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0702.html)
703: Redcloak must leave his flock, but Jirix is primed and ready. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0703.html)
704: Jirix relates a refreshingly direct message from beyond the grave. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0704.html)
705: Team Peregrine prepares an attack while goblins celebrate with burgers (cheese included). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0705.html)
706: No alerts for dead goblins. With singing knights. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0706.html)
707: Good goblins do exist and Thanh is oblivious. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0707.html)
708: Redcloak ordered a super-sized Impotence Special named Tsukiko. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0708.html)
709: Obscure plot minutiae foils the MITD's plan to find O-Chul. Lien is sad. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html)
710: Elan searches for Girard and banishes all laughter from taverns. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)
711: Haley completes a trial of doom, joins a Sisterhood, and buys moisturizer all in the same day! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0711.html)
712: V, Haley, and Elan are ambushed. V is poisoned and Elan uses his new spell to decent effect. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0712.html)
713: Elan and Haley are disarmed and Elan gets beaten up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0713.html)
714: Elan gets pun-ished some more and Blackwing has a revelation from ~550 strips ago. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0714.html)
715: Elan is mistaken for Nale and V has a plan not involving soul-selling. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0715.html)
716: V stuns the competition and clues are left to lead Roy to the Empire of Blood. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0716.html)
717: You have the wrong twin we're off to see the Empress. Plus labor disputes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0717.html)
718: Malack's first appearance, Elan's an imbecile, and wet t-shirt contests. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0718.html)
719: The empress is fat, and not smart, and has cow on her face. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0719.html)
720: Elan makes the empress mad and Malack suggests Elan for a main course. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0720.html)
721: A daring escape involving a Blade Barrier to the face and a Yummy vs. Pointy graph. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0721.html)
722: Haley gets defenestrated and captures herself while Elan surrenders to the General. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0722.html)
723: Luke, I am your father. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0723.html)
724: The Star Wars references continue and a bounty is paid. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0724.html)
725: Part of Tarquin's backstory and hereditary speculations. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html)
726: They're guests now and Haley's reason is trumped by dinosaurs. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0726.html)
727: Elan stumbles into the plot. Tarquin knows Draketooth and will spill the beans after the festival. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0727.html)
728: The bounty hunters discuss their job and Belkar smells ylang-ylang. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0728.html)
729: Roy asks a reasonable question and starts a bar fight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0729.html)
730: Bar fight mayhem. Mr. Scruffy contributes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0730.html)
731: The police arrive, Roy and Belkar get arrested, and they had the wrong twin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0731.html)
732: Durkon gets left behind and gets papers for the Empire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0732.html)
733: Durkon should have prepared 5 sending spells. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0733.html)
734: Roy and Belkar get life in prison with the possibility of death via arena. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html)
735: Durkon arrives pretending to be a religious pilgrim and meets Malack. The bounty hunters get screwed at court. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0735.html)
736: Gladiator arena tropes are explored. Belkar's a jerk. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0736.html)
737: Durkon and Malack discuss religion. Xykon fails his Oracle checkup. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0737.html)
738: Bounty hunters refuse to work with Roy and Belkar helps them anyway. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0738.html)
739: Durkon spots Elan and Haley and promises to add Malack to Macebook. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0739.html)
740: The unnecessary one dwarf rescue team. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0740.html)
741: V sends to Roy, and the party is staying until after the festival. The festival spoils Roy's optimism. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0741.html)
742: Dinner time. The Free City of Doom is invited. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0742.html)
743: Haley converts to Thor and gets drunk to fool Malack. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0743.html)
744: The menu is Evil, Durkon is annoyed, and Belkar is well-fed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0744.html)
745: Halflings have lots of bonuses with a thrown rock. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0745.html)
746: Roy meets Ian and Geoff and their dated references. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0746.html)
747: Elan wins at logic, Haley is smashed and V talks to Hinjo. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html)
748: Roy gets to fight in the first slot. Belkar helped with the decision making process. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0748.html)
749: Morning routines, seductions, and prisoner escape plans. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0749.html)
750: A montage of father-son antics, spell research, and prisoner springing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0750.html)
751: Tarquin shows off the dimmers he had installed in the palace. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0751.html)
752: Haley gets her long hair back. And then some. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0752.html)
753: Roy and Belkar see Tarquin's face for the first time. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0753.html)
754: Elan blows his will save vs bias. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0754.html)
755: The Empire of Blood's Parade. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0755.html)
756: Amun-Zora attacks. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0756.html)
757: Amun-Zora is arrested. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0757.html)
758: Tarquin's scheme is revealed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html)
759: 200-foot-tall flaming letters. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0759.html)
760: Elan prepares to duel Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0760.html)
761: The duel does not go well. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0761.html)
762: Tarquin chooses not to execute Elan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html)
763: "If I win, I get to be a king. If I lose, I get to be a legend." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html)
764: Elan explains the situation to Haley. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0764.html)
765: Haley decides to go rescue her father. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0765.html)
766: Elan got a 9 this time. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0766.html)
767: Potion of Glibness. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0767.html)
768: Haley makes it to her father. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0768.html)
769: Ian thinks Haley is the leader. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0769.html)
770: Elan is taken prisoner by Geoff. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0770.html)
771: Roy punches Geoff. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0771.html)
772: Ian is too paranoid to be rescued. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0772.html)
773: Roy promises to take Ian and Geoff with him when he leaves prison. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0773.html)
774: Potions of Glibness only work on things that aren't true. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0774.html)
775: Elan is offended by bad choreography. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0775.html)
776: Elan gives a demoralizing speech to the crowd. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0776.html)
777: Gannji gives Enor the victory string. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0777.html)
778: The Allosaurus makes its debut. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0778.html)
779: If you lost a multipurpose lead sheet, you'd miss it too. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0779.html)
780: The Ultimate Battle! Commoner vs Housecat! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0780.html)
781: A guard decides to tease Belkar. It ends pretty much the way you'd expect. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0781.html)
782: Turns out Roy won't be fighting Enor after all. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0782.html)
783: The Heartbreaking Battle: Enor vs Gannji. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0783.html)
784: The Allosaurus to the rescue! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0784.html)
785: Enor and Gannji escape. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0785.html)
786: Belkar has a hard time keeping his secret. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0786.html)
787: The Champ is unveiled. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0787.html)
788: "thog says 'fudge the police!'" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0788.html)
789: Zz'dtri ambushes Haley. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0789.html)
790: Vaarsuvius decides to face Zz'dtri alone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0790.html)
791: Thog knows how to use his best ability score in a fight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0791.html)
792: Belkar thinks the Linear Guild is no threat, while Mr Scruffy gets shot. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0792.html)
793: Elan draws first blood against Nale via migraine. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0793.html)
794: Elan kisses his way free. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0794.html)
795: "TALKY-MAN BROKE THOG'S TUSK!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0795.html)
796: "STOP. TALKING." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0796.html)
797: Blackwing is a super-advanced flying stealth dinosaur! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0797.html)
798: Thog gets glassed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0798.html)
799: Vaarsuvius realizes how to win. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0799.html)
800: You may insert your own joke about Yukyuk being dominated here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0800.html)801: Amun-Zora is freed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0801.html)
802: Vaarsuvius journeys to the semi-elemental plane of Ranch Dressing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0802.html)
803: Blackwing delivers a Belt of Giant Strength. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0803.html)
804: Qarr thinks Sabine doesn't have her priorities straight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0804.html)
805: Celestial tree sloth attack! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0805.html)
806: Durkon joins the battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0806.html)
807: Belkar is angry at having nothing to stab. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0807.html)
808: "THAT'S how I use my intelligence score in combat, DUMBASS! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0808.html)
809: Tarquin catches Roy and Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0809.html)
810: Enter the Lizard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0810.html)
811: "HARM." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0811.html)
812: Infiltration Protocol. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0811.html)
813: Roy negotiates for his freedom. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0813.html)
814: Ian proves wisdom to be his dump stat by arguing with Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0814.html)
815: Ian escapes despite there being no reason to. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0815.html)
816: Tarquin talks about Draketooths. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0816.html)
817: Elan gets a flying carpet! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0817.html)
818: The heroes fly off. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0818.html)
819: Tarquin has a Ring of True Seeing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0819.html)
820: Nale spills the beans about the Gates. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0820.html)
821: Nale refuses to say "dunh dunh DUNH". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0821.html)
822: Meet the new Linear Guild. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0822.html)
823: Meanwhile, back at Azure City Gobbotopia, a search ends. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0823.html)
824: A bauble changes hands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0824.html)
825: Redcloak summons his own interior decorators. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0825.html)
826: "Screw it. Implosion." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0826.html)
827: As it turned out, resistance was futile after all. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0827.html)
828: There is an intruder in Redcloak's study. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0828.html)
829: Tsukiko knows something is fishy about the ritual. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0829.html)
830 Tsukiko makes a fatal mistake. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0830.html)
831: Redcloak pulls a switcheroo. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0831.html)
832: Redcloak casually admits murdering Tsukiko. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0832.html)
833: Team Evil heads out. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html)
834: Back in the desert... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html)
835: Vaarsuvius returns from the Semi-Elemental Plane of Ranch Dressing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0835.html)
836: Elan comes up with a plan for dealing with his father that he won't reveal. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0836.html)
837: Our heroes are forced to search for Girard's Gate the old-fashioned way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0837.html)
838: Roy decides to follow Belkar's nose. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0838.html)
839: The pyramid appeareth. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0839.html)
840: Yukyuk is a poor trapfinder. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0840.html)
841: The Draketooths are in no condition to help anyone but scavengers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0841.html)
842: Vaarsuvius sees a disturbing sight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0842.html)
843: Vaarsuvius can't handle the truth. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html)
844: Sometimes, the dead just prefer to stay that way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0844.html)
845: Unsurprisingly, corpses are good at hiding secrets. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0845.html)
846: Presenting Girard Draketooth. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0846.html)
847: The new and improved Linear Guild arrives. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0847.html)
848: Roy musters the troops for battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0848.html)
849: Meet "Thog". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0849.html)
850: The Order of the Stick engages "Thog". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0850.html)
851: The Order fights not-thog, Elan tries not to get in the way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0851.html)
852: The Order tries to find out not-thog's identity. NOPE! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0852.html)
853: The Order finds a trap, but not Vaarsuvius. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0853.html)
854: Tarquin and Malack talk things out like reasonable adults. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0854.html)
855: Roy plans an ambush. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0855.html)
856: Malack makes mummies, Nale makes plans, and Qarr cracks up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0856.html)
857: Vaarsuvius goes from moping to fleeing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0857.html)
858: Arrow fired; arrow catch backfired. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html)
859: HOLY. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0859.html)
860: Holy Word + evil party member = surprisingly effective, actually (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0860.html)
861: Qarr abandons Malack, Roy shows mummies his great cleavage. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0861.html)
862: The Linear Guild retreats. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0862.html)
863: The Linear Guild regroups, and Elan complains about being left out of the fight. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html)
864: A recap comic advances the plot (for once). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html)
865: The Order has a plan, and Xykon is on the move. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0865.html)
866: Vaarsuvius has regrets, is damned nine times, minimum. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0866.html)
867: Haley disarms runes, Belkar splits the party. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0867.html)
868: Belkar loses the path, finds... Malack? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0868.html)
869: Belkar still has some to learn about genre savviness. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0869.html)
870: And everyone said there was no way he'd be a vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0870.html)
871: Durkon learns unpleasant truths, scientific facts about Malack. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html)
872: Malack rolls poorly on his diplomacy check. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0872.html)
873: Durkon Heals Malack. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0873.html)
874: Belkar fails a will save and things go to Hel. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html)
875: Malack monologues. Soylent Red - it's people! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0875.html)
876: Malack dismisses Durkon's Death Ward. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0876.html)
877: Durkon dies. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0877.html)
878: Durkon rises. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0878.html)
879: Belkar runs back to the Order. Well, crawls. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0879.html)
880: Belkar breaks the news to the Order. Roy breaks down. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0880.html)
881: Belkar uses his primary skillset to get the Order moving again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html)
882: The Linear Guild meets the new addition to Malack's family. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0882.html)
883: The Linear Guild summons two fiends, and we check in on two others. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0883.html)
884: Qarr's lies reveal some truths. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0884.html)
885: Enter illusionary Xykon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0885.html)
886: Exit illusionary Xykon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0886.html)
887: The Order's phantasmal adventure, featuring nonstandard panel layouts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0887.html)
888: The Order arrive for the wedding of Elan's dreams. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0888.html)
889: Elan comes to terms with, brings the team back to reality. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0889.html)
890: Elan's Song of Freedom serves as a harsh wake-up call for Belkar. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0890.html)
891: Elan refuses to be demoralized by the illusion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0891.html)
892: The Linear Guild passes the Phantasm hall. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0892.html)
893: Roy thinks they're out of trouble when Nale's team passes them. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0893.html)
894: Sorry, Nale, but your Gate is in another pyramid. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0894.html)
895: Roy finds, pledges to destroy Girard's Gate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0895.html)
896: The IFCC interrupts Vaarsuvius's attempt to interrupt the Gate's destruction. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0896.html)
897: Vaarsuvius visits the planes in the ventral position. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0897.html)
898: The Order flee the destruction of the Gate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html)
899: Team Evil's plan blows up in their faces. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0899.html)
900: The Order learn there may be more to the Rifts than they believed, and Roy gets Disintegrated. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0900.html)
901. MitD saves the Order (kind of). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0901.html)
902. How does Spider-Man fight sand? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0902.html)
903. If the elf talks the readers will know too much. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0903.html)
904. Roy ponders the question of bows without quivers. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0904.html)
905. Nale decides to add to the Order's troubles with the surf and turf. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0905.html)
906. Malack dies. Again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0906.html)
907. Nale attempts to conduct a job interview (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0907.html)
908. Durkon kills Z, rejoins the OotS. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0908.html)
909. The Silicon elemental is gone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0909.html)
910. Enter Tarquin, riding triceratops. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0910.html)
911. Elan and Haley visit Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0911.html)
912. Tarquin screws with Elan, renders Nale apoplectic. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0912.html)
913. Nale now dead as a door-not-nale. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0913.html)
914. Sabine reacts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0914.html)
915. Tarquin frames Haley's dad. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0915.html)
916. Tarquin's firing squad: round two. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0916.html)
917. Plan A: survive till dusk. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0917.html)
918. Ding! Wizard's done. Time to check the inbox. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0918.html)
919. Enter V through sand. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0919.html)
920. V attempts to apologize. Everybody's busy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0920.html)
921. Everyone gets a reminder of what happens when a caster meets an army. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0921.html)
922. Belkar becomes an Eberron halfling in his own special way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0922.html)
923. Plan B: retreat. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0923.html)
924. Tarquin exchanges favors. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html)
925. Plan C: keep retreating. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0925.html)
926. Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator is rendered mostly harmless. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0926.html)
927. Tarquin's team tastes the rainbow. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0927.html)
928. Exit Miron, stage Contingent Greater Teleport. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0928.html)
929. Tarquin whips the Order's butts. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0929.html)
930. Enter Julio, stage up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0930.html)
931. Elan explains Julio's presence, Durkon gets his mojo back. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0931.html)
932. Julio makes for a fine distraction. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0932.html)
933. In which the Order boards the Mechane. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0933.html)
934. In which Tarquin breaks Haley's arm and a caster fight is imminent. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0934.html)
935: V wins through superior intelligence, and Blackwing snags a bauble. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0935.html)
936: Elan is no longer a twin, and this is a terrible ending. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html)
937: "I don't always take damage... but when I do, I drink a potion." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0937.html#)
938: Haley plans to pick up Ian, Elan plans sequel titles. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0938.html)
939: Blood donation drive set up for Durkon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0939.html)
940: Amun-Zora, Ganji and Enor have a recruitment drive; welcome Ian Starshine. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0940.html)
941: Elan gives Ian his plan for beating Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0941.html)
942: Geoff was working for Bozzok. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0942.html)
943: Julio goes on vacation, leaves his Chaos Sabre to Elan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0943.html)
944: Roy and V discuss the aftermath of Familicide. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0944.html)
945: Laurin telepathically probes Girard's Rift and something horrible lashes out in response. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0945.html)
946: Where Durkon really stands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html)
947: Durkon's Mama saves the day with one hand...er, missing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0947.html)
948: Durkon's internal dialog runs at the speed of lightning (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0948.html)
949: Elan is immersed in his role as backup healer. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0949.html)
950: Vaarsuvius deals with the fire; Blackwing deals with airsickness. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0950.html)
951: Roy is reduced to helping with some piece of rope. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0951.html)
952: Thor is in charge of storms in Northern lands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0952.html)
953: Control Weather is on the standard Cleric spell list. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0953.html)
954: Thor's absolute power is really quite limited, due to some pesky regulations. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0954.html)
955: Thor strikes at the air ship a second time, only to be thwarted by Vaarsuvius and Blackwing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0955.html)
956: Out of the storm and heading to Tinkertown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
957: When confronting "Durkon", Belkar takes a dive. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0957.html)
958: "Durkon" gets some music with his dinner. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0958.html)
959: Haley and Bandana discuss clothing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0959.html)
960: Belkar tells V about Durkon and gets a new magic psionic dagger. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0960.html)
961: Roy eavesdrops to confirm "Durkon's" deity, but fails a Hel of a listen check. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ooots0961.html)
962: Durkon remembers many dinner parties. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0962.html)
963: Durkon Allotrope Thundershield remembers learning when to help, and the "Durkon" doesn’t make the connection. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
964: In need of repair, the Mechane arrives in Tinkertown, gnome steampunk port of call.
