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Totema
2014-01-24, 02:20 AM
And what stats and abilities would you give them?

My current favorite is a werewhale. Mildly inconvenient if you lived in a landlocked area. Not really sure how to stat it, but I'll get to it eventually.

Aegis013
2014-01-24, 02:24 AM
Not exactly 3.P, but in a hybrid card/strategy game created by my brother and myself I had a creature called the Shaman Were-Tuna. I was using a lycanthropy theme and the Were-Tuna could use up the players hit points to return dead monsters to the field. It ended up being too powerful.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 02:25 AM
And what stats and abilities would you give them?

My current favorite is a werewhale. Mildly inconvenient if you lived in a landlocked area. Not really sure how to stat it, but I'll get to it eventually.How about a kender wereweasel?

He'll climb up your pants leg when you're not looking and steal your family's jewels.

Bullet06320
2014-01-24, 02:27 AM
were-sheep they go baaaaaaaaa

were-bunny im thinking some sort of monty python reference about a vorpal bunny would be good here

would love to do a were-rhino with a gore attack and trample

were-modron theres just thing wrong about that

Rubik
2014-01-24, 02:28 AM
Anthropomorphic monkey weremonkey monk?

Alent
2014-01-24, 02:29 AM
Female were-dwarf half dragon pixie?

Rubik
2014-01-24, 02:37 AM
Kobold werefleshraker druid? This little lizard guy gets P.O.'d and suddenly turns into a BIG lizard guy that can tear your face off and poison you while doing so, not to mention his ability to turn your blood to acid using Venomfire at the same time.

Worira
2014-01-24, 02:41 AM
I was going to suggest werewhale myself. In 3.5, at least, they're actually incredibly powerful, since they can walk around on land without any problems in hybrid form, plus have arms. Also they pretty much have to be a storm or cloud giant to start with, which means their strength ends up utterly absurd. Or an athach, I suppose.

Another particularly goofy werecreature would be a wereoctopus or weresquid. Which would also be a bit of a rules headache (again, in 3.5), since they have some unusual rules attached to them.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 02:43 AM
Add the weretyrannosaurus template to Tiny (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132294).

Totema
2014-01-24, 03:01 AM
How about a kender wereweasel?

Isn't that a little... redundant?

Rubik
2014-01-24, 03:06 AM
Isn't that a little... redundant?I would've just gone druid, but the O.P. asked for werecritters, so that's what I went with.

bekeleven
2014-01-24, 03:10 AM
Anthropomorphic monkey weremonkey monk?

Sadly not possible. Anthro animals are monstrous humanoids.

Tvtyrant
2014-01-24, 03:18 AM
Sadly not possible. Anthro animals are monstrous humanoids.

Dragonborn anthropomorphic moneky weremonkey? OR a why monkey?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100811002345/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/4/44/Whywolf-glasses.png

Terazul
2014-01-24, 03:26 AM
Were-snail, or were-slug. Possible if you're using entomanothropes. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a)

On the opposite end of the spectrum, one of the cooler ones is Were-Murder of Crows.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 03:30 AM
Isn't there a book that states that swarms (loves?) of doves are immune to weapon damage?

Halfling weredove swarm.

ZamielVanWeber
2014-01-24, 03:31 AM
Is were murder of crows actually legal by RAW? It sounds sweet.

Also I too intended to say were whale. Freaky.

Jeff the Green
2014-01-24, 03:32 AM
Halfling were-chicken. With Craven, of course.


Isn't there a book that states that swarms (loves?) of doves are immune to weapon damage?

Halfling weredove swarm.

ToM, and it's called a 'pitying' there, apparently.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 03:36 AM
Halfling were-chicken. With Craven, of course.Make sure your first level is in commoner for Infested With Chickens. Then go cleric and take Fell Drain and Fell Animate, as well as the feat that makes undead you create explode when they're killed.

Hen Grenades: The Other Wight Meat!

