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D4rkh0rus
2014-02-07, 02:29 PM
Is there a resource that details which spells are worth persisting using methods to deny spell level cost? (DMM, artificer metamagic wand, etc)

TheMonocleRogue
2014-02-07, 03:18 PM
The feat easy metamagic lowers a metamagic feat's adjustment by one.

Some specific feats can lower metamagic spell adjustment by an additional one.

Arcane Thesis
Divine Metamagic
Metamagic Song


Spells worth being persisted are usually 3rd level or lower. A wizard or cleric could theoretically be able to cast 5th level persisted spells using their 9th level spell slots.

I found this list (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7543) that shows some good examples of spells you can persist.

One spell in particular that I enjoy persisting is vigor, lesser mass (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/vigor-mass-lesser--668/) so my party doesn't have to dump heal spells after every encounter.

D4rkh0rus
2014-02-07, 03:35 PM
The feat easy metamagic lowers a metamagic feat's adjustment by one.

Some specific feats can lower metamagic spell adjustment by an additional one.

Arcane Thesis
Divine Metamagic
Metamagic Song


Spells worth being persisted are usually 3rd level or lower. A wizard or cleric could theoretically be able to cast 5th level persisted spells using their 9th level spell slots.

I found this list (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7543) that shows some good examples of spells you can persist.

One spell in particular that I enjoy persisting is vigor, lesser mass (http://dndtools.eu/spells/complete-divine--56/vigor-mass-lesser--668/) so my party doesn't have to dump heal spells after every encounter.


Thanks, that link is just what I was looking for.

Rebel7284
2014-02-07, 03:37 PM
Seems pretty incomplete. I did a bunch of research on this once to help a friend and then posted some results on some random guy's thread. Let me see if I can dig it up. Wait for an edit. =)

Edit complete:
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9592.msg155590#msg155590

Note this is cleric specific.

Cruiser1
2014-02-07, 06:16 PM
Is there a resource that details which spells are worth persisting using methods to deny spell level cost? (DMM, artificer metamagic wand, etc)
Try this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15110369&postcount=6) for a list of 284 spells that are worth Persisting. :smallsmile: They are from Cleric as well as other classes (since the build (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280365) in question has access to Miracle), and assume access to Reach/Ocular Spell in order to apply a number of spells of touch/variable range.