965: Haley's haggling skills are a huge time and money saver. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0964.html)
966: Tinkertown shopping list: Teleportation, Resurrection, then brunch. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0966.html)
967: Blackwing's bauble is still shiny, and now useful too! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0967.html)
968: No high-level clerics means "Durkon" dominates the discussion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0968.html)
969: Belkar's search for protection from mental domination shows he's still Evil (but has standards) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0969.html)
970: Haley stocks up on wands, while green-faced trouble looms. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0970.html)
971: Crystal Returns (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0971.html)
972: Crystal is some sort of innovative golem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0972.html)
973: When wands and adamantine arrows don't work - RUN! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
974: Bozzok had Grubwiggler resurrected so he could build Crystal's body into a sentient golem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0974.html)
975: Haley takes flight, Crystal's rampage forces her to back down. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0975.html)
976: Haley will literally throw money at anyone who sells her an adamantine weapon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0976.html)
977: The gnome police intervenes with advanced, but counterproductive weaponry. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0977.html)
978: Crystal is charged up with both lightning and pain. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0978.html)
979: Having understood what happened to Crystal, Haley uses diplomacy to great effect. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0979.html)
980: Grubwiggler leaves Bozzok to his fate at Crystal's hands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0980.html)
981: Haley walks Crystal down to the Tinkertown Municipal Waste Disposal Facility. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0981.html)
982. Durkon breathes again. Kind of. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0982.html)
983: Durkon became a cleric so he could give his mother a hand. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0983.html)
984: "Durkon" knows the gnome cleric knows he knows the gnome knows...someone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0984.html)
985: A neophyte priestess thwarts a vampire's plan. Wait, did I just say "vampire"? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html)
986: Cameo characters Veldrina and Wrecan are on a secret, dumpling-free mission. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0986.html)
987: "Durkon" tricks Roy into finding out when and where the Godsmoot is. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html)
988: Felix the fashion-adviser got everyone winter clothing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html)
989: Veldrina and Wrecan arrive on the Mechane while Mr. Scruffy shows Little Whiskers who's boss. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0989.html)
990: Roy is of two guts about Durkon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0990.html)
991: Uncle Thirden's account of what happened to Sigdi and Tenrin Thundershield. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0991.html)
992: Welcome to Zenith Peak. ! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0992.html)
993: Roy and Belkar are the bodyguards for "Durkon", joining the Godsmoot. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0993.html)
994: "Durkon" reveals himself in secret to gain entry to the Godsmoot. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0993.html)
995: Belkar sees "Durkon" vampirizing the exarch of the Creed of Stone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0995.html#)
996: Belkar's plan to warn Roy goes out the window...literally. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html)
997: Today's ballot: Yea or Nay on destroying the world. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0997.html)
998: Roy: Please give mortals a chance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0998.html)
999: 9-8 don't destroy the world. Next up: Hel votes. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0999.html)
1000: Hel reveals her plan; Roy goes after "Durkon". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1000.html)
1001: Roy multitasks. He can talk and fight "Durkon" simultaneously. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1001.html)
1002: The high priests must let the Roy-"Durkon" fight play out without intervening. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1002.html)
1003: Roy uses his spell-breaking feat effectively, but he believes Durkon converted to Evil. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1003.html)
1004: "Durkon" climbs to the gallery, Roy makes a way to follow by borrowing from Odin's priestess. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1004.html)
1005: "Durkon" turns to mist. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1005.html)
1006: Roy Harmed. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1006.html)
1007: Durkon's worst day ever. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1007.html)
1008: Wrecan doesn't sneak attack; "Durkon" grows up. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1008.html)
1009: Roy finally understands that "Durkon" is not Durkon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1009.html)
1010: Roy's on (green) fire against "Durkon." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1010.html)
1011: "Durkon" blocks Roy with a red barrier. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1011.html)
1012: The demigod vote ties with one uncounted; "Gontor" enters the airship". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1012.html)
1013: Blackwing tries to fight a vampire with empathy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1013.html)
1014: Rats! "Gontor" finds a loophole, steals the Teleportation Orb. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1014.html)
1015: Belkar climbs back up the mountain, only to find more vampires. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1015.html)
1016: Dvalin must consult the elders. Time for the vampires to split. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1016.html)
1017: There's a new High Priestess of Hel. Durkon's body can now leave. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1017.html)
1018: A battle erupts between Roy and the vampires, with priests picking sides. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1018.html)
1019: "Durkon" escapes, along with three thralls. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1019.html)
1020: Blackwing saves the day with a catastrophic scroll misfire (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1020.html)1021: V retrieves Little Whiskers, time to take the tiger to Veldrina (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1021.html)
1022: Roy decides against fighting the new High Priestess of Hel, takes revenge on Malack's staff instead. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1022.html)
1023: Roy's leaving. If the vote is no, Veldrina should contact him. If yes, [I]Send goodbye to a loved one. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1023.html)
Roy learns where to go next, and that Durkon's banishment is lifted (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1024.html)
1025: Wrecan gives Roy his copy of Weapons of Legacy, while paying tribute to his real-life namesake. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1025.html)
1026: Belkar doesn't get to gloat, or defeat even one vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1026.html)
1027: Roy points out Banjo would be unable to vote and is also a puppet. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1027.html)
1028: Gold gets the Mechane's team on board with saving the world. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1028.html)
1029: Durkon's resurrection will have to wait. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1029.html)
1030: To prepare for the fight ahead, the Order attempts to give Durkon* a new name. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1030.html)
1031 - O-Chul always wins in a Paladin-Off (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1031.html)
1032: While sharing memories, O'Chul and Lien are being stalked. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1032.html)
1033: Attack of the Sonic Reptilian Unicorn (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1033.html)
1034: In lieu of an escape plan, keep shooting. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1034.html)
1035: Escape through trapdoor broken ice into frigid waters (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1035.html)
1036: Back with Team Evil, the Monster in the Darkness has a new umbrella. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1036.html)
1037: Oona and Greyview explain the nature of the master-beast relationship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1037.html)
1038: On the bugbears' place in the pan-goblinoid narrative. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1038.html)
1039: Team Evil prepare once more to enter Kraagor's Tomb (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1039.html)
1040: The amazing visual complexity of a Team Evil vs Some Random Monster battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1040.html)
1041: Gate search: MitD's double cross. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1041.html)
1042: Lien and O-Chul are watching Team Evil, awaiting backup. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1042.html)
1043: Belkar needs stakes to fight vampires. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1043.html)
1044: This is the one with a map of Dwarven lands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1044.html)
1045: Eugene returns to find Roy playing with his sword. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1045.html)
1046: Eugene's life regrets: Having spent too much time with his family. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1046.html)
1047: Eugene's solution to his problem: No more world, no more Xykon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1047.html)
1048: Roy convinces Eugene to leave him alone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1048.html)
1049: Roy explains airship physics. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1049.html)
1050: Roy finds out where Xykon is while Elan overlooks a Giant problem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1050.html)1051: Continuing up the pass as Haley becomes pointy death incarnate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1051.html)
1052: V. and Invisible Haley vs the frost giants. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1052.html)
1053: Belkar feather falls into the fray. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1053.html)
1054: Haley and Belkar negotiate teamwork terms. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.html)
1055: The crew is alarmed about the damaged ship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1055.html)
1056: Vaarsuvius and Haley discover the attacking Giants' cleric has Invisibility Purge (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1056.html)
1057: V's Suggestion of peaceful passage isn't inclusive enough. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1057.html)
1058: V counterspells to protect the skyship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1058.html)
1059: Haley and V run away from the giant clerics. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1059.html)
1060: Giants on board. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1060.html)
1061: Roy takes the giants on while Bandana drives the ship forward. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1061.html)
1062: Dissenting, Andi takes Bandana out. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1062.html)
1063: Andi decides to turn off the pass. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1063.html)
1064: Lack of direction leads the Mechane to an impasse. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1064.html)
1065: Elan can't concentrate because his mind's on the clouds. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1065.html)
1066: Bandana wakes up, to a useless conversation with Andi. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1066.html)
1067: Roy kills one giant, but loses his sword. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1067.html)
1068: V, Haley and Belkar regroup, to find they lost the ship. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1068.html)
1069: Elan finally fixes the gas leak, while Roy takes a beating. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1069.html)
1070: Elan heroically swings to the rescue. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1070.html)
1071: Andi turns the ship back, Elan turns the giant the wrong way. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1071.html)
1072: The Mechane is trapped because Andi lacks self-awareness and common sense. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1072.html)
1073: Andi decides to engineer her way out of the problem; the frost giant catches and throws a rock. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1073.html)
1074: Bandana captains her way out of her ropes and the mutiny. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1074.html)
1075: Bandana puts Andi in her place, then teams with Roy to throw the giantess overboard. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1075.html)
1076: The Mechane drops dead weights, weapons, and the matter of the mutiny (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1076.html)
1077: Battle over, now Roy just needs to find his sword, again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1077.html)
1078: Roy retrieves his sword. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1078.html)
DaggerPen
2014-01-12, 11:21 PM
(This post reserved for potential overflow, because we have two books left)
thereaper
2014-01-13, 12:30 AM
Watch. This thread is going to become a race between a few of us to determine who can make a summary for new strips first.
DaggerPen
2014-01-13, 12:30 AM
Almost certainly.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-13, 07:40 AM
Neat. Just quickly browsing through a couple of the spoilers, it's obvious how useful this is.
thereaper
2014-01-14, 01:30 AM
I've already used it.
DaggerPen
2014-01-14, 04:48 PM
938: Haley plans to pick up Ian, Elan plans sequel titles. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0938.html)
thereaper
2014-01-15, 05:27 AM
Curses! You win this round, DaggerPen!
Gwynfrid
2014-01-17, 07:25 AM
938: Blood donation drive set up for Durkon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0939.html)
DaggerPen
2014-01-17, 07:44 AM
Curses! That's what I get for falling asleep early, I suppose. XD Good job, Gwynfrid, I'll add it to the list in 2 shakes.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-17, 09:40 AM
I must say I was astonished when I got up this morning, found a new strip had been on for nearly 3 hours and no one had jumped in here yet :smalltongue:
DaggerPen
2014-01-17, 09:59 AM
Heh. I had that with the last strip, too, though I don't think it'd been up quite as long.
hagnat
2014-01-17, 11:30 AM
you are doing it wrong
you should be using the same pattern they used on Friend's episode names...
The one where Elan becomes insivible
The one with the gender bending belt
The one with a game of go
The one with the acid shark
The one with the acid beetle pie
The one with the gate which no one ever got inside despite the fanbase thinking they would
DaggerPen
2014-01-17, 02:26 PM
I tried to start them all with "in which," but that got vetoed pretty quick.
hagnat
2014-01-17, 03:21 PM
I tried to start them all with "in which," but that got vetoed pretty quick.
the sad moment when a joke is misunderstood for an actual suggestion XD
DaggerPen
2014-01-17, 04:09 PM
My response was meant to be read firmly tongue in cheek. :smalltongue:
Maybe I'm opening a +2 can of worms here...but whats the point of this thread?
Not trying to say this thread is pointless. But would be good to know what the actual purpose is for this thread - is it for funny little observations about strips, coming up with different titles for comic strips, or to summarise key events in each strip?
Because currently it seems like an at-random mixture of the three.
For example (chosen at random while scrolling down the page) --
112 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html) is labelled "Shatter!" which didn't really help me remember what that strip was at the time.
460 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0460.html) is labelled "If only the bars in Miko's jail cell weren't cracked" which doesn't really summarise what happens in the strip, but is more somebody commenting on alternative plots that could have come
605 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html) is labelled "A wild Shojo appears!" which is a reference-filled joke about part of the strip
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html) is labelled "Back in the Desert" which doesn't really let me know what the strip is other than one set in the main setting of that book
902 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0902.html) is labelled "How does Spider-Man fight sand?" which brings new elements in to make a joking comment about a strip
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an index like this in the way its laid out seems to be a way for people to find a strip they had in mind quickly, or to quickly summarise strips in a way that the official titles (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html) don't.
Current I don't really understand the central theme and use of this thread other than to try and be the first to post after each comic is uploaded with an alternative title.
Speaking of which, how does that work with contributing? If I post straight after a new strip do I automatically get mine chosen? If not, how is it chosen? If so, do I get my name on the first post of the thread before the actual content just because I posted one strip title.
Not trying to be a douche or anything - I think a proper summary of the strip would be quite a cool project, but it needs a clear vision, direction and implementation process. If this is meant to be a community contrib thread like the Index of Giants Comments or the MITD thread, then I personally feel there needs to be a bit of discussion round the thread itself.
For example, I think it'd be quite cool to break strips into chunks of story (eg: the Bandit Camp plot, or something wider like the overall quest for starmetal) and have a brief blurb explaining the overall story that occurs in that chunk before listing the strips by number, with their official title and then a forum created bit that explains key points of that strip with a bit of humour where appropriate.
Eg (there's a slight lack of wit in this example :P):
The Hunt for Starmetal: #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) - #188 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html)
The Order are sent to find a piece of starmetal by a disguised Sabine in order to buy the Linear Guild time to enact their latest nefarious plan.
In order to get to the starmetal, they must travel to the centre of Wooden Forest. Along the way they come across a bandit camp, a green hag (or possibly an annis) and an ancient black dragon.
122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) "Adventurers Are Coming! Adventurers Are Coming!" - A small town prepares for the Order's arrival.
123 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123) "Double Your Entendre, Double Your Fun" - The Order rests at an inn while Vaarsuvius inn-spects Haley's gemstones.
124 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0124) "Ding!" - Everybody but Belkar levels up. Belkar hunts Elan to level the playing field.
(etc)
I'm not saying we have to do it that way, I'm just using it as an example of what I feel the purpose of the thread should be.
I raise my vision for the thread not because I feel its better or worse than anybody else's, but because there doesn't seem to have been a discussion about what the overall vision and purpose of this thread is yet.
I think the lack of a clear goal reflects in the wild differences in the nature of the summaries as you read through the initial posts and limits the thread's potential.
Now here's a happy face to end with.
:smile:
DaggerPen
2014-01-17, 11:51 PM
Maybe I'm opening a +2 can of worms here...but whats the point of this thread?
Not trying to say this thread is pointless. But would be good to know what the actual purpose is for this thread - is it for funny little observations about strips, coming up with different titles for comic strips, or to summarise key events in each strip?
Because currently it seems like an at-random mixture of the three.
For example (chosen at random while scrolling down the page) --
112 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html) is labelled "Shatter!" which didn't really help me remember what that strip was at the time.
460 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0460.html) is labelled "If only the bars in Miko's jail cell weren't cracked" which doesn't really summarise what happens in the strip, but is more somebody commenting on alternative plots that could have come
605 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html) is labelled "A wild Shojo appears!" which is a reference-filled joke about part of the strip
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html) is labelled "Back in the Desert" which doesn't really let me know what the strip is other than one set in the main setting of that book
902 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0902.html) is labelled "How does Spider-Man fight sand?" which brings new elements in to make a joking comment about a strip
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an index like this in the way its laid out seems to be a way for people to find a strip they had in mind quickly, or to quickly summarise strips in a way that the official titles (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html) don't.
Current I don't really understand the central theme and use of this thread other than to try and be the first to post after each comic is uploaded with an alternative title.
Speaking of which, how does that work with contributing? If I post straight after a new strip do I automatically get mine chosen? If not, how is it chosen? If so, do I get my name on the first post of the thread before the actual content just because I posted one strip title.
Not trying to be a douche or anything - I think a proper summary of the strip would be quite a cool project, but it needs a clear vision, direction and implementation process. If this is meant to be a community contrib thread like the Index of Giants Comments or the MITD thread, then I personally feel there needs to be a bit of discussion round the thread itself.