Bullet06320
2014-01-24, 03:41 AM
Halfling were-chicken. With Craven, of course.

as long as its a chicken infested commoner

doh!!!!!! rubik beat me

lsfreak
2014-01-24, 03:42 AM
Were-snail, or were-slug. Possible if you're using entomanothropes. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a)

That's exactly what I was going to say. Weremoths with rules about being attracted to lights.

Were-swarm-of-hummingbirds is probably about the goofiest-looking bird I can come up with, but hummingbirds are also ferocious little ****s so might manage to actually be rather effective. Werechameleons might be the silliest squamate, but I wouldn't be surprised if with rules about the tongue thing some crazy person would find a way to make it work.

Goofiest crocodilian is obvious there were-crocoduck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatosuchus).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Anatosuchus.jpg

BeerMug Paladin
2014-01-24, 03:50 AM
Wereneanderthal? Wereclam? Werefly-amanita? (I think the hybrid form would look like this (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKeq4Ev8_L6FYkMrY5dA0zyjc0Yzhnz R_ZyjVyDeb8Zx0mRGmi)) Werebutterfly? Weredodo? There's pretty much no limit to coming up with ridiculous ideas for werecreatures, just because there's a lot of ridiculous life forms out there, and also most kinds of life would be weird to cross over with human bodies.

chainer1216
2014-01-24, 03:52 AM
i've always wanted to stat out/play a were-armadillo.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 03:57 AM
Weredodo?I totally misread that one. :smalleek:

Also, wereplatypus.

MightyPirate
2014-01-24, 04:06 AM
Werecow, racial bonus to Craft (Cheese)

BeerMug Paladin
2014-01-24, 04:07 AM
I totally misread that one. :smalleek:

Also, wereplatypus.
Indeed. Just be glad I didn't make another suggestion.

Imagine strolling into town and having the party find giant smelly spheres all around town. The townsfolk are nervous and afraid to go out at night, and all the cesspools in the town slums are empty. After the party is given an appropriate knowledge (arcane) check, the wizard informs the party in a dramatic tone just what kind of crappy dilemma they're in.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 04:12 AM
Indeed. Just be glad I didn't make another suggestion.

Imagine strolling into town and having the party find giant smelly spheres all around town. The townsfolk are nervous and afraid to go out at night, and all the cesspools in the town slums are empty. After the party is given an appropriate knowledge (arcane) check, the wizard informs the party in a dramatic tone just what kind of crappy dilemma they're in.You can say "dung beetle," you know.

Krazzman
2014-01-24, 04:56 AM
Were-Chameleon seems awesome. Bonus to Stealth, Bonus to climb, Can do stuff with your tongue...

Were-Hippo would be funny too.

Or imagine a Werecentipede...
A Bard Were-Centipede that calls himself the Millipede... and lives in a secret base on the moon...

A were-anteater.... or a Were-Kiwi might be funny too...

unseenmage
2014-01-24, 04:58 AM
Warforged Scout Were-Winged Warforged

Allows my Unslotted Embedded Warforged Components to be used in both forms.

Uses the Were-anything template from Advanced Bestiary.

And yeah, I'm currently using this in a game. :smalltongue:

Khosan
2014-01-24, 05:26 AM
Wereoctopus sounds like a fun one. Mostly because you get to be Octodad (http://www.octodadgame.com/).

Also, werenoceros is just fun to say (even if it should be wererhinoceros).

nedz
2014-01-24, 05:33 AM
We had a Were Dolphin in a game once. It was cute.

Dr. Cliché
2014-01-24, 06:14 AM
I'll suggest a were-invisible-stalker.

(Also known as the Wherewolf.)


How about a kender wereweasel?

He'll climb up your pants leg when you're not looking and steal your family's jewels.

This made me smile. :smallbiggrin:


Something of an aside, but the fact that all were-creatures are grouped as 'lycanthropes' confuses me. Why not just call them all werewolves? :smallconfused:

Heliomance
2014-01-24, 06:40 AM
Storm Giant Were-Roc

Rubik
2014-01-24, 06:44 AM
A bard werebee. To bee or not to bee; that is the question.

