Barbie (the doll) build!

[Dusk Eclipse]

Inspired by the other thread of similar name and to avoid more derailment, how would you guys build a character based on the doll.

So far we have these ideas:

Thrallherd using the psionic sandwich doll trick and having little girls as her thralls, prime BBEG material if do say so myself.

Aristocrat for all your npc's needs.

Factotum with a 1/day item of Psionic reformation to change profession on a dime.

Any more ideas?

[Trilby]

I need to give you a 'less than three' for this, so here goes: <3
I want Factotum!Barbie

[dascarletm]

Barbie would indeed be a factotum. She is shown to be competent in a wide variety of occupations.

[Telonius]

Willing Deformity and Deformity (Gaunt) from BoVD might be appropriate.

Leadership to get Ken as a cohort.

[Vaz]

Thrallherd Psionic Sandwich to literally be the doll?

Derp already included.

[wegga77]

Ahhhh.... Now I get it. That's very funny actually. :-)

[Dusk Eclipse]

How about factotum 3/telepath 2/thrallherd 10/ telepath +5? Just enough to get 8th level powers, brains over brawn and you get tons of minions. Ken can be your first thrall, probably some sort of melee fighter to protect you while you prepare the ritual to transfer to your mind into a specially prepared construct to house your conciousness so your reign will last forever.

[Vaz]

Not sure brains over brawn really fits barbie. I mean have you played the games?

Um...

Me neither...

[Dusk Eclipse]

I was just going for a semi-decent build, you can always drop 2 levels and then you get 9th level powers.

[Chronos]

She's definitely some sort of jack-of-all-trades, but intelligence doesn't fit her as well as charisma does. Bard, maybe?

[Kaje]

Yeah, can we give her a CHA-base instead of INT? Does Thrallherd work with Wilder?

[Dusk Eclipse]

It works, you loose some overall power but it definitely fits better.

[Hangwind]

With the idea of flexibility and being a CHA-based build, wouldn't Binder be a better fit?

Definitely need to suppress the sign though.:smallbiggrin:

[nedz]

Urban Druid who Wildshapes into a Construct.

or

Warforged, with the plastic plating feat, Factotum / Exemplar

Ken is just too boring I'm afraid.

[Dr. Azkur]

CHA-based and INT-based spellcasting both depend on the concept of what we're building. Is she an evil being who controls people while being a seemingly common doll? Or is she a D&D adaptation of the character portrayed in media?

The former case obviously requires high INT, though I wouldn't dump CHA.

The later case calls of CHA heavily, as you well noted, dumping INT or not depends if you're going Factorum/Chameleon, obviously. (She also needs Deformity Gaunt, no matter what)

Either way let's settle for one concept or the other, not both, or we'll end up with a weird mash.

EDIT: Ken is a straight Paladin. And I mean "Straight" as in, he doesn't multiclass.

EDIT2: http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/183/2/6/detail_neptune_fantasy_barbie_by_snowdreamuu-d3kqbsn.jpg

[Telonius]

If Barbie has Deformity: Gaunt, Ken would have to be a Paladin of Tyranny or Slaughter.

[Shining Wrath]

Barbie would indeed be a factotum. She is shown to be competent in a wide variety of occupations.

None involving math, though. Algebra is hard.

[Dr. Azkur]

If Barbie has Deformity: Gaunt, Ken would have to be a Paladin of Tyranny or Slaughter.

He can be a classic one:

"But your aura is pulsating red! Red means evil, my dad used to tell me all the time!"
"Ken, Dear. We have talked about this. You suffer from daltonism"
"Ohhhhhhhhhh. You're right Barbie, you're always right and you're so smart and beautiful, that's why I love you."

[Zweisteine]

Barbie is the type of person with a Charisma so high that it loops back around to the bottom. As in, she's so incredibly beautiful/charming that nobody trusts her at all. Either that, or she's beautiful/charming to the point of being creepy. Mind you, to call Barbie beautiful is a stretch by any sense of the word.

For race, possibly Amminon (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310945). They've got the too-skinny thing down pat. The extra-dimensional spaces are filled with items to boost whatever skill she needs at any given time, explaining the changing professions.