For example, I think it'd be quite cool to break strips into chunks of story (eg: the Bandit Camp plot, or something wider like the overall quest for starmetal) and have a brief blurb explaining the overall story that occurs in that chunk before listing the strips by number, with their official title and then a forum created bit that explains key points of that strip with a bit of humour where appropriate.
Eg (there's a slight lack of wit in this example :P):
The Hunt for Starmetal: #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) - #188 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html)
The Order are sent to find a piece of starmetal by a disguised Sabine in order to buy the Linear Guild time to enact their latest nefarious plan.
In order to get to the starmetal, they must travel to the centre of Wooden Forest. Along the way they come across a bandit camp, a green hag (or possibly an annis) and an ancient black dragon.
122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) "Adventurers Are Coming! Adventurers Are Coming!" - A small town prepares for the Order's arrival.
123 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123) "Double Your Entendre, Double Your Fun" - The Order rests at an inn while Vaarsuvius inn-spects Haley's gemstones.
124 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0124) "Ding!" - Everybody but Belkar levels up. Belkar hunts Elan to level the playing field.
(etc)
I'm not saying we have to do it that way, I'm just using it as an example of what I feel the purpose of the thread should be.
I raise my vision for the thread not because I feel its better or worse than anybody else's, but because there doesn't seem to have been a discussion about what the overall vision and purpose of this thread is yet.
I think the lack of a clear goal reflects in the wild differences in the nature of the summaries as you read through the initial posts and limits the thread's potential.
Now here's a happy face to end with.
:smile:
This is some pretty good criticism.
Right now, the main purpose of this thread is to help you when you're trying to find a specific moment, but can't for the life of you remember what strip it was in.
Breaking it up by plot arc is definitely a good idea - if we want to claim certain strip chunks and writing up the plot arc blurbs, I'm totally up for redoing the sectioning.
The current summaries are meant to be one-line/sentence reminders of the general content of the strip. The general idea is to use a memorable moment if possible and just summarize the broad strokes if not. They are to some extent meant to be read with the first five strips before and after them, but some of them are probably a little vague, as this is a compilation of a group effort from another strip, and there was not a proofreading process.
As for crediting - right now, it's first come, first serve, but if someone is dissatisfied with someone else's summary, then as thread maintainer I'd say that they can post their own and we can put it to a vote. And yes, you get your name in the credits if you submit at least one title. If the contributors section starts getting out of hand for even a spoiler, then I'll revise the system, but at the moment I'd like to try to recognize everyone's work.
Basically, while wit is fun, the summary is definitely meant to help find strips, and any changes towards improving that goal are fine by me. I welcome community input, and if there's any serious disagreement, I will abide by a vote.
I will say, I do definitely like the idea of breaking things down by story arc. The only question is - how should the strips be split?
thereaper
2014-01-18, 01:30 AM
Not trying to say this thread is pointless. But would be good to know what the actual purpose is for this thread - is it for funny little observations about strips, coming up with different titles for comic strips, or to summarise key events in each strip?
Because currently it seems like an at-random mixture of the three.
For example (chosen at random while scrolling down the page) --
112 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html) is labelled "Shatter!" which didn't really help me remember what that strip was at the time.
460 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0460.html) is labelled "If only the bars in Miko's jail cell weren't cracked" which doesn't really summarise what happens in the strip, but is more somebody commenting on alternative plots that could have come
605 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html) is labelled "A wild Shojo appears!" which is a reference-filled joke about part of the strip
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html) is labelled "Back in the Desert" which doesn't really let me know what the strip is other than one set in the main setting of that book
902 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0902.html) is labelled "How does Spider-Man fight sand?" which brings new elements in to make a joking comment about a strip
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an index like this in the way its laid out seems to be a way for people to find a strip they had in mind quickly, or to quickly summarise strips in a way that the official titles (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html) don't.
Current I don't really understand the central theme and use of this thread other than to try and be the first to post after each comic is uploaded with an alternative title.
Speaking of which, how does that work with contributing? If I post straight after a new strip do I automatically get mine chosen? If not, how is it chosen? If so, do I get my name on the first post of the thread before the actual content just because I posted one strip title.
Not trying to be a douche or anything - I think a proper summary of the strip would be quite a cool project, but it needs a clear vision, direction and implementation process. If this is meant to be a community contrib thread like the Index of Giants Comments or the MITD thread, then I personally feel there needs to be a bit of discussion round the thread itself.
For example, I think it'd be quite cool to break strips into chunks of story (eg: the Bandit Camp plot, or something wider like the overall quest for starmetal) and have a brief blurb explaining the overall story that occurs in that chunk before listing the strips by number, with their official title and then a forum created bit that explains key points of that strip with a bit of humour where appropriate.
Eg (there's a slight lack of wit in this example :P):
The Hunt for Starmetal: #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) - #188 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html)
The Order are sent to find a piece of starmetal by a disguised Sabine in order to buy the Linear Guild time to enact their latest nefarious plan.
In order to get to the starmetal, they must travel to the centre of Wooden Forest. Along the way they come across a bandit camp, a green hag (or possibly an annis) and an ancient black dragon.
122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) "Adventurers Are Coming! Adventurers Are Coming!" - A small town prepares for the Order's arrival.
123 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123) "Double Your Entendre, Double Your Fun" - The Order rests at an inn while Vaarsuvius inn-spects Haley's gemstones.
124 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0124) "Ding!" - Everybody but Belkar levels up. Belkar hunts Elan to level the playing field.
(etc)
I'm not saying we have to do it that way, I'm just using it as an example of what I feel the purpose of the thread should be.
I raise my vision for the thread not because I feel its better or worse than anybody else's, but because there doesn't seem to have been a discussion about what the overall vision and purpose of this thread is yet.
I think the lack of a clear goal reflects in the wild differences in the nature of the summaries as you read through the initial posts and limits the thread's potential.
Now here's a happy face to end with.
:smile:
Why can't it be all three? The overall purpose is to help people find a given strip (and if one can make it humorous, all the better). The best way to do that is to note the most memorable parts of it. The most memorable part of 112 is the shattering of Roy's sword. 460 is the only strip where the bars on Miko's cell are cracked, so any reference whatsoever to them being cracked tells the reader what strip it is. 605 is literally just Shojo's appearance to Belkar. 834 has a weak title, but that's because the strip doesn't really have anything happen except show our heroes back in the desert. 902 references a question which could only be relevant to one specific strip.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 10:18 AM
Maybe I'm opening a +2 can of worms here...but whats the point of this thread?
Not trying to say this thread is pointless. But would be good to know what the actual purpose is for this thread - is it for funny little observations about strips, coming up with different titles for comic strips, or to summarise key events in each strip?
Because currently it seems like an at-random mixture of the three.
For example (chosen at random while scrolling down the page) --
112 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0112.html) is labelled "Shatter!" which didn't really help me remember what that strip was at the time.
460 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0460.html) is labelled "If only the bars in Miko's jail cell weren't cracked" which doesn't really summarise what happens in the strip, but is more somebody commenting on alternative plots that could have come
605 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html) is labelled "A wild Shojo appears!" which is a reference-filled joke about part of the strip
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html) is labelled "Back in the Desert" which doesn't really let me know what the strip is other than one set in the main setting of that book
902 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0902.html) is labelled "How does Spider-Man fight sand?" which brings new elements in to make a joking comment about a strip
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an index like this in the way its laid out seems to be a way for people to find a strip they had in mind quickly, or to quickly summarise strips in a way that the official titles (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html) don't.
Current I don't really understand the central theme and use of this thread other than to try and be the first to post after each comic is uploaded with an alternative title.
Speaking of which, how does that work with contributing? If I post straight after a new strip do I automatically get mine chosen? If not, how is it chosen? If so, do I get my name on the first post of the thread before the actual content just because I posted one strip title.
Not trying to be a douche or anything - I think a proper summary of the strip would be quite a cool project, but it needs a clear vision, direction and implementation process. If this is meant to be a community contrib thread like the Index of Giants Comments or the MITD thread, then I personally feel there needs to be a bit of discussion round the thread itself.
For example, I think it'd be quite cool to break strips into chunks of story (eg: the Bandit Camp plot, or something wider like the overall quest for starmetal) and have a brief blurb explaining the overall story that occurs in that chunk before listing the strips by number, with their official title and then a forum created bit that explains key points of that strip with a bit of humour where appropriate.
Eg (there's a slight lack of wit in this example :P):
The Hunt for Starmetal: #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) - #188 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html)
The Order are sent to find a piece of starmetal by a disguised Sabine in order to buy the Linear Guild time to enact their latest nefarious plan.
In order to get to the starmetal, they must travel to the centre of Wooden Forest. Along the way they come across a bandit camp, a green hag (or possibly an annis) and an ancient black dragon.
122 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122) "Adventurers Are Coming! Adventurers Are Coming!" - A small town prepares for the Order's arrival.
123 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123) "Double Your Entendre, Double Your Fun" - The Order rests at an inn while Vaarsuvius inn-spects Haley's gemstones.
124 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0124) "Ding!" - Everybody but Belkar levels up. Belkar hunts Elan to level the playing field.
(etc)
I'm not saying we have to do it that way, I'm just using it as an example of what I feel the purpose of the thread should be.
I raise my vision for the thread not because I feel its better or worse than anybody else's, but because there doesn't seem to have been a discussion about what the overall vision and purpose of this thread is yet.
I think the lack of a clear goal reflects in the wild differences in the nature of the summaries as you read through the initial posts and limits the thread's potential.
Now here's a happy face to end with.
:smile:
This is solid and constructive feedback, thanks.
As DaggerPen already explained, the somewhat inconsistent style of the summaries is due to the way the contributions were originally gathered: There was a lot of work to be done, so anybody was welcome to contribute and their inputs were taken in the order that they arrived, or the order they called dibs on a section of the comic (check out the original thread if you want to witness the very lightweight, spontaneous process). The point you made was raised in a slightly different form: Somebody criticized my own summaries for being too cryptic and unhelpful as a summary. I thought the point was valid, so I edited my work to make it more straightforward.
Now, I agree with you and with DaggerPen. Now that the initial groundwork has been done, it is useful and fair to establish a more rigorous process so that this continues to be a collaborative work from the forum. The Giant's comments thread is an excellent example of such a thing, and that's what makes it helpful. We can and should emulate that spirit over here.
Why can't it be all three?
Yes it can. However, I think we need to agree on priorities. In my view, the practical aspect trumps the humor or the creativity. The primary goal is to make it easy to find a given strip, for as many users as possible. If the summary can be hilarious as well, that's a bonus, but this shouldn't be at the expense of usefulness. If we agree on that, then we will be able to find a consensus as to what the best wording ought to be.
Since DaggerPen is volunteering to modify the OP with proposed improvements, and even to referee any disagreement by way of a vote (thanks!), I propose that we begin to think of an editing process. Some initial thoughts:
1) We first establish a consensus on the summary's goals and priorities (I think we're close to that already) and that is written down in the OP. By the way, I think the OP should make it clear that the entire thread is a giant spoiler for the OOTS storyline, and is intended for use only by people who have already read the whole comic.
2) Anybody can propose a rewording of a summary.
3) If the proposal is seconded by a X number of posters, it is up for consideration as a replacement summary.
4) If nobody shows up in opposition, the rewording is accepted. We should allow for a decent minimum amount of time (a week?) before the change is made.
5) If there is a disagreement, a vote is in order.
6) I would recommend we skew the process in favor of conservatism, ie we should err in favor of keeping summaries as they are. This is in order to a) respect the initial contributors' work, b) avoid back and forth changes and c) contain DaggerPen's editing workload to as low a level as possible. So, I suggest a change would require a minimal number of opinions in favor, as well as a sort of supermajority (for example at least 5 Ayes, and a 60% majority).
Finally: I like the idea of sorting the strips by story chunks, as opposed to blocks of 100s. It makes a ton of sense.
DaggerPen
2014-01-18, 01:22 PM
1) We first establish a consensus on the summary's goals and priorities (I think we're close to that already) and that is written down in the OP. By the way, I think the OP should make it clear that the entire thread is a giant spoiler for the OOTS storyline, and is intended for use only by people who have already read the whole comic.
Good idea - I think the spoiler bit is probably reasonably evident, but I'll add it just in case.
2) Anybody can propose a rewording of a summary.
3) If the proposal is seconded by a X number of posters, it is up for consideration as a replacement summary.
4) If nobody shows up in opposition, the rewording is accepted. We should allow for a decent minimum amount of time (a week?) before the change is made.
5) If there is a disagreement, a vote is in order.
6) I would recommend we skew the process in favor of conservatism, ie we should err in favor of keeping summaries as they are. This is in order to a) respect the initial contributors' work, b) avoid back and forth changes and c) contain DaggerPen's editing workload to as low a level as possible. So, I suggest a change would require a minimal number of opinions in favor, as well as a sort of supermajority (for example at least 5 Ayes, and a 60% majority).
I'm good with the rest of these rules. If there's no major disagreements, I'll add these voting rules to the summary. (I think thread contributors are technically agreed to just decide on their own voting rules anyway, but while the thread's still small I may as well see if we can get a consensus.)
Finally: I like the idea of sorting the strips by story chunks, as opposed to blocks of 100s. It makes a ton of sense.
I think the first key here is to identify the different storylines. I know The Giant breaks the dead tree form compilations down into rounds, which may be a good place to start, but unless we have all the books between us and are willing to wait on the final one, that's not going to be the be-all, end-all.
In that vein, I suggest first tackling it book by book. Ipropose the following breakdown for the first book (sans summaries for now):
1-42: Gag a day era
43-71: Linear Guild meetup and fight
72-85: Durkon and Hilgya team-up, Church of Banjo
86-104: Tracking Xykon with the help of rebellious teenagers
105-115: The Xykon Fight
116-120: Escaping from the Castle of Dorukan
ChristianSt
2014-01-18, 01:51 PM
1) We first establish a consensus on the summary's goals and priorities (I think we're close to that already) and that is written down in the OP. By the way, I think the OP should make it clear that the entire thread is a giant spoiler for the OOTS storyline, and is intended for use only by people who have already read the whole comic.
2) Anybody can propose a rewording of a summary.
3) If the proposal is seconded by a X number of posters, it is up for consideration as a replacement summary.
4) If nobody shows up in opposition, the rewording is accepted. We should allow for a decent minimum amount of time (a week?) before the change is made.
5) If there is a disagreement, a vote is in order.
6) I would recommend we skew the process in favor of conservatism, ie we should err in favor of keeping summaries as they are. This is in order to a) respect the initial contributors' work, b) avoid back and forth changes and c) contain DaggerPen's editing workload to as low a level as possible. So, I suggest a change would require a minimal number of opinions in favor, as well as a sort of supermajority (for example at least 5 Ayes, and a 60% majority).
Finally: I like the idea of sorting the strips by story chunks, as opposed to blocks of 100s. It makes a ton of sense.
I agree that this project should keep a focus - this was somewhat addressed in the old thread, too, but TDG illustrated it much better than it was done there.
The idea of your proposals is good imo. But I think I would like to cut any needed initiated voting to a minimum. For this I would to it that way:
Every one can propose a rewording. A "voting process" is automatically started by this (without anyone needing to say anything).
Every forumite can just say which one they prefer.
After "end" of voting the winner will get in. If we want to favor the old one, than I would say the challenger needs to win the vote at least with X votes more than the champion. I would use X=2 for this [so that if someone proposes, someone agrees, nobody opposes the new vote is in. It should make maintaining easier, too - since if no one else had said something on it, DaggerPan can just do what she wants (vote yes to add it, vote no to stay with the old).]
Figuring out when to "end" the vote is probably the hardest part. I see three possibilities right now, which can be combined if needed:
After proposing a quote, there is a fixed time window. For example after 1 week after proposing the result is fixed.
After some amount of inactivity the vote is closed. For example if in three days nobody has voted, the vote is done.
If the challenger or champions have a certain number of votes more than the other. For example if a quote has 5 more supporters than the other, the vote is finished early.
I'm not sure which numbers/method is best suited. For easy of usage I would probably just use "one week after suggesting a new quote, the vote for it is closed".
In the end it should do basically the same thing you want, but when we establish this, there is no need for anyone to say "A vote is in order, lets start it now". We would just have a passive mechanic that clearly outlines which summary gets added [we could certainly make special exceptions if needed, too].