How about a blue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/blue.htm) hedgehog monk?

avr
2014-01-24, 07:49 AM
Commoner werecat. Confuse the ancient question as to which would win a fight utterly.

nedz
2014-01-24, 08:38 AM
Anthropomorphic Elephant Were Mouse, it scares itself as it changes.

Yes I know this doesn't work due to size

Milo v3
2014-01-24, 08:41 AM
For medium races:
Werecamel
Weretoad (Dire Toad)
Weresloth (Forest Sloth)
Wereray (Manta Ray)
Wereoctopus
Weredolphin (Porpoise)
Weresail (Sail Snake)
Weresnakes (Viper Swarm)
Weremurder (Murder of Crows)
Werequeen (Giant Ant Queen) = Remember to give this to guys
WereLeeches (Leechwalker)

Telonius
2014-01-24, 08:48 AM
The "April Fools" issue of Dragon that contained the infamous Chicken-Infested flaw also contained the "Were-sheep" flaw. :smallbiggrin:

graeylin
2014-01-24, 11:34 AM
Were-clam was taken, so...

Were-sponge. Were-coral. Were-shrimp. Were-flea.

Ansem
2014-01-24, 11:44 AM
Awakened Were-Potato.

lunar2
2014-01-24, 12:05 PM
How about a blue (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/blue.htm) hedgehog monk?

thread won.

Heliomance
2014-01-24, 12:20 PM
What the hell would a wereswarm's hybrid form look like?

zilonox
2014-01-24, 12:50 PM
The idea of a were-giant octopus monk made me giddy, until I realized it would not gain the improved grab or constrict SA's in hybrid form. :smallsigh:

Jgosse
2014-01-24, 12:50 PM
wereankylosaurus
you are never unarmed or unarmored.

Psyren
2014-01-24, 12:54 PM
Asswere. (http://www.headinjurytheater.com/article73.htm)

The funniest one that made it to 3.5 for me was the Werebear. Just the thought of some evil or neutral guy who screams every full moon and transforms into a hulking beast that helps little old ladies cross the street.

Jgosse
2014-01-24, 12:55 PM
wereankylosaurus
you are never unarmed or unarmored.

and this is what it would look like.
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs33/f/2008/240/b/8/Anthrosaurs_Male_Ankylosaurus_by_predaguy.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs34/f/2008/240/f/b/Anthrosaurs_Fem_Ankylosaurus_by_predaguy.jpg

nedz
2014-01-24, 01:36 PM
Goofiest ?

Weredog, though technically he's an anthropomorphic dog.

Coidzor
2014-01-24, 01:38 PM
Going by actual predators/scavengers or just any animal?

Because a were-platypus probably just wins if we open it up to every animal. Maybe Were-Sponge if we extend the whole animal thing really far?

Segev
2014-01-24, 01:58 PM
"Weresquid" and "wereoctopus" are my first thoughts when these sorts of threads pop up. Then I recall that the rules mean that you don't gain the [aquatic] subtype...even in animal form. Which means you can't breathe in the water.

And that you don't get multiple arms except in animal form; you have the two claws and bite routine that hybrid form explicitly gives you.

Furthermore, you can make an ink cloud that hangs in the air; this is just plain weird.

Malimar
2014-01-24, 02:02 PM
The goofiest I've actually seen used in a game was a werepenguin.

Shining Wrath
2014-01-24, 02:14 PM
Were-human. No one will ever suspect.

Were-sorcerer. When the moon is full you can cast a full suite of spontaneous spells, the rest of the time you're a commoner.

Icewraith
2014-01-24, 02:21 PM
If you have an Ettin wereanything, does it gain two bite attacks? Or maybe each head has its own form of lycanthropy.

This breaks all of the rules, but...

