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Thurbane
2014-02-11, 04:55 AM
Hi all,

Apart from the Jack of All Trades feat, anyone have a list of ways to make all (or some) trained-only skills work without investing any ranks? I know a few prestige classes get this as an ability, sometimes specific to certain skills, but I'm struggling to remember which ones.

Just a thought exercise, not for a specific build.

Cheers - T

SiuiS
2014-02-11, 05:57 AM
All the knowledge skills, Autohypnosis and every profession in the world.

How do these make trained only skills available without training?

Zombimode
2014-02-11, 06:53 AM
Hi all,

Apart from the Jack of All Trades feat, anyone have a list of ways to make all (or some) trained-only skills work without investing any ranks? I know a few prestige classes get this as an ability, sometimes specific to certain skills, but I'm struggling to remember which ones.

Just a thought exercise, not for a specific build.

Cheers - T

As usual, binding Naberius is the answer :smallwink:

Chronos
2014-02-11, 11:30 AM
The spell Loresong, from Dragon 335, gives you a scaling competence bonus on the skill of your choice, and also lets you use it untrained.

prufock
2014-02-11, 02:04 PM
Draconic Knowledge warlock invocation (all knowledges and spellcraft)
Naeberius vestige (any, chosen at binding)
Paimon vestige (tumble)
Buer vestige (knowledge: nature)
The Triad vestige (psicraft)
Halphax vestige (profession: siege engineer and knowledge: architecture and engineering)

Bakkan
2014-02-11, 02:34 PM
Mage's Spectacles (Magic of Incarnum) get you Spellcraft, Decipher Script, and Use Magic Device

incarnate236
2014-02-11, 04:21 PM
Or just take a level dip into Factotum and never worry about it.

Thurbane
2014-02-11, 04:52 PM
Or just take a level dip into Factotum and never worry about it.
That only works if you put at least one rank in every trained-only skill?

Which is doable, of course, but I'd rather find ways that don't involve ranks.

Maginomicon
2014-02-11, 05:17 PM
The Wieldskill spell (from Magic of Faerun or Players Guide to Faerun) lets you use a skill of your choice untrained.