For chunking the strips in other batches than x01-Y00:
I like the idea. I would personally just use the Rounds used for the books (they collect around 10-50 strips each). I would do this, because there is no need to argue about them - only disadvantage is we need to improvise for the current book, since without the book we don't know how the Rounds are finalized. [I can also post that if we agree on it]
Edit: To the crediting system: I personally would just list all contributors (I would do alphabetically. Another easy system would be just appending each new contributor ad the end of that list), without saying who did which summary. It makes maintaining easier, and it would be possible to credit someone who did somehow managed to get all his summaries replaced [or you have credits going from one strip number to multiple persons, which is imo strange]
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 02:58 PM
The idea of your proposals is good imo. But I think I would like to cut any needed initiated voting to a minimum. For this I would to it that way:
Every one can propose a rewording. A "voting process" is automatically started by this (without anyone needing to say anything).
Every forumite can just say which one they prefer.
After "end" of voting the winner will get in. If we want to favor the old one, than I would say the challenger needs to win the vote at least with X votes more than the champion. I would use X=2 for this [so that if someone proposes, someone agrees, nobody opposes the new vote is in. It should make maintaining easier, too - since if no one else had said something on it, DaggerPan can just do what she wants (vote yes to add it, vote no to stay with the old).]
Figuring out when to "end" the vote is probably the hardest part. I see three possibilities right now, which can be combined if needed:
After proposing a quote, there is a fixed time window. For example after 1 week after proposing the result is fixed.
After some amount of inactivity the vote is closed. For example if in three days nobody has voted, the vote is done.
If the challenger or champions have a certain number of votes more than the other. For example if a quote has 5 more supporters than the other, the vote is finished early.
I'm not sure which numbers/method is best suited. For easy of usage I would probably just use "one week after suggesting a new quote, the vote for it is closed".
In the end it should do basically the same thing you want, but when we establish this, there is no need for anyone to say "A vote is in order, lets start it now". We would just have a passive mechanic that clearly outlines which summary gets added [we could certainly make special exceptions if needed, too].
I understand the intent, and I agree it makes it lighter. However I think it makes it way too easy to enact changes. You just need 1 person to propose, 1 to approve and no reaction by others for a week, then it's done. If folks start proposing a lot of things while not reacting strongly to others' proposals then it will quickly become overwhelming. I suggest tweaking your mechanic so it becomes a little more difficult to change. Also, I figure people will not always just vote Aye or Nay:
1) Every one can propose a rewording. A voting period is automatically started by this.
2) The vote lasts 1 week starting from the moment the initial proposal was made.
3) During the voting period, every forumite can make other proposals to reword, or just say which one they prefer.
4) At the end of the voting period, if one proposal has gathered a minimum of 5 votes AND 60% of all votes, it is adopted. Otherwise the wording remains unchanged.
5) People can change their votes during the process (this allows for a consensus to form around a new idea).
6) DaggerPen is in charge of declaring the voting period closed, counting the votes, and updating the summary. She can extend the voting period as she sees fit (this may be needed if fresh proposals appear close to the end of the voting period, for example).
EDIT about grouping of strips: I have all books, so I could, if that's your preference, just copy the Giant's organization into rounds over here (I don't think Jones & Rodriguez would go after me for that). But I think this isn't the best solution. For one thing, the rounds' titles are pretty much like the strips' titles: Not always very explicit. I'd rather recommend we come up with our own chapters.
DaggerPen
2014-01-18, 03:14 PM
1) Every one can propose a rewording. A voting period is automatically started by this.
2) The vote lasts 1 week starting from the moment the initial proposal was made.
3) During the voting period, every forumite can make other proposals to reword, or just say which one they prefer.
4) At the end of the voting period, if one proposal has gathered a minimum of 5 votes AND 60% of all votes, it is adopted. Otherwise the wording remains unchanged.
5) People can change their votes during the process (this allows for a consensus to form around a new idea).
6) DaggerPen is in charge of declaring the voting period closed, counting the votes, and updating the summary. She can extend the voting period as she sees fit (this may be needed if fresh proposals appear close to the end of the voting period, for example).
Good point about possible multiple suggestions coming up. If we do get multiple rival suggestions, I think I'll take a page out of Grey_Wolf's book and go for the alternate vote system (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3Y3 jE3B8HsE&ei=i-DaUumYGYPMsQSioIK4BA&usg=AFQjCNExoKgh8msptsbT57rBgK_eqkWsuw&sig2=4XY_MvCYKPSc8k_NAOfMOg&bvm=bv.59568121,d.cWc), since that isn't too complicated and allows for instant runoffs.
EDIT about grouping of strips: I have all books, so I could, if that's your preference, just copy the Giant's organization into rounds over here (I don't think Jones & Rodriguez would go after me for that). But I think this isn't the best solution. For one thing, the rounds' titles are pretty much like the strips' titles: Not always very explicit. I'd rather recommend we come up with our own chapters.
I would be very interested in the rounds breakdown! We can come up with our own names for description, but it's just a good grouping strategy. We can just wing it re: the newest book and adjust once it's actually released.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 03:24 PM
I would be very interested in the rounds breakdown! We can come up with our own names for description, but it's just a good grouping strategy. We can just wing it re: the newest book and adjust once it's actually released.
OK, I'll post that asap (ie in the evening), unless someone does it first.
ChristianSt
2014-01-18, 03:25 PM
I understand the intent, and I agree it makes it lighter. However I think it makes it way too easy to enact changes. You just need 1 person to propose, 1 to approve and no reaction by others for a week, then it's done. If folks start proposing a lot of things while not reacting strongly to others' proposals then it will quickly become overwhelming. I suggest tweaking your mechanic so it becomes a little more difficult to change. Also, I figure people will not always just vote Aye or Nay:
1) Every one can propose a rewording. A voting period is automatically started by this.
2) The vote lasts 1 week starting from the moment the initial proposal was made.
3) During the voting period, every forumite can make other proposals to reword, or just say which one they prefer.
4) At the end of the voting period, if one proposal has gathered a minimum of 5 votes AND 60% of all votes, it is adopted. Otherwise the wording remains unchanged.
5) People can change their votes during the process (this allows for a consensus to form around a new idea).
6) DaggerPen is in charge of declaring the voting period closed, counting the votes, and updating the summary. She can extend the voting period as she sees fit (this may be needed if fresh proposals appear close to the end of the voting period, for example).
I personally don't see a problem that a change is easy done, especially when nobody opposes it (It might be that 1 week is to short [which I don't think so] - but in that case I would rather change the duration, maybe 10 days or even 2 weeks?).
And even with the numbers I suggested, even 2 "yes" and 0 "no" can be turned down by DaggerPen - since she should have a normal vote like everyone else (but I think she isn't required to post it in the thread if she doesn't want to, just to reduce the clutter).
And if this really turns out to be problematic, we can change it later to require more. I personally don't want to cement the list as it is, because I think if we can improve it, we should allow it to get improved.
I like the addendum of additional proposals during the first.
But I wouldn't allow additional proposals and requiring 5 votes and 60% votes. It would favoring the current summary way too much - especially if there are multiple proposals (and I'm not sure if 5 minimum votes is way to high).
For example, currently the Summary is 'A'. Someone proposes 'B'. Another one dislikes the wording a bit and wants 'b'. Yet another forumite likes 'C'. After the vote is finished and tallied up 1 vote are for 'A', 10 for 'B', 3 for 'b', and 5 for 'C'. Personally I think clearly that vote shows we should replace 'A' with 'B', yet it has only achieved around 52% (also I needed a calculator to check what the exact result is! (I was confident it is <60%, but not sure enough to not check it)). Yes I now that is an extreme case, but if there are more proposals than it is pretty easy to not get a majority.
Needing only more votes than another proposal makes it much easier to avoid such situation (and if we want to favor old summaries, than it is easy to say "a new summary needs X more votes than the old"). And we only need to count the vote - no need to calculate some numbers. (Ok, normally it should be rather easy to judge whether it is greater or less than 60% - but since we need to count it either way, way just don't use the count directly?)
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 03:35 PM
ChristianSt: My proposition might be too skewed against change, but yours is, in my opinion, going a little too far in the other direction. Before I debate you further, however, I will let others chime in.
ChristianSt
2014-01-18, 04:11 PM
ChristianSt: My proposition might be too skewed against change, but yours is, in my opinion, going a little too far in the other direction. Before I debate you further, however, I will let others chime in.
Yeah - no need to argue further. We have different views how this should be approached. And without further peoples chiming in, we wouldn't get this resolved anyway. [Another worry I have that there aren't that many folks interesting in voting, and with such high numbers no change is possible]
Here is the Round organization from the Books. I purged the original titles, just to err on the side of caution. Also, while they are quite funny, they are similar to the strip titles content-wise (so if we want this to be informative new titles might be better suited anyway).
(1-121) Dungeon Crawlin' Fools
(Bonus) Round 1
(1-32/34-43) Round 2
*33 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 2
(44-72) Round 3
(73-85) Round 4
(86-120) Round 5
*121 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 5
(122-301) No Cure for the Paladin Blues
(122-149) Round 1
(150-174) Round 2
(175-189) Round 3
(190-197) Round 4
(198-223) Round 5
(224-251) Round 6
(252-258) Round 7
*259 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 7
(260-288) Round 8
(289-298) Round 9
(299-301) Epilogue
(302-484) War and XPs
(302-320) Round 1
(321-338) Round 2
(339-367) Round 3
(368-376) Round 4
(377-400) Round 5
(401-411) Round 6
(412-466) Round 7
(467-484) Round 8
(485-672) Don't Split the Party
(485-500) Round 1
(501-540) Round 2
(541-550) Round 3
(551-581) Round 4
(582-599) Round 5
(600-622) Round 6
(623-642) Round 7
(643-662) Round 8
(663-672) Round 9
(673+) Book 5
(673-698) Round 1?
(699-709) Round 2?
(710-774) Round 3?
(775-822) Round 4?
(823-833) Round 5?
(834-899) Round 6?
(900-936) Round 7?
(937+) Round 8?
Book 5 are purely guesses by me - I have no clue (and some of them are rather large chunks), but I have no idea where to separate them. Also I think we shouldn't use the Book 5 title here before it gets publicly announced.
The intermezzos are rather odd: They don't appear in the normal strip order, but are at the end of the book in an "extra" section (with some bonus material)
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 06:17 PM
Yeah - no need to argue further. We have different views how this should be approached. And without further peoples chiming in, we wouldn't get this resolved anyway. [Another worry I have that there aren't that many folks interesting in voting, and with such high numbers no change is possible]
Hmm, that's a very valid point. I was basing my thinking on what I see happening on the Giant's comments thread, where there are quite a few opinionated people (I mean this in a good way, but if we have the same numbers over here, we will soon face a glut of changes unless the rules make it difficult). However, if we have few voters then the bar should be set lower. Maybe we could try using your voting rules at first. If we don't see too many more commentators here then we could stay that way. If we see more people come and voice an opinion, then we can always revise the rules.
DaggerPen
2014-01-18, 06:22 PM
I think that I will again take a page out of Grey_Wolf's book and go with the "two positive votes" rule, meaning that each vote for replacement counts as one positive vote, and each vote to keep it counts as one negative vote. So if someone proposes a new summary, I agree and the original summary writer does not comment, it will be replaced; if someone proposes one, I agree, and the original summary writer disagrees, it requires at least one more person to support it to be changed; if someone proposes one, I have no opinion and the original summary writer agrees, it will be changed; if someone proposes one, I have no opinion, the original writer doesn't chime in and someone else supports it, it gets changed; et cetera, et cetera. If we start getting a larger audience, I'll bump up the number of positive votes required. Multiple suggestions will be held according to the aforementioned alternate vote system. The default voting period is a week unless otherwise specified for whatever reason.
That sound good to everyone?
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 06:38 PM
I think that I will again take a page out of Grey_Wolf's book and go with the "two positive votes" rule, meaning that each vote for replacement counts as one positive vote, and each vote to keep it counts as one negative vote. So if someone proposes a new summary, I agree and the original summary writer does not comment, it will be replaced; if someone proposes one, I agree, and the original summary writer disagrees, it requires at least one more person to support it to be changed; if someone proposes one, I have no opinion and the original summary writer agrees, it will be changed; if someone proposes one, I have no opinion, the original writer doesn't chime in and someone else supports it, it gets changed; et cetera, et cetera. If we start getting a larger audience, I'll bump up the number of positive votes required. Multiple suggestions will be held according to the aforementioned alternate vote system. The default voting period is a week unless otherwise specified for whatever reason.
That sound good to everyone?
Yes, I'm fine with that.
ChristianSt
2014-01-18, 07:59 PM
That sound good to everyone?
Seems fine to me.
On another note: I would move the "Spoiler warning" to the first post [Or just cut it - it should be pretty clear that a "Summary" might spoiler some of the content it summarizes]. And since it should be damn obvious (so obvious that it doesn't hurt to add just a little mockery to it) I would write it like this:
"Only that nobody can say I haven't warned you, hereby you are warned: This thread will contain spoilers!"
DaggerPen
2014-01-18, 08:28 PM
Voting rules have been added, spoiler warning has been moved to first post.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-18, 09:46 PM
Cool. Now, as a way to test if this works, let me make one change proposal.
I'm not keen on this one:
571: He gets better. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
It's very hard to grasp who this might be referring to, as it refers to something Roy will say many strips later. Context in the preceding or following few entries doesn't help much since it doesn't directly mention the Oracle's death.
So, I suggest this:
571: The Oracle gets better : Roy finally finds a living being to talk to. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-01-18, 09:49 PM
I vote for the new entry.
ChristianSt
2014-01-19, 11:13 AM
Cool. Now, as a way to test if this works, let me make one change proposal.
I'm not keen on this one:
571: He gets better. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
It's very hard to grasp who this might be referring to, as it refers to something Roy will say many strips later. Context in the preceding or following few entries doesn't help much since it doesn't directly mention the Oracle's death.
So, I suggest this:
571: The Oracle gets better : Roy finally finds a living being to talk to. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
Much better than the original one (only thing that bugs me is the space before the colon, I would remove it), but I would propose a even more precise one:
571: The Oracle gets revived and reveals he can hear Roy. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html)
(so from an alternate voting standpoint I would vote mine first, then Gwynfrid's one)
And here are proposed summaries for the books/rounds
(1-121) Dungeon Crawlin' Fools: The Order of the Stick manages to destroy Xykon (thinking for good) and to blow up the Dungeon of Dorukan afterwards.
*Round 1 introduces the Order and is only bonus material, so probably we shouldn't add it, the question if we start with Round 2 (or if we discard the Round-numbers completely)
(1-32/34-43) Round 2: The Order advances through the first few levels of the Dungeon of Dorukan.
*33 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 2
(44-72) Round 3: The Order meets the Linear Guild, a bunch of evil opposites around Elan's twin Nale and defeats them.
(73-85) Round 4: Durkon and Hilgya get lost together and get closer. After hearing Higya's past Durkon dismisses her and returns to the Order.
(86-120) Round 5: The Order finally can locate Xykon and luckily defeat him in the showdown, while Roy's sword gets shattered. They think Xykon is destroyed for good and Elan blows up the castle by activating the self destruction.
*121 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 5
(122-301) No Cure for the Paladin Blues: The Order get imprisoned through Miko, get dragged to Azure City and learn that Xykon is still alive and that the world is in danger because of the Gates.
(122-149) Round 1: They arrive in a small town to cash in some of their rewards and level up. The Linear Guild tricks Roy to do a sidequest to retrieve some starmetal to reforge his sword. Team Evil emerges again and start recruiting some Hobgoblins.
(150-174) Round 2: While looking for the starmetal, Elan gets captured by bandits. Roy initially doesn't want to help the others to rescue Elan, but after some time he follows them and they manage to defeat the bandits.
(175-189) Round 3: They finally locate the starmetal. Before retrieving it Vaarsuvius temporally gets turned into a lizard and desintegrates the Young Adult Black Dragon living in the cave.
(190-197) Round 4: Team Evil arrives at their old base. We learn about the five Gates. Opening any one is the key to conquer the world, but Dorukan's and Lirian's Gate are destroyed and Xykon needs to decipher the other locations from Serini's diary.
(198-223) Round 5: Miko Miyazaki finally finds the Order and has the order to arrest them and bring them to Azure City in the Southern lands for a trial. The Order resist first, but agree that they want to find more and travel along with Miko.
(224-251) Round 6: They stay at an inn alongside the road, where through some mixup assassins try to kill Roy. Roy escape this by donning the Belt of Gender-Changing, but in the aftermath the inn explodes, including the treasure they have collected thus far. Haley takes this pretty bad and can only speak gibberish that nobody can understand. They finally resist Miko, but she manages to overpower them and drags them in chains going forward.
(252-258) Round 7: The Linear Guild makes a plan to revenge their defeat and recruit some new replacement members. They luckily find Julia Greenhilt, Roy's sister, and kidnap her.