Tauric Squid Owlbear Werewhale

Unfortunately Tauric changes the creature's type to monstrous humanoid, making it immune to lycanthropy, and a Lycanthrope's type becomes shapechanger, disqualifying it from becoming a Tauric creature.

I'm curious though, if some rules wrangling or template stacking could get us a Tauric Werecreature Dragonwrought Kobold Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote Incarnate Construct?

nedz
2014-01-24, 03:16 PM
Tauric Squid Owlbear Werewhale
Is the Owlbear the top or the bottom ?


Unfortunately Tauric changes the creature's type to monstrous humanoid, making it immune to lycanthropy, and a Lycanthrope's type becomes shapechanger, disqualifying it from becoming a Tauric creature.

I'm curious though, if some rules wrangling or template stacking could get us a Tauric Werecreature Dragonwrought Kobold Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote Incarnate Construct?

Half-Troll is what you need, this changes almost anything to a Giant.

Half-Troll Tauric Dragonwrought Kobold Squid Werewhale perhaps ?

Ed:
adding brackets for clarity
Half-Troll ( Tauric ( (Dragonwrought Kobold), Squid) ) Werewhale

Heliomance
2014-01-24, 04:52 PM
If you have an Ettin wereanything, does it gain two bite attacks? Or maybe each head has its own form of lycanthropy.

This breaks all of the rules, but...

Tauric Squid Owlbear Werewhale

Unfortunately Tauric changes the creature's type to monstrous humanoid, making it immune to lycanthropy, and a Lycanthrope's type becomes shapechanger, disqualifying it from becoming a Tauric creature.

I'm curious though, if some rules wrangling or template stacking could get us a Tauric Werecreature Dragonwrought Kobold Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote Incarnate Construct?

Shapechanger type doesn't exist in 3.5. The Lycanthrope template doesn't change the creature's type; it merely adds the shapechanger subtype.

Icewraith
2014-01-24, 05:53 PM
Hmm. In that case, both tauric and lycanthrope specify an animal... hmm. Tauric doesn't work with giants.

Also I think there's a size issue with whales. To further clarify your suggested order...

You could probably do

Tauric(dragonwrought kobold/squid)

Tauric(dragonwrought kobold/squid) Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote

Half-Troll Tauric(dragonwrought kobold/squid) Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote

Half-Troll Tauric(dragonwrought kobold/squid) Dread Blossom Swarm Symbiote
were something +draconic rite of passage etc.

Does half-troll increase size? If no we're limited to Large were-creatures unless we can fit some more templates that do increase size in there before applying lycanthrope to get whale. Sharks, perhaps- I think orcas are huge? Or, y'know, something simple like Tiger for pounce.

Edit: Applying the symbiote in the middle is slightly problematic, but the thing about creatures that form a symbiotic relationship is that the same relationship can be passed down to the kids quite easily.. almost as if the template was "inherited". Once it's a giant or dragon it's no longer a valid target for symbiote, which merges humanoid, animal, plant, and/or vermin.

nedz
2014-01-24, 06:05 PM
Half Troll

Inherited Template that can be added to any Animal, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, or Outsider.

It doesn't increase size, just makes you Giant type. Giant type is acceptable for Lycanthrope.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 06:11 PM
Anthropomorphic Elephant Were Mouse, it scares itself as it changes.

Yes I know this doesn't work due to sizeAccording to Mythbusters, elephants actually are scared of mice.

And a half-troll pixie lycanthrope would be the RAW-compliant wherewolf, whereas a half-troll anthropomorphic monkey weremonkey monk (who is, of course, a skillmonkey) would take care of my earlier idea handily.

Kennisiou
2014-01-24, 06:14 PM
Chicken-Infested WereChicken (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307829)

Rubik
2014-01-24, 06:18 PM
Chicken-Infested WereChicken (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307829)We did that already.

Well, there's nothing saying that you can't apply the template multiple times.