Maybe she's a Succubus Polymorphed (via PAO) into a human. Duration factor 9 reached by same/lower intelligence (+2), same size (+2), same kingdom (+5). Of course, there's a good bit of rules-lawyering involved, saying a succubus and a human are of the same kingdom, but the spell lists only three: animal, plant, and mineral. It says "etc" after the list for same class, so one can only assume that there are but the three kingdoms to choose from.

[dascarletm]

None involving math, though. Algebra is hard.

All I know is that she passed med school at one point (http://www.lynneslovables.com/Toys%20R%20Us/Career%20Collection%20Dr%20Barbie.jpg).

Seems to have specialized as an OBGYN

[Dr. Azkur]

Maybe she's a Succubus Polymorphed (vie PAO) into a human. Duration factor 9 reached by same/lower intelligence (+2), same size (+2), same kingdom (+5). Of course, there's a good bit or rules-lawyering involved, saying a succubus and a human are of the same kingdom, but the spell lists only three: animal, plant, and mineral. It says "etc" after the list for same class, so one can only assume that there are but the three kingdoms to choose from.

That is so classic medieval science. Minerals are not even alive. Well I guess it's alright when there are things like Warforged running around.

[Slipperychicken]

Ken is just too boring I'm afraid.

Maybe Ken is just a regular follower, while her "real" cohort is G.I. Joe, who is actually good at fighting?

[Dr. Azkur]

Maybe Ken is just a regular follower, while her "real" cohort is G.I. Joe, who is actually good at fighting?

We are reaching whole new levels now.

How would you guys do G.I. Joe? (Actually I never touched one, around here the popular dude is Max Steel).

I liked Ken as an Int 3 LG Paladin though...

[Magatsu Izanagi]

How would you guys do G.I. Joe? (Actually I never touched one, around here the popular dude is Max Steel).
If we can use PF and d20 Modern stuff, first instinct would be to go for trench fighter (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/trench-fighter), with the trench warfare bonuses applying to specific firearm models (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html#rangedweapons). G.I. Joe would also need some sort of unarmed combat capability, but would a monk dip really be worth it?

[Slipperychicken]

If we can use PF and d20 Modern stuff, first instinct would be to go for trench fighter (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/trench-fighter), with the trench warfare bonuses applying to specific firearm models (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/modern/smack/weapons.html#rangedweapons). G.I. Joe would also need some sort of unarmed combat capability, but would a monk dip really be worth it?

He's from a "guns everywhere" setting, so Gunslinger 1 would get him Dex to damage again. He's probably using some kind of magic Pepperbox Rifle, the Modern Firearms (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/firearms/modern-firearms) rules, or the d20 modern firearms rules.

[grarrrg]

Inspired by the other thread of similar name and to avoid more derailment, how would you guys build a character based on the doll.

I feel very directly responsible for the existence of this thread.

Also responsible for the mass derailing of the last thread


Any more ideas?

Well, the classes are pretty well down. "Jack of all Trades" type stuff.

What about stats?

Charisma: Main stat. First and foremost she is a fashion diva. She has got it "going on". She has also been a rockstar, and more princesses than I can name (the kid, she has DVD's...).

Intelligence: Above-average to High, she has got SKILLS man, she can do _anything_. Chick has had more jobs than freakin Mario!

Strength: Average, none of her jobs are very physical, and she is pretty dang skinny, not a lot of muscle bulk there (muscle tone yes, heck yes).

Constitution: Above Average, between the aerobics, the bicycling, the horseback riding the....she has good stamina and could jazzercize you like you wouldn't believe.

Wisdom: I got nothing.

Dexterity: This one could go either way.
If we're playing up the "doll" angle, then her DEX should be about a 2 > lack of points of articulation.
If we're going 'realistic-ish' (or using one of the more bendy 'aerobics' dolls), then this could be almost as high as her CHA score.


How would you guys do G.I. Joe?
He's from a "guns everywhere" setting, so Gunslinger 1 would get him Dex to damage again.
I wouldn't bother trying to get DEX to damage. With a penalty that big G.I.Joe would NEVER kill anything...
Cartoon accuracy joke!

[Rubik]

And Barbie does, of course, ride a kickass flutter pony from G1 MLP (the show was surprisingly grim, and it had more on-screen deaths than any other children's show of the '80s, as far as I know), and GI Joe should have a Transformer for his vehicle/siege weapon of choice.

A unicorn nomad and a warforged egoist, for super-mobility teleportation and more-than-meets-the-eye goodness we all love, respectively?