*259 comes technically after the end of the book - I would personally add it to Round 7
(260-288) Round 8: The Order finally arrives in Azure City. During the trial they learn about the Gates and the Order of the Scribble. The Order is found not guilty but Belkar manages to kill a Guard and gets nearly killed himself by Miko, who prays that she is the one who can kill the Order of the Stick, in her eyes agents of evil.
(289-298) Round 9: Lord Shojo reveals to the Order that he has tricked all by faking to be crazy, that he works with Roy's father Eugene and that he wants the Order to investigate the status of the other Gates, since two are destroyed already. Eugene reveals that Xykon is in fact not destroyed. The Order agrees to work with Shojo and Belkar is punished with the Mark of Justice, a curse that gets activated when he kills a living being inside a city or town or is to far away from Roy.
(299-301) Epilogue: Team Evil plans to conquer Soon's Gate next, which is located in Azure City.
(302-484) War and XPs: Team Evil invades Azure City, but Soon's Gate is destroyed. Roy dies and the Order gets separated in two groups.
(302-320) Round 1: During the New Year celebrations Roy gets closer to Celia. Haley learns that her gibberish is probably caused by too many secrets she keeps for herself, but can't confess her love for Elan.
(321-338) Round 2: They go to the Oracle to learn where Xykon strikes next. Roy manages to dismiss Azure City as a possible answer and the Oracle says the next Gate Xykon shows up is Girard's Gate. Before they go back to Azure City Nale contacts them that Julia is his hostage in Cliffport.
(339-367) Round 3: Shojo's wizard teleports the Order to Cliffport, where they manage to rescue Julio. Nale plans succeed, he planed to switch position with Elan, who gets thrown into prison alongside Thog.
(368-376) Round 4: Miko is on the way back to Azure City and learns that Xykon is going in the same direction.
(377-400) Round 5: Just in last minute before Nale can kill Haley, Elan arrives with help of Julio Scoundrél. They manage to defeat the Linear Guild once again while Haley finally is able to confess her love for Elan and can talk normally again.
(401-411) Round 6: Miko and Hinjo learn that Shojo is only faking to be crazy. Miko snaps and kills Shojo, falling for it. Hinjo reveals that Soon's Gate is the gem inside the throne room in Azure City.
(412-466) Round 7: The Battle of Azure City: Roy dies and Soon's Gate is destroyed through Miko, who gets killed afterwards.
(467-484) Round 8: Durkon, Elan and Vaarsuvius retreat with the remaining Azure City survivors, while Belkar and Haley stay in Azure City with Roy's corpse.
(485-672) Don't Split the Party: The Order struggles while being separated, before they finally managing to get reunited an resurrect their leader.
(485-500) Round 1: Roy spends three and a half month dead, before trying to find out why he didn't get resurrected earlier.
(501-540) Round 2: Vaarsuvius fails in locating Haley and Belkar, while Haley supports the Resistance in Azure City. After accidentally summoning Celia, she tells them about Cloister and they decide to leave Azure City with Mr. Scruffy.
(541-550) Round 3: The captured O-Chul endures all kind of torture and befriends himself with the Monster in the Darkness.
(551-581) Round 4: Kabuto tries to let Hinjo assassinated. Haley and Belkar visit the Oracle, who is killed by Belkar, triggering the Mark of Justice. They travel further to Greysky, where Haley was a former member of the Thieves' Guild and Celia loses Roy's corpse, which gets animated to a Bone Golem.
(582-599) Round 5: After desintegrating the captured Kabuto a trance-deprived Vaarsuvius leaves the fleet.
(600-622) Round 6: Belkar's curse get removes and Celia manages to turn the Thieves' Guild ambush into a truce and to retrieve Roy's corpse.
(623-642) Round 7: An Adult Black Dragon finds Vaarsuvius to get revenge for her child. To prevent his/her family from being killed and their souls imprisoned by the dragon, Vaarsuvius sells (a time of) his/her soul to the IFCC to gain a temporary Soul Splice. The Soul-spliced Vaarsuvius deploys Familicide to kill a massive amount of Black Dragons related to the Adult Black Dragon.
(643-662) Round 8: After the Order reunites, Vaarsuvius is going to kill Xykon. Despite failing horrible, she and O-Chul manages to throw Xykon's phylactery into the sewers, before the Monster in the Darkness saves them.
(663-672) Round 9: Roy is resurrected and they travel to the Western Continent. Blackwing shares with Vaarsuvius that there is a world inside the rift.
(673+) Book 5: The Order finds Girard's Gate and destroys it.
(673-698)? Round 1?: The Order learn that the coordinates given to them point not to Girard's Gate.
(699-709)? Round 2?: Gobbotopia is founded.
(710-774)? Round 3?: The Order arrive in Bleedingham/The Empire of Blood, where Elan meets his father Tarquin, while Belkar and Roy gets imprisoned as gladiators and meet Ian, Haley's father. Durkon befriends with Malack.
(775-822)? Round 4?: During the celebrations for Elan, the Linear Guild shows up once again. The Order wins yet again and Tarquin helps them to get to Windy Canyon, where the Draketooth Clan should be located, before he teams up with Nale to go after them.
(823-833)? Round 5?: The phylactery is found, the Resistance get crushed by Redloak. Tsukiko get killed by Redcloak, for revealing that his plan doesn't help Xykon at all, but only helps the Dark One to threaten other Gods.
(834-898)? Round 6?: They arrive at Windy Canyon and find the pyramid used by the now deceased Draketooth Clan. Vaarsuvius realizes he/she killed the Draketooths with Familicide and get lost in the pyramid. Malack kills and turns Durkon into a Vampire. The Order manages to locate the Gate and the decides to blow it up yet again. Vaarsuvius tries to stop it, but the IFCC prevents that.
(899-936)? Round 7?: Team Evil shows up just in time to see the Gate explode. They instantly head towards Kraagor's Gate. Tarquin tries to kill the Order but Julio shows up and Tarquin is lost in the desert.
(937+)? Round 8?: The Order travels in direction Dwarven lands.
I hope I managed to get not to many typos in there, so feel free to point out any errors (or other improvement). It is certainly possible that there is a better round-division of book 5, but I couldn't really find nice spots to split the rounds.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-19, 01:35 PM
Much better than the original one (only thing that bugs me is the space before the colon, I would remove it)
Ah, sorry about that. Typographic standards in my native language mandate a space before the colon, but there isn't one in English and this always trips me up.
As for your round-level summaries, they are very accurate, but they don't need to be this long. The individual strip summaries will come just below these, and provide all the necessary detail.
I propose the following:
- Just keep the book titles, we don't need a summary at this level.
- Discard the round numbers, they aren't useful and can get odd with the inclusion of bonus material.
- Keep the order as in the online comic, even when the books alter it.
- Shorter summaries below:
Book1 (1-121) Dungeon Crawlin' Fools
(1-43) Exploring the Dungeon of Dorukan.
(44-72) Meeting the Linear Guild.
(73-85) Durkon's short-lived romance and Banjo's short-lived godhood.
(86-121) Xykon found, Durokan's Gate blown up.
Book 2 (122-301) No Cure for the Paladin Blues
(122-149) Sidequest for starmetal.
(150-174) Battling bandits.
(175-189) Lizard V defeats Young Adult Black Dragon.
(190-197) Team Evil recovers.
(198-223) Order arrested by Miko, finds time to help some dirt farmers.
(224-251) Inn blown up along with treasure, Haley speechless.
(252-258) Linear Guild kidnaps Julia.
(259-288) Order on trial in Azure City.
(289-298) Roy accepts Shojo's "job offer".
(299-301) Team Evil on their way to Azure City.
Book 3 (302-484) War and XPs
(302-320) New Year's Day romances have varied success.
(321-338) The Oracle of Sunken Valley.
(339-367) Nale's Cliffport trap.
(368-376) Miko meets Team Evil.
(377-400) Elan meets Julio Scoundrél, saves the day, gets the girl.
(401-411) Miko's Fall.
(412-466) The Battle of Azure City.
(467-484) The Order is split.
Book 4 (485-672) Don't Split the Party
(501-540) Haley, Resistance Leader.
(541-550) Endurant O'Chul makes MitD a friend.
(551-581) Kabuto plots, the Oracle dies.
(582-599) V ends Kabuto, and leaves.
(600-622) Truce with the Thieve's Guild.
(623-642) Adult Black Dragon revenge ends with the rise of a dark V.
(643-662) V fails to beat Xykon, MitD saves two lives.
(663-672) Roy is back in the game.
Book 5 (673+) ?
(673-698) To Girard's Gate.
(699-709) Gobbotopia is founded.
(710-774) Elan meets his father.
(775-822) Linear Guild attacks.
(823-833) Resistance crushed, Team Evil on the move.
(834-898) Windy Canyon.
(899-936) Tarquin's breakdown.
(937+) To Dwarven lands.
DaggerPen
2014-01-20, 07:47 AM
Looking really good so far, guys! If there are no objections, I'll go ahead and slot in Gwynfrid's proposed summaries for the strip breakdowns. Voting is still open on 571's summary.
ChristianSt
2014-01-20, 08:51 AM
I'm ok with keeping it shorter (albeit I have the opinion that 1-2 sentence wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure exactly how DaggerPen will use them. If she wants to use it as Spoiler-labels, then yes they really should be shorter. If they are used as a intro for each junk, than a bit more information doesn't hurt.), but I would change some things:
You forgot Book 4, Round 1:
(485-500) Roy's afterlife.
(122-149) Sidequest for starmetal.
(175-189) Lizard V defeats Young Adult Black Dragon.
For me this indicate rather wrong information. In (122-149) they visit the town and accept the starmetal quest.
In (175-189) they finish the starmetal quest. Making the only event there the defeat of he YABD kinda says that this is the only relevant thing that happened - which is only the case if we consider Familicide. [And if we consider such future knowledge we need to rehash old summeries from time to see if more relevant things happened there.] I think if we want such sort summaries, I would use these:
(122-149) Visiting a town.
(175-189) Finished the starmetal sidequest.
(224-251) Inn blown up along with treasure, Haley speechless.
Haley isn't speechless, she speaks gibberish. I would change it to:
(224-251) Inn blown up, Haley speeks gibberish onwards.
I think we can drop the treasure when we keep it that short. And also denote when she gets fixed:
(377-400) Elan saves Haley with help of Julio Scoundrél, Haley is fixed.
(551-581) Kabuto plots, the Oracle dies.
I think the more import part is that the Mark of Justice triggers, but I'm not sure which opinion is better :smallwink:
(643-662) V fails to beat Xykon, MitD saves two lives.
I think we should say "MitD saves O-Chul and Vaarsavius" [And I think we should write out Vaarsavius, but that is my personal opinion, such shorthands like V are rather informal in my opinion. I'm more fine with MitD since we don't have a name to use anyway.]
(663-672) Roy is back in the game.
I would be a bit more formal/precise here and go just with
(663-672) Roy gets resurrected.
(198-223) Order arrested by Miko, finds time to help some dirt farmers.
(259-288) Order on trial in Azure City.
I would use "The Order": it makes it much clearer that this isn't a capitalized version of "order" at the start of the sentence.
(401-411) Miko's Fall.
Maybe I'm a sucker for listing more information, but in (401-411) I would add Shojo's death and write:
(401-411) Miko kills Shojo and falls.
(412-466) The Battle of Azure City.
(834-898) Windy Canyon.
I think we should also include deaths of protagonists and would write:
(412-466) Roy dies during the Battle of Azure City.
(834-898) Durkon gets turned into a vampire inside Girard's pyramid.
[I think the pyramid is the more important location than Windy Canyon]
(937+) To Dwarven lands.
I'm not sure how we should handle the ongoing chunk. I don't think we should speculate here about what will happen ("To Dwarven lands." sounds that they will arrive there - but we don't know if that really will happen). So I would use "Traveling on the Mechane". [Or in the case we haven't a true statement I would leave it blank.]
Book1 (1-121) Dungeon Crawlin' Fools
(1-43) Exploring the Dungeon of Dorukan.
(44-72) Meeting the Linear Guild.
(73-85) Durkon's short-lived romance and Banjo's short-lived godhood.
(86-121) Xykon found, Durokan's Gate blown up.
Book 2 (122-301) No Cure for the Paladin Blues
(122-149) Visiting a town.
(150-174) Battling bandits.
(175-189) Finished the starmetal sidequest.
(190-197) Team Evil recovers.
(198-223) The Order arrested by Miko, finds time to help some dirt farmers.
(224-251) Inn blown up, Haley speeks gibberish onwards.
(252-258) Linear Guild kidnaps Julia.
(259-288) The Order on trial in Azure City.
(289-298) Roy accepts Shojo's "job offer".
(299-301) Team Evil on their way to Azure City.
Book 3 (302-484) War and XPs
(302-320) New Year's Day romances have varied success.
(321-338) The Oracle of Sunken Valley.
(339-367) Nale's Cliffport trap.
(368-376) Miko meets Team Evil.
(377-400) Elan saves Haley with help of Julio Scoundrél, Haley is fixed.
(401-411) Miko kills Shojo and falls.
(412-466) Roy dies during the Battle of Azure City.
(467-484) The Order is split.
Book 4 (485-672) Don't Split the Party
(485-500) Roy's afterlife.
(501-540) Haley, Resistance Leader.
(541-550) Endurant O'Chul makes MitD a friend.
(551-581) Kabuto plots, the Oracle dies.
(582-599) Vaarsuvius ends Kabuto, and leaves.
(600-622) Truce with the Thieve's Guild.
(623-642) Adult Black Dragon revenge ends with the rise of a dark Vaarsuvius.
(643-662) Vaarsuvius fails to beat Xykon, MitD saves O-Chul and Vaasruvius.
(663-672) Roy gets resurrected.
Book 5 (673+) ?
(673-698) To Girard's Gate.
(699-709) Gobbotopia is founded.
(710-774) Elan meets his father.
(775-822) Linear Guild attacks.
(823-833) Resistance crushed, Team Evil on the move.
(834-898) Durkon gets turned into a vampire inside Girard's pyramid.
(899-936) Tarquin's breakdown.
(937+) Traveling on the Mechane.
nogall
2014-01-20, 09:01 AM
+1 for shorter summaries. This whole thread (and this new organization) will be really, really helpful when trying to find a specific strip. Thanks to everyone involved.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-20, 10:55 AM
You forgot Book 4, Round 1:
(485-500) Roy's afterlife.
Oops. Right you are.
On everything else, I think there is a strong case for brevity at the expense of precision. Remember, our audience is made entirely of people who read the whole comic already, quite possibly more than once. They just need an easy reminder to help find the strips they're looking for. As an example: Nobody needs an explanation of why Miko falls; if they do, they should be reading the comic, not the summary!
I think we should say "MitD saves O-Chul and Vaarsavius" [And I think we should write out Vaarsavius, but that is my personal opinion, such shorthands like V are rather informal in my opinion. I'm more fine with MitD since we don't have a name to use anyway.]
I don't quite see why we should be formal at all? From my perspective, anything that makes it easier & nicer to read is good, which makes me lean in favor of shorter and, where possible, more humorous, as opposed to more formal.
I'm not sure how we should handle the ongoing chunk. I don't think we should speculate here about what will happen ("To Dwarven lands." sounds that they will arrive there - but we don't know if that really will happen). So I would use "Traveling on the Mechane". [Or in the case we haven't a true statement I would leave it blank.]
I don't mind, because this is a placeholder anyway. It will change when we have more strips, and the chunks will move around when we see how the Giant split the book into rounds.
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-01-22, 11:47 AM
I forgot to bookmark this thread, and had to catch up! Liking the progress! :smallcool:
DaggerPen
2014-01-22, 04:54 PM
Voting isn't quite closed yet (starting to think a week may be too long a period), but for today's update:
940: Amun-Zora, Ganji and Enor have a recruitment drive; welcome Ian Starshine. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0940.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-01-23, 08:33 AM
It's "Amun-Zora" with a dash, but otherwise it's fine.
DaggerPen
2014-01-23, 08:37 AM
Whoops, my bad. Fixed now.
DaggerPen
2014-01-24, 01:28 PM
941: Ian and Haley say goodbye, Elan shares some plans. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0941.html)
thereaper
2014-01-24, 01:41 PM
941: Elan gives Ian his plan for beating Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0941.html)
Edit: Drat! Ninja'd again!
Gwynfrid
2014-01-24, 02:11 PM
941: Elan gives Ian his plan for beating Tarquin. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0941.html)
Edit: Drat! Ninja'd again!