Combine a werewolf, a werehawk, and a rainbow to get:http://gryphonking.aelfhame.net/art/games/senmurv.jpg

Telonius
2014-01-24, 06:19 PM
Were-giraffe would be pretty ridiculous. I'd have it grant 15-foot reach for any bite attack.

Were-moose. Let the Monty Python quotes begin!

Meth In a Mine
2014-01-24, 06:28 PM
Weregigantocypris. This little aquatic crustacean is the size of a pea and has no appendages whatsoever. It just drifts.

Dr. Azkur
2014-01-24, 06:34 PM
Going back to the Werewhale
I posted this already in another thread but here it goes
http://cdn.wolfire.com/legacy/whaleman.jpg

Also to create the Holy Grail's killer bunny I'd go Were-bunny, take Willing Deformity (Teeth) -which fits since it's the most evil being ever-, throw a couple of levels of Warblade to get Sudden Leap and Leaping Dragon Stance while maxing out Jump. From there go Full Kensai and put every weapon enchantment on your Bite attack, including Vorpal, and that thing that lets you score a 20 for free. Fill up with Warshaper.

Alternatively go Warblade 20 and wait till you get Feral Death Blow, which is pretty much what it does.

roguemetal
2014-01-24, 06:39 PM
I ran a campaign with a Were-Penguin Apostle of Peace Evangelist once.
They would sneak off at night to spread the word of Fish.

Jergmo
2014-01-24, 11:26 PM
Were-platypus.

Perhaps give badgers a swim speed, remove the rage ability, and give them a Poison attack.

Edit: Ninja'd by Rubik, but there's an easy way to stat a platypus.

Rubik
2014-01-24, 11:47 PM
Were-platypus.

Perhaps give badgers a swim speed, remove the rage ability, and give them a Poison attack.I'm really glad I swordsaged everyone on that, given how popular it seems to be.

A were-dire mosquito? Use the basic stats for a stirge but adapt it to being Vermin? Although, being a were-mosquito would really suck.

And there's definitely a reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemipenis) for nearly any man to want snake lycanthropy. I'd suggest a spitting cobra. Are there any flying snakes with the Animal type in D&D?

Milo v3
2014-01-24, 11:58 PM
Are there any flying snakes with the Animal type in D&D?

Sailsnake, I mentioned it earlier in the thread.

hamishspence
2014-01-25, 04:53 AM
According to Mythbusters, elephants actually are scared of mice.

TV Tropes on this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EekAMouse

It was tested by the Mythbusters. Myth Plausible.

If a mouse is brought close and shown to an elephant, however, it's generally not alarmed in the slightest, and may even lift the rodent in its trunk for a better view. The reality may be that elephants are wary of any small moving critter on the ground, just in case it turns out to be something a lot nastier than a mouse (e.g. a scorpion or coiled-up cobra).

deuxhero
2014-01-25, 05:05 AM
Were-desert grassland whiptail lizard... on a male.

Novawurmson
2014-01-25, 08:25 AM
Wererat ratfolk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-ratfolk).

It's a rat person that can turn into...a RAT PERSON! (thunder crash)

BWR
2014-01-25, 08:54 AM
were-sheep they go baaaaaaaaa

They already made a movie. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4PkMPAlMFo)

Coidzor
2014-01-25, 09:48 AM
Wererat ratfolk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-ratfolk).

It's a rat person that can turn into...a RAT PERSON! (thunder crash)

Isn't there some sort of foppish fox-person race with a really silly name that have a humanoid type, so unlike the silliness of, say, a Werewolf Lupin, they're legal targets without adding half-troll?

12owlbears
2014-01-25, 10:43 AM
Has any one mentioned a wearjellyfish yet?

Coidzor
2014-01-25, 12:07 PM
Has any one mentioned a wearjellyfish yet?

I don't believe so. The closest were were-cephalopods and were-poriferans.

Were-Starfish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzOXtXm8p0) might be interesting?

