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GhengisConrad
2014-02-11, 12:03 PM
Combining this:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a

with this:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psb/20030725a

Dimension Slide, +4 on Hide checks, +8 on Climb checks, +10 on Jump checks, and +8 on Spot checks.

Pretty nifty!

Urpriest
2014-02-11, 02:32 PM
Combining this:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a

with this:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psb/20030725a

Dimension Slide, +4 on Hide checks, +8 on Climb checks, +10 on Jump checks, and +8 on Spot checks.

Pretty nifty!

Cool! Looks like it's 3.0 Psionics, but I don't think there are any major obstructions. It is true that 3.0 was much more liberal with 3.5 in giving Vermin access to magic/intelligence (check out the 3.0 Puppeteer), but these are probably still reasonable.

OldTrees1
2014-02-11, 04:09 PM
Nice find.

Irk
2014-02-11, 05:43 PM
This is actually a really great combo! It only costs 2 LA (which can be bought off) and a single RHD. I could see this going on a skirmisher or some other build that could use pounce, as it could work as a substitute.

GhengisConrad
2014-02-11, 05:56 PM
I knew I'd mash together something that works eventually.

Since its a free action.... if I were to use it with Pounce, as in... Pounce Pounce... would that be a straight line for me?!?!

As in, could I dim.slide in the middle of a charge?

Vaz
2014-02-11, 06:03 PM
Note that you still don't have a Level Adjustment. LA- +2 is LA- +2, not LA+2, so it's not a playable character, sadly.

And if it was, allowed, 1d2 Con damage is fairly terrible for LA+2, and on a Medium Creature where 1d4 is somewhat more useable, it's not a good use of 4RHD and 2LA.

An Ardent 2 can get Dimension Slide and Psionic Major Creation without any of the above problems; only issue is getting enough PP for it; which is where Manifester Arrows/Hidden Weapons come in.

Werephilosopher
2014-02-11, 06:09 PM
Note that you still don't have a Level Adjustment. LA- +2 is LA- +2, not LA+2, so it's not a playable character, sadly.

It's not LA- +2. The entomanothrope description distinguishes "base creature" from "base vermin," and LA is "same as the base creature +2." Adding the LA of the vermin would make this worthless for players, since almost all vermin have LA -.

OldTrees1
2014-02-11, 06:11 PM
I knew I'd mash together something that works eventually.

Since its a free action.... if I were to use it with Pounce, as in... Pounce Pounce... would that be a straight line for me?!?!

As in, could I dim.slide in the middle of a charge?

I do not know if dim sliding to the side would disrupt the straight line (I would guess that it would not disrupt). However dim sliding forward would not disrupt the straight line.

Although it is probably more useful to dim slide away after your pounce is done.

GhengisConrad
2014-02-11, 06:34 PM
delay till the end of the roudn your action, pop in, start of next round, pop out.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

OldTrees1
2014-02-11, 06:55 PM
delay till the end of the roudn your action, pop in, start of next round, pop out.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Nope. Delaying changes your imitative. So does Readying and action.

Vaz
2014-02-11, 07:00 PM
It's not LA- +2. The entomanothrope description distinguishes "base creature" from "base vermin," and LA is "same as the base creature +2." Adding the LA of the vermin would make this worthless for players, since almost all vermin have LA -.

Having a mare. Cheers for the correction! Just remembered about Old Lob from Iron Chef making use of this.

Vanitas
2014-02-11, 07:02 PM
OK, I already know what my next character will be.

Phelix-Mu
2014-02-11, 07:24 PM
3.0 had no swift actions from what I recall, which can make some of the porting of 3.0 stuff into 3.5 a bit problematic. Not sure if this is an instance of that, though.

GhengisConrad
2014-02-12, 11:29 AM
~HEY!!!~

Just friggen realized, this could be a neato way to create a fun little Battle Jump (http://www.google.com/search?q=giantitp+ghengisconrad+%22battle+jump%22+ site:www.giantitp.com&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en) build that I so desperately wanted to have before...!

lol

can't escape the circling of the drain.