FWIW, I like yours a little better. I like shorter.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-28, 11:02 PM
942: Geoff was working for Bozzok. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0942.html)
DaggerPen
2014-01-29, 02:46 PM
Voting is now closed; I have edited the first post to use the shorter round summaries as proposed by Gwynfrid, except for the missing 485-500, which is "Roy's Afterlife" as per ChristianSt. I also used thereaper's 941 summary, and Gwynfrid's 942 summary. The alternate 571 summary has also been used.
I am currently considering amending for a shorter voting period, because it seems like we got these issues settled in a much shorter time than the voting period really required. I'm thinking I may make it 3 days by default, with the option to extend it if discussion is still ongoing near the end of the period.
Gwynfrid
2014-01-29, 07:52 PM
I am currently considering amending for a shorter voting period, because it seems like we got these issues settled in a much shorter time than the voting period really required. I'm thinking I may make it 3 days by default, with the option to extend it if discussion is still ongoing near the end of the period.
Yes, that makes sense based on the first experience we have.
Gwynfrid
2014-02-05, 07:20 AM
943: Julio takes his leave. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0943.html)
DaggerPen
2014-02-05, 10:48 AM
Beat me to that one! Though, I'd be inclined to mention that Julio left his Chaos Sabre to Elan, too, since that's a big enough detail that people are likely to reference later.
Gwynfrid
2014-02-05, 11:12 AM
Good point. I'm changing my suggestion to : 943: Julio goes on vacation, leaves his Chaos Sabre to Elan. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0943.html)
DaggerPen
2014-02-10, 11:33 PM
944: Roy and V discuss the aftermath of Familicide. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0944.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-02-15, 03:58 PM
945: Laurin's crushed dream: A city by the ocean. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0945.html)
DaggerPen
2014-02-15, 04:13 PM
Mostly pretty good, but since we're not overly concerned with spoilers in this thread, I would definitely mention the possible Snarl appearance. Possibly something more like "A Snarl emerges in Laurin's dream: a City by the Ocean"
orrion
2014-02-15, 04:14 PM
Mostly pretty good, but since we're not overly concerned with spoilers in this thread, I would definitely mention the possible Snarl appearance.
"Roy tempts fate and the Snarl responds appropriately."
Porthos
2014-02-15, 04:15 PM
Mostly pretty good, but since we're not overly concerned with spoilers in this thread, I would definitely mention the possible Snarl appearance. Possibly something more like "A Snarl emerges in Laurin's dream: a City by the Ocean"
"We're gonna need a bigger boat Gate"?
...
Sorry, I'll let myself out. :smalltongue:
DaggerPen
2014-02-15, 04:19 PM
"We're gonna need a bigger boat Gate"?
...
Sorry, I'll let myself out. :smalltongue:
*a hook emerges from offstage*
thereaper
2014-02-15, 04:37 PM
Someday, I will beat one of you to the punch.
Someday.
Gwynfrid
2014-02-15, 04:37 PM
Right now, the existence of the Snarl is in doubt. There's something in the rifts that kills people coming nearby. Whether that's the Snarl (as described in Crayons of Time) is a question mark for me.
That said, I welcome other opinions.
Porthos
2014-02-15, 04:42 PM
A bit more seriously, then:
Laurin telepathically probes Girard's Rift and something horrible lashes out in response. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0945.html)
It can always be edited later to The Snarl.
thereaper
2014-02-16, 05:21 AM
No, it should be referred to as the Snarl, because to call it anything else at this point would be highly speculative. We might as well say "someone that looks like Laurin peers into the rift". Even if the nature of the Snarl turned out to be something other than what we were told, that wouldn't change the fact that this is almost certainly the thing that kills people from the rifts that has up to now been referred to as the Snarl. Therefore, it's silly to refer to it as anything but the Snarl.
Gwynfrid
2014-02-16, 11:30 AM
All right, on second thought:
- This isn't worth pages of debate.
- The goal of the summary is to make is as easy as possible to find the strip you're looking for. From that perspective, the word "Snarl" is the most suitable expression: It's short and everybody will recognize what it is. Its accuracy, story-wise, is moot as far as our purposes are concerned.
Therefore, I withdraw my initial suggestion, and recommend we use DaggerPen's (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17004173&postcount=60) instead.
Gwynfrid
2014-02-18, 09:17 PM
946: Where Durkon really stands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html)
thereaper
2014-04-01, 09:00 PM
947: Durkon's Mama saves the day with one hand...er, missing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0947.html)
Hah! I did it! In your face! :smalltongue:
DaggerPen
2014-04-01, 09:03 PM
Ha! Very nicely done. I'll update the first post. I suppose I should probably tag it, too.
EDIT: All right, first posts updated. Being as this is the first strip and it's not entirely clear where the arc is going, I've just put it under a generic Book 6 category for now; when we reach the end of a plot arc I'll make a new section for said arc. I am currently trying to figure out some good tags for the first post. I will probably also remove the specific strip summary credit breakdown in favor of a general "contributors" list, because keeping track of who suggested what has gotten to be a bit of a pain.
thereaper
2014-04-01, 09:21 PM
A wise choice.
Gwynfrid
2014-04-01, 09:29 PM
947: Durkon's Mama saves the day with one hand...er, missing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0947.html)
Hah! I did it! In your face! :smalltongue:
Congrats on being first on the first one! Cool summary, too. Although, a suggestion, if I may: how about "saves the day, single-handedly" ?
DaggerPen: Fully agree, we don't need to keep track of exactly who offered which summary.
DaggerPen
2014-04-01, 10:37 PM
Specific credits have been removed, which I think will simplify things. Especially situations like this one, where I really, really like a proposed partial change to a summary.
Grey_Wolf_c
2014-04-01, 10:45 PM
Congrats on being first on the first one! Cool summary, too. Although, a suggestion, if I may: how about "saves the day, single-handedly" ?
Yep, that does sound better. Has my approval/vote/support/like.
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DaggerPen, can I convince you to tag the thread with "spoilers"?
EDIT: Also, there is an unnecessary "[ /quote]" tag inside the "(937+) To Dwarven lands." spoiler tag
EDIT 2: and you might want to change the tag title to "(937-946)..." since you're there.
Grey Wolf
DaggerPen
2014-04-01, 10:47 PM
Yeah, absolutely. Anyone else have any suggested tags? It's already got the index label and that "strip summaries" tag the mods added for me, but I think something like "reference" would work well in there, at least?
EDIT: Whoops, how'd that get in there? Fixed, and label changed.
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-04-02, 06:22 AM
Yeah, absolutely. Anyone else have any suggested tags? It's already got the index label and that "strip summaries" tag the mods added for me, but I think something like "reference" would work well in there, at least?
EDIT: Whoops, how'd that get in there? Fixed, and label changed.
Let me know what you folks decide, and I'll add that to the Annotation project too. :smallsmile:
DaggerPen
2014-04-02, 03:45 PM
I think "reference" and "compendium" would be good ones for the both of us, then, since we're here to provide some type of reference for the script, and they're both compendiums of knowledge.
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-04-02, 03:50 PM
I think "reference" and "compendium" would be good ones for the both of us, then, since we're here to provide some type of reference for the script, and they're both compendiums of knowledge.
perhaps, references, and oots compendium?
DaggerPen
2014-04-02, 04:16 PM
perhaps, references, and oots compendium?
Yeah, I like those better.
Gwynfrid
2014-04-02, 09:26 PM
I checked the summaries for books 1 and 2, and I'd like to propose a few minor fixes:
"32. Story content is removed due for trademark reasons." - Proposing "due to trademark reasons."
We need a CR between #100 and #101.
"103: The MitD unsuccessfully to come up with a terrifying threat." - Proposing "The MitD tries, unsuccessfully, to come up"
We need a CR between #150 and #151.
#182 and #186: I suggest replacing the acronym "YBD" with the full "young black dragon".
"220: Vaarsuvius' invoice is louder than her regular voice." - Proposing "his or her voice" because the summary should not take sides in that perennial debate :smalltongue:
Also, I'm suggesting a full rewording for 2 strips:
"160. Samantha demonstrates why Rogues are lower tier than Sorcerors." - Spelling "Sorcerers" is a minimum change. But anyway, I dislike the mention of "tiers", so here is an alternate: "160. A jealous Haley challenges Samantha. Bad idea."
"242: Chekhov's Shadow." - I think this is way too obscure, and fails to summarize the strip. Here is my proposal: "If you never got an inn blown up, you aren't a real adventurer."
Lombard
2014-04-02, 10:11 PM
I so heart DaggerPen right now. Truly an impressive individual even if I still quibble with the waste and inefficiency of writing with a 1d4 weapon. :thog:
DaggerPen
2014-04-02, 10:41 PM
*giggles* Thank you. I only did like 1/4 of the transcriptions myself and compiled them, though - the other contributors deserve a bunch of love. But I'm glad to see you found us, considering it was your excellent idea in the first place! Also, I lol'd at your 1d4 comment.
Gwynfrid
2014-04-07, 12:35 PM
848: Durkon's internal dialog runs at the speed of lightning, (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0948.html)
thereaper
2014-04-17, 06:44 AM
849: Elan is immersed in his role as backup healer. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0949.html)
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-04-17, 03:11 PM
849: Elan is immersed in his role as backup healer. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0949.html)
Should we mention something about the condition of the ship?
thereaper
2014-04-17, 04:33 PM
I don't really think so for two reasons. The first is that the summary only needs to remind people of which strip it is. The second is that the next strip or two will probably involve a damage report of some sort.
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-04-17, 06:29 PM
I don't really think so for two reasons. The first is that the summary only needs to remind people of which strip it is. The second is that the next strip or two will probably involve a damage report of some sort.
Alright, although I'm not entirely confidant that that is what everyone will remember the strip for. Your second point makes sense, though.
DaggerPen
2014-04-24, 02:29 AM
950: Vaarsuvius deals with the fire; Blackwing deals with airsickness. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0950.html)
Also, Gwynfrid's proposed changes have now all been accepted.
Gwynfrid
2014-05-05, 06:12 AM
951: Roy is reduced to helping with some piece of rope. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0951.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-05-19, 11:02 AM
952: Thor is in charge of storms in Northern lands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0952.html)
thereaper
2014-05-26, 06:33 AM
953: Control Weather is on the standard Cleric spell list. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0953.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-06-03, 07:01 PM
954: Thor's absolute power is really quite limited, due to some pesky regulations. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0954.html)
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-06-12, 11:49 AM
955: Thor strikes at the airship a second time, only to be thwarted by Vaarsuvius and Blackwing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0955.html)
DaggerPen
2014-06-12, 12:25 PM
Curses! I'll get another one of these eventually, mark my words. :smalltongue:
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-06-12, 12:41 PM
Curses! I'll get another one of these eventually, mark my words. :smalltongue:
Edited it to include "a second time". :smallwink:
DaggerPen
2014-06-12, 12:43 PM
Edited in as "Thor tries a second time to sink the airship, only to be thwarted by Vaarsuvius and Blackwing." if there are no objections, as "sink the airship a second time" could also be read as "sink the airship (which has been sunk once before".
TheWombatOfDoom
2014-06-12, 12:45 PM
Edited in as "Thor tries a second time to sink the airship, only to be thwarted by Vaarsuvius and Blackwing." if there are no objections, as "sink the airship a second time" could also be read as "sink the airship (which has been sunk once before".
How about "Thor strikes at the air ship a second time,..."
DaggerPen
2014-06-12, 12:46 PM
Oh, I like that better.
thereaper
2014-06-28, 04:07 AM
956: Everyone knows the plan (even without Roy saying it). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
DaggerPen
2014-06-28, 04:34 AM
You know, I even made the first page of the discussion thread this time, and yet I completely blanked on making a new summary. Go figure. You win this round, thereaper. :smalltongue:
ChristianSt
2014-06-28, 04:34 AM
956: Everyone knows the plan (even without Roy saying it). (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
I really don't like this. It doesn't tell anything about what actually happened in the strip. Also I think "the plan" is mostly used in conjunction with Redcloak (so if read out of context I wouldn't be surprised if someone thinks about it that way).
I would do something like 956: Crisis averted and heading to Tinkertown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
Reddish Mage
2014-06-28, 08:08 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0669.html
The title mentions Haley who isn't present or referred to. Its obvious LY Celia instead
DaggerPen
2014-06-29, 12:30 AM
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0669.html
The title mentions Haley who isn't present or referred to. Its obvious LY Celia instead
Whoops, fixed, thanks.
As for the recent summary, I do actually like ChristianSt's better, but I'll hold off to see if we get any more discussion.
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-06-29, 06:10 AM
As for the recent summary, I do actually like ChristianSt's better, but I'll hold off to see if we get any more discussion.
I think I like his summary better as well, since it gives a better idea of what's going on in the strip.
Gwynfrid
2014-06-29, 07:46 AM
I prefer ChristianSt's version as well.
Qaanol
2014-06-29, 12:12 PM
I really don't like this. It doesn't tell anything about what actually happened in the strip. Also I think "the plan" is mostly used in conjunction with Redcloak (so if read out of context I wouldn't be surprised if someone thinks about it that way).
I would do something like 956: Crisis averted and heading to Tinkertown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
That is definitely an improvement, but I would actually suggest, 956: Out of the storm and heading to Tinkertown. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0956.html)
thereaper
2014-06-29, 10:53 PM
I didn't really like mine anyway. ChristianSt's is better, and Qaanol's better still.
You know, I even made the first page of the discussion thread this time, and yet I completely blanked on making a new summary. Go figure. You win this round, thereaper. :smalltongue:
I win every round. You just don't know it.
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-06-30, 05:59 AM
I think Qaanol's summary works well too.
I win every round. You just don't know it.
Does our every move make your victory more complete? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0785.html)
thereaper
2014-06-30, 10:19 AM
Yes. Yes, it does.
DaggerPen
2014-07-05, 03:49 AM
957: When confronting the High Priest of Hel, Belkar takes a dive. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0957.html)
As for 956, are we definitely going going with ChristianSt's, or would anyone like to change their vote to Qaanol's?
Gwynfrid
2014-07-05, 05:29 AM
As for 956, are we definitely going going with ChristianSt's, or would anyone like to change their vote to Qaanol's?
I'd take Qaanol's.
thereaper
2014-07-05, 02:47 PM
957: When confronting the High Priest of Hel, Belkar takes a dive. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0957.html)
As for 956, are we definitely going going with ChristianSt's, or would anyone like to change their vote to Qaanol's?
Yay! You did it!
Also, yes, Qaanol's.
DaggerPen
2014-07-05, 06:04 PM
I was amazed no one had beaten me to it!
And Qaanol's it is! Updated.
thereaper
2014-07-22, 07:59 AM
938: The High Priest of Hel gets some music with his dinner. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0958.html)
DaggerPen
2014-07-25, 01:08 AM
959: Haley and Bandana discuss clothing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0959.html)
DaggerPen
2014-08-13, 05:42 AM
960: Belkar tells V about Durkon and gets a new magic psionic dagger. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0960.html)
Also, fixed the numbering mistake in the previous one. >_>
DaggerPen
2014-08-29, 09:08 PM
961: Roy eavesdrops to confirm "Durkon's" deity, but fails a Hel of a listen check. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ooots091.html)
rodneyAnonymous
2014-08-30, 12:25 AM
No Listen check was failed, I don't think. He heard correctly, but misunderstood.
thereaper
2014-08-30, 12:53 AM
It doesn't need to be accurate, per se; it only needs to tell us what strip is being referred to (ideally, in an amusing manner). This qualifies.
Gwynfrid
2014-08-30, 08:25 AM
Technically, he failed a Linguistics check. But I agree, the summary doesn't need to be 100% accurate. As long as it helps tracking down a particular comic, it's fine.
Gwynfrid
2014-09-11, 05:50 AM
962: Durkon remembers many dinner parties. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0962.html)
unbeliever536
2014-09-16, 03:51 PM
You have strip 900 listed twice.
DaggerPen
2014-09-17, 07:31 PM
Whoops! Fixed, thank you.
Gwynfrid
2014-09-26, 06:50 PM
693: Unlike the High Priest of Hel, Durkon is fond of recalling childhood memories. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
DaggerPen
2014-09-26, 07:08 PM
Ach, ninja'd! It's just as well, though, since I wasn't really sure what to do for this one.
Gwynfrid
2014-09-26, 07:18 PM
That one isn't easy, I'm kinda lukewarm about how I put it. If anyone has suggestions...
DaggerPen
2014-09-26, 07:23 PM
When in doubt, I try to resort to the most memorable thing about the strip... maybe something like "Durkon realizes why he's so passive in combat"?
SaintRidley
2014-09-26, 07:41 PM
Alternative suggestion: 963: If you can't see the connection, you might be a vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Best read in the voice of Jeff Foxworthy.
Gwynfrid
2014-09-26, 07:48 PM
When in doubt, I try to resort to the most memorable thing about the strip... maybe something like "Durkon realizes why he's so passive in combat"?
Debatable. In fact I don't think Durkon is portrayed as being passive in combat (passive in non-combat contexts, now, that's possible). The strip shows him to be utterly clueless about teamwork at the start of his adventuring career, but he's learned a lot since.
Alternative suggestion: 963: If you can't see the connection, you might be a vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Best read in the voice of Jeff Foxworthy.
The cultural reference is beyond me, but this is funny all the same. Unfortunately, I think it's too crytpic for the purposes of the summaries.
DaggerPen
2014-09-26, 07:52 PM
Debatable. In fact I don't think Durkon is portrayed as being passive in combat (passive in non-combat contexts, now, that's possible). The strip shows him to be utterly clueless about teamwork at the start of his adventuring career, but he's learned a lot since.
Hm, point. I definitely want something about Durkon not helping without being asked, though, since I think that's one of the big takeaways.
Alternative suggestion: 963: If you can't see the connection, you might be a vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Best read in the voice of Jeff Foxworthy.
Still a bit too cryptic, I'm afraid.
Maybe 963: The High Priest of Hel can't see why Durkon was slow to help (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)?
SaintRidley
2014-09-26, 08:20 PM
Perhaps tack onto the end of mine "If you need help, just ask Durkon!"
Qaanol
2014-09-26, 08:25 PM
963: How Durkon learned not to help without asking, unless someone’s being eaten. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-09-26, 08:30 PM
I prefer DaggerPen's take on this, to be honest. Here's a more complete wording (I think).
963: The High Priest of Hel fails to connect the dots in Durkon's memories. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Qaanol
2014-09-26, 11:02 PM
How about combining the two?
963: Durkon remembers learning when to help, and the High Priest of Hel doesn’t make the connection. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Alternatively…
963: Young Durkon breaks dishes, and Roy gets eaten by a frog. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
963: In which we learn that Durkon’s middle name is Allotrope. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
963: The one with the Mechane in silhouette against the moon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
963: Durkon uses deception and comes up with a joke on the spot. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Lord Torath
2014-09-27, 08:20 AM
Alternative suggestion: 963: If you can't see the connection, you might be a vampire. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Best read in the voice of Jeff Foxworthy.
The cultural reference is beyond me, but this is funny all the same. Unfortunately, I think it's too crytpic for the purposes of the summaries.From "You might be a Redneck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvPCcYrBg5s)." The rednecks jokes start about 4 minutes in.
Gwynfrid
2014-09-27, 09:40 AM
From "You might be a Redneck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvPCcYrBg5s)." The rednecks jokes start about 4 minutes in.
Thanks.
Regarding the summary for 693: We might be sweating this one more than it is worth. DaggerPen, why don't you pick a favorite among the proposals above, and unless someone strongly objects, we call it a day?
Qaanol
2014-09-27, 07:52 PM
693: Unlike the High Priest of Hel, Durkon is fond of recalling childhood memories. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
Regarding the summary for 693: We might be sweating this one more than it is worth. DaggerPen, why don't you pick a favorite among the proposals above, and unless someone strongly objects, we call it a day?
You are literally the only one still talking about #693.
The rest of us are discussing the current strip, #963.
Also, Sigmund Freud called for you while you were out.
DaggerPen
2014-09-27, 09:16 PM
Thanks.
Regarding the summary for 693: We might be sweating this one more than it is worth. DaggerPen, why don't you pick a favorite among the proposals above, and unless someone strongly objects, we call it a day?
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I'm going to put my favorite as:
963: Durkon remembers learning when to help, and the High Priest of Hel doesn’t make the connection. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
With one modification:
963: Durkon Allotrope Thundershield remembers learning when to help, and the High Priest of Hel doesn’t make the connection. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html)
That's the Allotrope, the "learning when to help" and the "lack of HPOH realization" all in one go. It's not the pithiest thing, but hey, that's what the official titles are for, and there's a reason those don't make this thread redundant.
Any objections?
Gwynfrid
2014-09-27, 09:41 PM
It's a bit long and heavy, but covers everything. Good enough.
SaintRidley
2014-09-28, 01:18 AM
Minor note to Daggerpen - 957 is on the same line as 956 in the collected post. Should probably give it its own line.
DaggerPen
2014-09-28, 01:22 AM
Whoops! Fixed, thanks, and new summary swapped in.
Gwynfrid
2014-10-14, 09:31 AM
964: In need of repair, the Mechane arrives in Tinkertown, gnome steampunk port of call. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0964.html)
(Edited with the name of the town.)
thereaper
2014-10-14, 06:39 PM
I would prefer 964: Steampunk is trendy these days (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0964.html)
rodneyAnonymous
2014-10-15, 06:13 PM
That's not a summary of what happened, though.
thereaper
2014-10-17, 12:19 AM
If you want to get technical, neither does 73. "What Would Thor Do?" is not as helpful as Durkon would like (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html), 114: YOU! BROKE! MY! SWORD! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html), or 121: The sad part is, the d3 really does get more play than the d12 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html).
The purpose of the thread is to serve as a sort of directory to various strips. The reason the above examples work is because they make references which can really only refer to specific strips (and therefore work as well as or even better than a simple summary). The one I suggested follows the same lines.
That said, however, if Gwynfrid's is preferred over my suggested alternative (as your implied opposition would indicate), I am perfectly happy with mine being discarded.
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-10-17, 04:56 AM
If you want to get technical, neither does 73. "What Would Thor Do?" is not as helpful as Durkon would like (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html), 114: YOU! BROKE! MY! SWORD! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html), or 121: The sad part is, the d3 really does get more play than the d12 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html).
The purpose of the thread is to serve as a sort of directory to various strips. The reason the above examples work is because they make references which can really only refer to specific strips (and therefore work as well as or even better than a simple summary). The one I suggested follows the same lines.
That said, however, if Gwynfrid's is preferred over my suggested alternative (as your implied opposition would indicate), I am perfectly happy with mine being discarded.
I prefer Gwynfrid's because I do prefer the summaries over the references, and if a summary and a reference is proposed for a strip I tend to go with the summary.
ChristianSt
2014-10-17, 08:14 AM
If you want to get technical, neither does 73. "What Would Thor Do?" is not as helpful as Durkon would like (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html), 114: YOU! BROKE! MY! SWORD! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html), or 121: The sad part is, the d3 really does get more play than the d12 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html).
The purpose of the thread is to serve as a sort of directory to various strips. The reason the above examples work is because they make references which can really only refer to specific strips (and therefore work as well as or even better than a simple summary). The one I suggested follows the same lines.
That said, however, if Gwynfrid's is preferred over my suggested alternative (as your implied opposition would indicate), I am perfectly happy with mine being discarded.
Only because there are summaries that aren't that much of a summary, doesn't mean that some people would prefer a summary.
Even for those strips I would gladly support any actual summary to replace the current versions :smallwink:
How about 114: Roy throws Xykon at the Gate. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html)?
DaggerPen
2014-10-17, 03:09 PM
My general rule with these summaries is that they should cover the most memorable things about the strip, in such a way as to make searching for a strip easier. To that end, I have no objections to summaries that reference a memorable aspect of a strip, such as the punchline. In this instance, however, I am not sure the "steam punk is trendy" bit is memorable enough, and prefer the first proposal.
Gwynfrid
2014-10-19, 04:53 PM
If you want to get technical, neither does 73. "What Would Thor Do?" is not as helpful as Durkon would like (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html), 114: YOU! BROKE! MY! SWORD! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0114.html), or 121: The sad part is, the d3 really does get more play than the d12 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html).
The purpose of the thread is to serve as a sort of directory to various strips. The reason the above examples work is because they make references which can really only refer to specific strips (and therefore work as well as or even better than a simple summary). The one I suggested follows the same lines.
My general rule with these summaries is that they should cover the most memorable things about the strip, in such a way as to make searching for a strip easier. To that end, I have no objections to summaries that reference a memorable aspect of a strip, such as the punchline. In this instance, however, I am not sure the "steam punk is trendy" bit is memorable enough, and prefer the first proposal.
Some time back, I proposed a few changes for summaries that were exceedingly cryptic references (those suggestions were accepted). I didn't propose changes to thereaper's examples, because while they don't do the best possible job in my opinion, they aren't so bad that they warranted the additional work at that time.
That said, when it comes to new strips, I don't think we should use referencing as a substitute for a real summary, except for truly unforgettable references. And even then, what qualifies as "unforgettable" will vary from reader to reader, so a summary will nearly always be preferable.
Gwynfrid
2014-10-20, 03:56 PM
965: Haley's haggling skills are a huge time and money saver. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0965.html)
Gwynfrid
2014-10-24, 08:24 AM
966: Today's shopping list: Teleportation, Resurrection, then brunch. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0966.html)
DaggerPen
2014-10-24, 11:42 AM
Mind if I tweak that to "Tinkertown shopping list"?
Gwynfrid
2014-10-24, 11:50 AM
Mind if I tweak that to "Tinkertown shopping list"?
Why not. I don't think it's necessary, since the name "Tinkertown" appears in the summary already twice before, just a few lines higher. But it doesn't harm either, so I don't mind.
Gwynfrid
2014-11-10, 11:24 AM
967: Blackwing's bauble is still shiny, and now useful too! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0967.html)
(Edited - I had the sentence kinda backwards)
SaintRidley
2014-11-20, 10:34 PM
968: No high-level clerics means the High Priest of Hel dominates the discussion. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0968.html)
DaggerPen
2014-12-01, 07:48 PM
Holy crap, 6 pages of the discussion thread and I'm still first?
969: Belkar's search for protection from mental domination shows he's still Evil (but still has standards) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0969.html)
rodneyAnonymous
2014-12-01, 11:20 PM
Nitpicky criticism, that is fine, but: what does the parenthetical comment mean?
DaggerPen
2014-12-01, 11:24 PM
Nitpicky criticism, that is fine, but: what does the parenthetical comment mean?
It's an "Even Evil has Standards (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftvtropes.org%2Fpmwiki%2Fpmwiki.ph p%2FMain%2FEvenEvilHasStandards&ei=1D59VPTuA8LzPIPegKAG&usg=AFQjCNGJgNMh2n7DfSEK22LPPdaaqZVPig&sig2=3o3YtYtr2xPrFL521arlWA&bvm=bv.80642063,d.ZWU)" reference (TVTropes warning), alluding to Belkar turning down the gnome's offer to buy him lunch, apparently because he felt bad about basically scamming her out of half the price of the clasp.
Jaxzan Proditor
2014-12-01, 11:24 PM
Nitpicky criticism, that is fine, but: what does the parenthetical comment mean?
I think it is both a reference to Belkar's stated reason for turning down the date (he doesn't like gnomish cuisine) and that despite being Evil there are certain things he can't bring himself to do*. I think it might read better just as "but has standards".
*In other words, it's another way of saying the trope "Even Evil Has Standards"
DaggerPen
2014-12-01, 11:29 PM
I think it might read better just as "but has standards".
Actually, agreed. Updated.
Gwynfrid
2014-12-02, 12:03 AM
Holy crap, 6 pages of the discussion thread and I'm still first?
When I saw the new comic, it was a couple of hours after the fact and I was so sure there would be a summary already, I didn't even bother to check :smallamused:
In another nitpick, I must say I'm not keen on the "standards" remark. I don't recognize the TVtropes reference (I know what TVtropes is but I'm not a fan). And if we take the word at face value, I don't think Belkar has any standards to speak of. At least, it remains to be proven. He suddenly didn't feel like exploiting the kindly gnome woman any further than he already had. That's the most we can say, and he could very well do this or worse to somebody else the next day.
DaggerPen
2014-12-02, 12:10 AM
When I saw the new comic, it was a couple of hours after the fact and I was so sure there would be a summary already, I didn't even bother to check :smallamused:
In another nitpick, I must say I'm not keen on the "standards" remark. I don't recognize the TVtropes reference (I know what TVtropes is but I'm not a fan). And if we take the word at face value, I don't think Belkar has any standards to speak of. At least, it remains to be proven. He suddenly didn't feel like exploiting the kindly gnome woman any further than he already had. That's the most we can say, and he could very well do this or worse to somebody else the next day.
I feel like him turning down the date with the gnome woman, and then stumbling out a line to his cat about "bad enough I was-" indicates some type of reservations there. I originally had a note about him maybe being less evil than before, but I thought that would be too controversial, and this was a more ambiguous phrasing about it.
I don't wanna start a whole Belkar's character development debate, but I feel like that sequence is going to be one of this comic's most memorable parts, and I'd like to have some reference to it. Does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
rodneyAnonymous
2014-12-02, 12:20 AM
I read it as "the gnome girl does not meet Belkar's standards", wrong in a different way. I think it's okay to say Belkar seems less evil. He does.
Suggestion: "969: Belkar's search for protection from mental domination shows he's still Evil, despite showing signs of being less so."
Porthos
2014-12-02, 02:00 AM
I read it as "the gnome girl does not meet Belkar's standards", wrong in a different way. I think it's okay to say Belkar seems less evil. He does.
Suggestion: "969: Belkar's search for protection from mental domination shows he's still Evil, despite showing signs of being less so."
I like this one a lot. Perhaps a slight modification:
969: Belkar's search for protection from mental domination shows he's still Evil, despite showing some signs of being less so.
Gwynfrid
2014-12-18, 07:42 PM
970: Haley stocks up on wands, while green-faced trouble looms. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0970.html)
DaggerPen
2014-12-27, 07:59 PM
971: Crystal Returns (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0971.html)
thereaper
2014-12-27, 10:16 PM
That is literally what I was going to say.
DaggerPen
2014-12-27, 11:51 PM
Some strips are rather straightforward to summarize.
littlebum2002
2014-12-30, 04:48 PM
There is no line break after #850.
Also, I love the summary for #859
Gwynfrid
2015-01-12, 10:04 PM
972: She's some sort of innovative golem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0972.html)
ChristianSt
2015-01-13, 02:15 AM
972: She's some sort of innovative golem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0972.html)
I think the "she" needs to be replaced with "Crystal" to make it clearer.
I think the Book 5 title could be used for the overview.
Gwynfrid
2015-01-13, 07:40 AM
I think the "she" needs to be replaced with "Crystal" to make it clearer.
I thought of that, but Crystal's name appears just 1 line higher in the list, so I didn't feel a repeat was necessary.
DaggerPen
2015-01-14, 12:03 AM
Went with "Crystal" for the sake of people power-skimming.
Spacing issue fixed, and Book 5 spoiler updated with the title of the book.
SaintRidley
2015-01-14, 02:44 AM
Perhaps "By the way, Crystal's some sort of innovative golem"?
Or "Bi" if the pun needs to be spelled out.
littlebum2002
2015-01-14, 09:03 AM
The link for #961 is broken
DaggerPen
2015-01-14, 04:27 PM
The link for #961 is fixed.
The "by the way" suggestion amuses me - if there are no objections in a timely-ish fashion, I'll toss it in.
Gwynfrid
2015-01-14, 05:15 PM
The link for #961 is fixed.
The "by the way" suggestion amuses me - if there are no objections in a timely-ish fashion, I'll toss it in.
Can't say I like it to be honest. Not sure why. Of course it's a pun in English, so my judgement on it isn't the most qualified. Anyway, I like the summaries to be as crisp and short as possible. Throwing in another few words without information is a step in the wrong direction imo. But if you feel strongly about it, then by all means go ahead, it's not the end of the world.
rodneyAnonymous
2015-01-14, 07:26 PM
I don't like it.
heavyfuel
2015-01-15, 12:14 AM
While this is a great discovery (just found out about it), some strips do need clearer names like #648 should probably have the text "Crystal dies" in it alongside with the current name. Some of these strips were years ago and not remembering a joke, especially one with an odd spelling (Roland 'Itiative) is hard.
Just my 2 cp. And thanks for indexing!
DaggerPen
2015-01-15, 01:19 AM
"By the way" seems to be getting shot down, so the current summary stands.
@heavyfuel Thanks for the feedback! We try to reference memorable jokes, but in an index this large, there are going to be some duds. As maintainer, I definitely welcome any suggested changes, and will be amending the #648 summary to include that. If you see any more that seem off to you, feel free to mention them!
Oh, and welcome aboard!
Lord Torath
2015-01-15, 09:37 AM
Ah, darn. I rather liked "Bi the way, Crystal's some sort of Flesh Golem." Oh well.