Dr. Cliché
2014-01-25, 12:18 PM
Has any one mentioned a wearjellyfish yet?

No - I thought the concept was a bit too shaky.

NightbringerGGZ
2014-01-25, 12:21 PM
Were-Naked Mole Rats! They have hive minds!

Coidzor
2014-01-25, 12:33 PM
No - I thought the concept was a bit too shaky.

More floppy, I'd say.

Fates
2014-01-25, 12:44 PM
I once played as a kobolds were-velociraptor, IIRC. Lots of fun, that.

Immabozo
2014-01-25, 12:52 PM
I did not read all three pages, but,


Another particularly goofy werecreature would be a wereoctopus or weresquid. Which would also be a bit of a rules headache (again, in 3.5), since they have some unusual rules attached to them.

Please note something I haven't seen anyone say. the jet ability mentions no need to be in water for it to work.


Werecow, racial bonus to Craft (Cheese)

I read a thread where th DM had his players searching through a field and what they were looking for was at a cow's feet. The one who picked it up got bitten by an evil inter-dimensional demonic were-cow

My contribution to this discussion? Were-penguins.

Like him (https://www.google.com/search?q=batman+penguin&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS432US432&espv=210&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=p9hO1z-z8DUniM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9 GcTi3Yw8L39l9Qx3j7MrSFMzSE2YHL14e4RLr7zuXH6IuKoMYR nF%253B320%253B400%253BdmL646w30vjzTM%253Bhttp%252 53A%25252F%25252Fbatman.wikia.com%25252Fwiki%25252 FThe_Penguin_(Danny_DeVito)&sa=X&ei=cvnjUtOTMMXqoASthoL4Cg&ved=0CCsQ9QEwAQ&biw=1366&bih=642#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=gxPb3mDCz9X22M%253A%3BKCo8BAcgdBNmHM%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fhouseofgeekery.files.wordpress.com%2 52F2012%252F08%252Fpenguin1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%2 52Fhouseofgeekery.com%252F2012%252F08%252F23%252Fb atman-villains-burton%252F%3B360%3B205)

Yora
2014-01-25, 01:13 PM
A german band made a song about a were-tapeworm.

Phelix-Mu
2014-01-25, 02:01 PM
Were-winged snake.

iceman10058
2014-01-26, 04:01 AM
could you make a weredragon?

Rubik
2014-01-26, 04:23 AM
could you make a weredragon?Do creatures with the Dragon type have the Animal type?

nedz
2014-01-26, 04:26 AM
Not without stacking Templates in front of the Dragon to make it an Animal; because that's all Lycanthrope can apply to.

Manly Man
2014-01-26, 04:40 AM
Isn't there some sort of foppish fox-person race with a really silly name that have a humanoid type, so unlike the silliness of, say, a Werewolf Lupin, they're legal targets without adding half-troll?

Kitsune (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-kitsune)?

CIDE
2014-01-26, 04:41 AM
**** the rules about animal types. Were-tarrasque. That explains it all! It skips generations and is genetic. Some unknowing commoner on a fated full moon succumbs to his heritage and descends onto the nearest populated area to begin consumption.

Dayaz
2014-01-26, 04:44 AM
Normally, I would say were-amoeba... but then i remember, that would be adding the Ooze type to yourself, and that by itself is terrifying

Rubik
2014-01-26, 04:47 AM
**** the rules about animal types. Were-tarrasque. That explains it all! It skips generations and is genetic. Some unknowing commoner on a fated full moon succumbs to his heritage and descends onto the nearest populated area to begin consumption.Try using tauric rather than lycanthrope. Basically, the opposite of this:http://blogs.lt.vt.edu/lightmeetsthedark/files/2013/03/big_head_little_arms_small.jpg

Coidzor
2014-01-26, 09:54 AM
Kitsune (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-kitsune)?

Older than Pathfinder, I believe, and Kitsune doesn't really sound silly to say anymore after over a decade of watching anime. Their art on that page definitely strikes me as silly for some reason I'm not going to spend enough time on to determine though, I suppose. XD

The Trickster
2014-01-26, 10:03 AM
Weregoldfish. It won't get flushed down the toilet without a fight.

Heliomance
2014-01-26, 10:51 AM
Not without stacking Templates in front of the Dragon to make it an Animal; because that's all Lycanthrope can apply to.

I've looked before - there is no template that grants Animal type, I'm pretty sure.

nedz
2014-01-26, 12:26 PM
I've looked before - there is no template that grants Animal type, I'm pretty sure.

I hadn't checked, having checked: you appear to be right.

Socksy
2014-01-26, 12:58 PM
Wererat ratfolk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-ratfolk).

It's a rat person that can turn into...a RAT PERSON! (thunder crash)

I see your rat and raise you a bear (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272738).

Immabozo
2014-01-26, 12:58 PM
I hadn't checked, having checked: you appear to be right.

I have checked. Animal is the bottom of the type pyramid. Once you loose it, you cannot, by RAW, get it back.

bekeleven
2014-01-26, 01:23 PM
I have checked. Animal is the bottom of the type pyramid. Once you loose it, you cannot, by RAW, get it back.

I think the 3.5 templating rules obsoleted the 3.0 type pyramid.

Immabozo
2014-01-26, 01:38 PM
I think the 3.5 templating rules obsoleted the 3.0 type pyramid.

Regardless, there is no template that gives the animal type.

The Oni
2014-01-26, 03:08 PM
Were-water-bear!

Rubik
2014-01-26, 04:07 PM
Were-water-bear!Were-honey badger. Were-pedo bear?

Dr. Cliché
2014-01-26, 04:20 PM
Were-carebear.

Milo v3
2014-01-26, 08:51 PM
Were-water-bear!

.... Doesn't that grant invincibility :smalleek:

Rubik
2014-01-26, 08:53 PM
.... Doesn't that grant invincibility :smalleek:Yeah, but you have to be Fine size to take the template. And there aren't any Fine sized Humanoids or Giants, which means you need the half-troll template.

Don't ask how that works. Just...don't.

Milo v3
2014-01-26, 08:54 PM
Yeah, but you have to be Fine size to take the template. And there aren't any Fine sized Humanoids or Giants, which means you need the half-troll template.

Don't ask how that works. Just...don't.

Diminutive, but still.

Rubik
2014-01-26, 08:55 PM
Diminutive, but still.Well, since water bears are microscopic, you kind of need a Fine+ category in there.

Milo v3
2014-01-26, 08:57 PM
Well, since water bears are microscopic, you kind of need a Fine+ category in there.

You'd hope so, but by default it'd be fine since it's anything below "x". X being a measurement I'm too lazy to look up.

Immabozo
2014-01-26, 11:47 PM
Yeah, but you have to be Fine size to take the template. And there aren't any Fine sized Humanoids or Giants, which means you need the half-troll template.

Don't ask how that works. Just...don't.

Any giant can be fine sized! Have you ever read the spell "Return to Nature"? Permanently reduces the size category by 1, can be cast over and over.

CIDE
2014-01-27, 12:14 AM
Weregoldfish. It won't get flushed down the toilet without a fight.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/polls/779000/779848_1311215766719_full.jpg

Rubik
2014-01-27, 12:23 AM
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/polls/779000/779848_1311215766719_full.jpgZe zpoiler! Eet doz nozzing!

Deathkeeper
2014-01-27, 12:38 AM
Were-Kangaroo!
People might not take you seriously, but just wait until they realize how much of a boost to movement speed it gives. Bonus points if you're a monk or Brawler.

Immabozo
2014-01-27, 12:51 AM
Were-Kangaroo!
People might not take you seriously, but just wait until they realize how much of a boost to movement speed it gives. Bonus points if you're a monk or Brawler.

Brawler? What is that from? Also, where is the kangaroo statted?