Gwynfrid
2015-01-22, 04:17 PM
973: Bandana and Haley fall back that good ol' plan B, "run away". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
DaggerPen
2015-01-22, 11:10 PM
I think the adamantine arrows should be mentioned in there somewhere.
littlebum2002
2015-01-22, 11:58 PM
973: Bandana and Haley fall back that good ol' plan B, "run away". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
I like it, but you're missing a proposition. Fall back TO that good ol plan or fall back ON that good ol plan
(Not sure which is correct)
thereaper
2015-01-23, 12:29 AM
I think the adamantine arrows should be mentioned in there somewhere.
973: Wands and adamantine arrows are no match for Crystal (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)?
DaggerPen
2015-01-23, 01:18 AM
973: Wands and adamantine arrows are no match for Crystal (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)?
Works for me!
Gwynfrid
2015-01-23, 07:49 AM
I like it, but you're missing a proposition. Fall back TO that good ol plan or fall back ON that good ol plan
(Not sure which is correct)
Oops. :redface:
Sorry about that, of course you're right.
I think the adamantine arrows should be mentioned in there somewhere.
I don't quite see why that would be necessary. Haley missed, plain and simple. If the arrows had been mundane, or if they had carried golem-destructing warheads, the result would have been exactly the same, ie "Sploosh! Sploosh! Sploosh!"
That said, thereaper's proposal is fine. No issues if you guys prefer using it.
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-01-23, 08:12 AM
973: Wands and adamantine arrows are no match for Crystal (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)?
How about:
973: When magic and weapons don't work - RUN! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
Mordae
2015-01-23, 08:26 AM
973: When weapons and magic fail, Haley and Bandana fall back on Plan B - Run Away!
Gwynfrid
2015-01-23, 12:16 PM
How about:
973: When magic and weapons don't work - RUN! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
For me, this one is the best proposal so far. It's the shortest and has everything we need.
thereaper
2015-01-23, 07:28 PM
973: When wands and adamantine arrows don't work - RUN! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0973.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-01-23, 08:05 PM
I must say this passion for adamantine strikes me as odd :smalltongue:
thereaper
2015-01-24, 04:37 PM
Our adamant passion for adamantine is unbreakable!
DaggerPen
2015-01-24, 11:48 PM
Yes, we're quite adamant about it.
More seriously, it seems like the type of thing that people will want to reference later - "Doesn't Haley have a habit of carrying around weird metal arrows just in case?" "Yeah, she had adamantium arrows in this strip."
Gwynfrid
2015-01-25, 07:53 AM
More seriously, it seems like the type of thing that people will want to reference later - "Doesn't Haley have a habit of carrying around weird metal arrows just in case?" "Yeah, she had adamantium arrows in this strip."
The summary isn't the right medium for this kind of research. A summary can only give a overview of the plot, some highly memorable events, and a very high-level view of character appearances. Usage of such or such arrow doesn't qualify as memorable, imho. If we were to support somebody looking for adamantium, then every summary would have to list unusual weapons, unusual spells, unusual actions, character feelings, you name it. In other words: Familicide is big enough to be mentioned by name in a summary. Adamantine arrows, not so much. (There is a tiny chance that they turn out to be super-important, but we won't know that until later).
If one wishes to find where adamantine arrows were used, a search through WombatOfDoom's transcription (a phenomenal piece of work, I may add) is the correct tool.
thereaper
2015-01-26, 10:52 AM
The use of wands and adamantine arrows is more memorable than just magic and weapons, because it tells us "Oh, this is the one where they were fighting Crystal".
Gwynfrid
2015-01-26, 12:07 PM
The use of wands and adamantine arrows is more memorable than just magic and weapons, because it tells us "Oh, this is the one where they were fighting Crystal".
I don't think anybody needs a reminder of that, not with the summaries for 971 and 972 looking like this:
971: Crystal Returns
972: Crystal is some sort of innovative golem.
... That said, I don't want to discuss this to death, it's not that big a deal what exact wording we use. I for one don't think it makes for the best possible summary, but if you guys are dead set on sticking the word "adamant" in there somehow, I won't have a heart attack over it :smalltongue:
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-01-27, 11:59 AM
The summary isn't the right medium for this kind of research. A summary can only give a overview of the plot, some highly memorable events, and a very high-level view of character appearances. Usage of such or such arrow doesn't qualify as memorable, imho. If we were to support somebody looking for adamantium, then every summary would have to list unusual weapons, unusual spells, unusual actions, character feelings, you name it. In other words: Familicide is big enough to be mentioned by name in a summary. Adamantine arrows, not so much. (There is a tiny chance that they turn out to be super-important, but we won't know that until later).
If one wishes to find where adamantine arrows were used, a search through WombatOfDoom's transcription (a phenomenal piece of work, I may add) is the correct tool.
Thanks for the plug and the appreciation for the project! Too bad we aren't edited to that point yet! I've got book 5 ready to post, but I'm waiting on more people to look through previous books to get it up, as I try and keep each book on a seperate thread page, so it won't be interupted by a page end.
There's also this to be considered - while adamantine arrows were indeed used, they didn't actually hit Crystal, so its not like we know if they work or not.
973: When all forms of attack fail - RUN!
Gwynfrid
2015-02-02, 08:17 AM
974: Bozzok had Grubwiggler resurrected so he could build Crystal's body into a sentient golem. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0974.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-02-12, 09:44 PM
975: Haley takes flight, Crystal's rampage forces her to back down. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0975.html)
SaintRidley
2015-02-24, 06:04 PM
976: Haley will literally throw money at anyone who sells her an adamantine weapon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0976.html)
DaggerPen
2015-02-25, 05:10 PM
Wow, I've missed some updates, haven't I?
Updated through 976. Thanks, everyone!
Gwynfrid
2015-02-25, 05:32 PM
Great to have you back, DaggerPen! I was worried you might have left us :smallfrown:
By the way, I think the last comic and its very appropriate summary prove my point about #973: The adamantine arrows were moot, they don't need to be mentioned. Now, a search for adamantine should return #976, the relevant comic on the matter of golem-piercing weaponry.
SaintRidley
2015-02-25, 06:29 PM
Typo spotted in #698 - should say "to investigate" rather than "to investigates."
I'd also like to revise my original entry for #902 because I honestly don't even know what I was thinking with that (maybe "however a spider can"?) to read: #902 - The Rift's a no-go. And how do you fight sand anyway?
Gwynfrid
2015-03-10, 05:20 AM
977: The gnome police intervenes with advanced, but counterproductive weaponry. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0977.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-03-19, 08:17 AM
978: Crystal is charged up with both lightning and pain. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0978.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-03-29, 12:16 PM
979: Having understood what happened to Crystal, Haley uses diplomacy to great effect. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0979.html)
SaintRidley
2015-03-29, 12:41 PM
Depending on what happens, we may need to revise that one if it turns out Haley didn't use Diplomacy but the DC 19 Cha check needed to take temporary control of a berserking golem.
Gwynfrid
2015-03-29, 01:23 PM
Depending on what happens, we may need to revise that one if it turns out Haley didn't use Diplomacy but the DC 19 Cha check needed to take temporary control of a berserking golem.
My summary isn't meant to be an exact technical description, nor do I think any summary ever needs to be so, for the purpose we have here. It looks like diplomacy to the non-expert eye, so it's more than good enough to call it that. Maybe the Giant will go back and detail that nuance later... but that's unlikely, imo.
thereaper
2015-04-19, 12:20 AM
980: Grubwiggler leaves Bozzok to his fate at Crystal's hands. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0980.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-04-27, 05:35 AM
981: Haley walks Crystal down to the Tinkertown Municipal Waste Disposal Facility. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0981.html)
SaintRidley
2015-05-04, 09:52 AM
982. Durkon breathes again. Kind of. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0982.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-05-06, 10:07 PM
983: Durkon became a cleric so he could give his mother a hand. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0983.html)
DaggerPen
2015-05-08, 10:15 AM
I live!
School was being school, everyone, sorry - but the first post has now been updated. I just had my last final yesterday, so I should be more on top of things now. (Kudos to Gwynfrid for making me crack up with the most recent summary, FYI.)
thereaper
2015-05-08, 02:12 PM
I didn't even bother trying to come up with something for that one, because I knew someone else would do better. I was not disappointed.
Gwynfrid
2015-05-08, 10:57 PM
Thanks, both of you :smallwink:
unbeliever536
2015-05-11, 11:53 AM
984: "Durkon" knows the gnome cleric knows he knows the gnome knows...someone. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0984.html)
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-05-11, 12:05 PM
984: The High Priest of Hel fails his intimidation check.
Gwynfrid
2015-05-11, 01:03 PM
I think I like Unbeliever's proposal better. The only suggestion I'll make is to say, High Priest of Hel, rather than "Durkon". It's pretty minor though.
unbeliever536
2015-05-11, 03:04 PM
"Durkon" (in quotes) matches the summary of 961, the only other specific mention of that character we have. I'm not particularly attached to it, just explaining why I used that.
Gwynfrid
2015-05-11, 04:39 PM
"Durkon" (in quotes) matches the summary of 961, the only other specific mention of that character we have. I'm not particularly attached to it, just explaining why I used that.
As worded, the summary of 961 only makes sense because it says "Durkon". But the term, High Priest of Hel, is used in all other instances (3 of them so far). Now, I realize I'm being super-nitpicky here. This is really not a big deal.
unbeliever536
2015-05-11, 11:04 PM
Wow. Somehow I missed all three of those. Yeah, it should be High Priest of Hel. I was just trying to be consistent with the summaries that were there. Frankly, if I had never looked, I'm pretty sure I would have gone with High Priest of Hel or maybe HPOH.
ti'esar
2015-05-12, 12:38 AM
Just as a comment on this discussion, while it is pretty insignificant whether the summaries use particularly consistent terminology, it does help when searching to see how frequently a particular thing or character is mentioned in them. Which I have done in the past.
DaggerPen
2015-05-12, 01:05 AM
Inasmuch as we have a 'policy', I tend to prefer "HPOH/High Priest of Hel" as the relevant name for summaries unless "Durkon" is particularly appropriate, as in 961.
Also, I prefer Unbeliever's proposal as well.
SaintRidley
2015-05-12, 03:36 AM
Agreed - unbeliever's with the HPOH swap in.
SaintRidley
2015-05-13, 08:51 PM
985: A neophyte priestess thwarts a vampire's plan. Wait, did I just say "vampire"? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0985.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-05-18, 06:32 AM
986: Veldrina and Wrecan are on a secret, dumpling-free mission. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0986.html)
SaintRidley
2015-05-18, 12:51 PM
Needs to say something about being the forumite cameo from the kickstarter.
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-05-18, 01:09 PM
986: Cameo-flage: Kickstarter & Tribute cameos on a secret mission.
Gwynfrid
2015-05-18, 01:31 PM
Needs to say something about being the forumite cameo from the kickstarter.
I beg to differ. This needs to be recorded somewhere (such as the Index, for example), but not in the summary. The summary is a compressed version of the storyline, while the cameo explanation is commentary.
986: Cameo-flage: Kickstarter & Tribute cameos on a secret mission.
I'm afraid this way of doing it doesn't work well, for summary purposes. It's just too cryptic: Nobody will get it, except a tiny minority of forum dwellers. The summary should be focused on clarity and simplicity, imho, not on cramming in every bit of related information.
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-05-18, 01:33 PM
I'm afraid this way of doing it doesn't work well, for summary purposes. It's just too cryptic: Nobody will get it, except a tiny minority of forum dwellers. The summary should be focused on clarity and simplicity, imho, not on cramming in every bit of related information.
I agree, for what its worth, but tried anyway. :smallwink:
SaintRidley
2015-05-21, 06:06 PM
987: The High Priest of Hel tricks Roy into finding out when and where the Godsmoot is. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html)
littlebum2002
2015-05-26, 06:23 PM
Do you include "extras" in the strips? I'm trying to find the strip that has the sketch of Rich at Comic Con in it but am not seeing anything in the summaries...
Gwynfrid
2015-05-26, 09:13 PM
Do you include "extras" in the strips? I'm trying to find the strip that has the sketch of Rich at Comic Con in it but am not seeing anything in the summaries...
We don't. The purpose of the summary is to facilitate finding a particular strip, and we do that by summarizing the events in the plot. I'm not sure what sketch you're referring to, by the way. Is that the one with Rich drawing somebody's character?
littlebum2002
2015-05-26, 11:26 PM
That's the one!
FLHerne
2015-05-27, 11:53 AM
We don't. The purpose of the summary is to facilitate finding a particular strip, and we do that by summarizing the events in the plot. I'm not sure what sketch you're referring to, by the way. Is that the one with Rich drawing somebody's character?
Thing is that sometimes people want to find strips that have distinctive non-plot features without knowing exactly where they were in the story - both of the preceding things being examples of that*.
I think it would make sense to mention those in the summary where possible.
*it's #146 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0146.html) for the sketching, btw.
littlebum2002
2015-05-27, 12:34 PM
They certainly need to be either here or at the Transcription (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?338747-The-Transcription-of-the-Stick&highlight=transcription), but I'm not entirely sure which is more appropriate
Gwynfrid
2015-05-27, 12:44 PM
It would be appropriate in the transcription, I guess. Also, since it's a one-time event, I suppose we could allow it in the summary, as a footnote. But that should really remain an exception.
On the other hand, if we start adding "distinctive non-plot features", a very vague definition that would catch a very wide variety of things, then very quickly we would end up with a huge, bloated wall of text, and thus we'd defeat the purpose of the Summary. Not to mention the question, what's a "distinctive feature"? Trying to decide if something is distinctive enough would spark endless debates.
littlebum2002
2015-05-27, 02:14 PM
Well before you do all that, let me go ask Transcription what they think, because it really should be there first.
Was this the only case of an "easter egg" after the strip? It's the only one I can think of.
SaintRidley
2015-05-27, 08:23 PM
I think so.
The other sorts of distinctive not-plot features I could think of would be particularly unusual panel layouts - the strip of Roy falling, the one of the two armies having parallel conversations before the battle of Azure City, the one in the pyramid where the panel layout follows the swirl of the ensorceled eye, etc.
unbeliever536
2015-05-28, 02:51 AM
Those are indeed distinctive, but they're also easily referenced in the summaries. The summary for 887, for example, clearly mentions the layout.
SaintRidley
2015-05-28, 03:08 AM
888: Felix the fashion-adviser got everyone winter clothing. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html)
Gwynfrid
2015-05-28, 05:54 AM
Those are indeed distinctive, but they're also easily referenced in the summaries. The summary for 887, for example, clearly mentions the layout.
I agree. And even when not described as directly as that, the summaries as they exist make it easy to find those distinctive moments, because those special layouts were designed to serve the plot's dramatization: Therefore, the layout is strongly associated with the plot in the mind of the readers.
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-05-28, 06:32 AM
They certainly need to be either here or at the Transcription (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?338747-The-Transcription-of-the-Stick&highlight=transcription), but I'm not entirely sure which is more appropriate
Well before you do all that, let me go ask Transcription what they think, because it really should be there first.
Was this the only case of an "easter egg" after the strip? It's the only one I can think of.
Looks like I beat you to it! :smallamused:
Strip 146
thereaper
2015-06-02, 04:31 AM
989: Veldrina and Wrecan arrive on the Mechane while Mr. Scruffy shows the tiger who's boss. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0989.html)
TheWombatOfDoom
2015-06-02, 06:31 AM
989: Veldrina and Wrecan arrive on the Mechane while Mr. Scruffy shows the tiger who's boss. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0989.html)
Well, Roy also came back with them...shouldn't it be -
"Everyone meets back at the Mechane, and Mr. Scruffy shows the tiger who's boss?"
Gwynfrid
2015-06-02, 06:46 AM
Well, Roy also came back with them...shouldn't it be -
"Everyone meets back at the Mechane, and Mr. Scruffy shows the tiger who's boss?"
I think it would be good to include the tiger's name. Also, the summary can be made even more compact by removing some words without changing the meaning:
"Back on the Mechane, Mr. Scruffy shows Little Whiskers who's boss."
Gwynfrid
2015-06-12, 07:33 AM
990: Roy is of two guts about Durkon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0990.html)
rodneyAnonymous
2015-06-15, 09:08 PM
"Back on the Mechane, Mr. Scruffy shows Little Whiskers who's boss."
While most or all readers should be aware that Mr. Scruffy is the name of a housecat, it's less-well-known that Little Whiskers is the name of a tiger, which I think is important for that sentiment to be communicated clearly. The intention was probably the symmetry of using both given names, but I think it would be better to use both species' common names. I suggest "Back on the Mechane, the housecat shows the tiger who's boss."
By the way, this index has been extremely useful to me.
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