Deathkeeper
2014-01-27, 12:58 AM
Brawler? What is that from? Also, where is the kangaroo statted?

Fighter Pathfinder archetype, and pathfinder.
I think they also reused the name for the class in the PF book being playtested right now.

Ruethgar
2014-01-27, 01:15 AM
A lot of people seem to be forgetting the size and type constraints of were creatures. Apart from sheep, only omnivores and carnivores can be were-beasts and they must be within one size of the humanoid. Kobolds may work with slight build as tiny humanoids. Tibbits are tiny in their true form(some may argue that it has to be within one step of all forms or just the humanoid form but w/e). So diminutive and greater.

That said. Were-toad, just imagine a half cat half toad running around.

rmnimoc
2014-01-27, 01:24 AM
Were-Megaraptor, because 3.5 and pathfinder don't have Giant Space Hamsters.

OldTrees1
2014-01-27, 01:54 AM
Tiny Monsterous Spider Entomanothrope _small race_
Also comes in Scorpion and Centipede varieties

Rubik
2014-01-27, 04:30 AM
Were-Kangaroo!
People might not take you seriously, but just wait until they realize how much of a boost to movement speed it gives. Bonus points if you're a monk or Brawler.Why wouldn't anyone take a kangaroo seriously? Kangaroos live in Australia, which is filled to bursting with intensely lethal creatures, both plant and animal, which automatically boosts their badass quotient to "oh my god, we're all going to die" levels. With those hind-legs and massive, sharp rear claws, they're easily capable of disemboweling a human in one kick, or shattering any bone in the body using the same.

Just because they tend towards non-aggression and run doesn't mean they aren't just as potentially lethal as anything else in Australia (and are moreso than some).

dragonkingofthe
2014-01-27, 05:37 AM
Wolf-wer

the wolf who becomes a man under a full moon!

Deathkeeper
2014-01-27, 08:09 AM
Actually, Ruethgar, in PF at least the clause about only creatures which can eat meat is not included in the guidelines for making a lycanthrope.

And just because an animal can hit doesn't mean it will. According to The Internet, the total recorded deaths by kangaroo in history can be counted on one hand.
But assuming that fantasy characters don't know that, it's because they look like weird, giant bipedal rabbits or rats, and most folks will probably not take any lycanthrope seriously if it's an herbivore.

Metahuman1
2014-01-27, 08:32 AM
Blue Were Platypus sounds awesome to me. Maybe as a Factotum with a dip into swordsage.

Coidzor
2014-01-27, 03:48 PM
A lot of people seem to be forgetting the size and type constraints of were creatures.

Making a lot of assumptions here. :smalltongue:

unseenmage
2014-01-27, 04:07 PM
I wonder if would be cool if magical lycanthropy were opened up to the animal forms being instead any unintelligent nonhumanoid undead or construct...

Could certainly make for some interesting horrifying combinations.


Think I'll start a thread for this and use them next session.
Thanks for the idea. :smallbiggrin:

Dr. Cliché
2014-01-27, 04:12 PM
I wonder if would be cool if magical lycanthropy were opened up to the animal forms being instead any unintelligent nonhumanoid undead or construct...

Could certainly make for some interesting horrifying combinations.

Isn't there a template in one of the books for that?

unseenmage
2014-01-27, 04:20 PM
Isn't there a template in one of the books for that?

There's a third party book with one in it. Advanced Bestiary has the Monstrous Lycanthrope template. But even with it using Constructs or Undead is optional material suggested in a sidebar.

BWR
2014-01-27, 04:27 PM
Wolf-wer

the wolf who becomes a man under a full moon!

Like the weresheep, these exist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfwere_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29)

unseenmage
2014-01-27, 06:43 PM
A Werewolf Were-SkeletonWerewolf via the aforementioned Monstrous Lycanthrope Template from Advanced Bestiary.

Twice the Halloween theme and twice the wolfey flavor. :smalltongue: