Pimp my ride - how can my horse get the trample ability?

[Phaederkiel]

Just as it says on the tin:

how can I get my horse the trample ability?
I cannot get trample myself, I have to little feats.
My wild cohort light warhorse though has some feats it does need and that i may train away, and I can even give him +1 int to give him access to feats animals could not take.

Is there any feat I can consider? Or any other trick which is not too outlandish

[Uncle Pine]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean: animals can take feat without any Int booster. Only mindless creatures (those with Int -) like most constructs (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#constructType), oozes (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#oozeType), plants (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#plantType), undeads (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#undeadType) and vermins (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#verminType) don't gain skill points and feats.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it now. If you can't take Trample yourself, why don't you ask your DM if you can choose your cohort's feats? Take Power Attack and Improved Overrun and you get almost the same effect you'd get with Trample (no extra hoof attack though).
EDIT_2: This (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7414) handbook should also prove useful while designing a mounted character.
EDIT_3: If you're only interested in Trample because you simply want to move through enemies' squares, check the Horseshoes of Flame: they're awesome. Last edit. I promise. :smallsmile:

[Phaederkiel]

How could i not find this handbook? Perhaps what i search is in there.

There are some feats a creature with a int less than 3 cannot take. But I know very little about this material.


I want trample because it seems to be quite nice, without being much too strong. And I wonder why the warhorses do not get it. Trampling down infantery should be the main purpose of a warhorse.
And the ability is obviously better than the feat.

[Khatoblepas]

You could ask your DM if your horse could take Centaur Trample (http://dndtools.eu/feats/races-of-the-wild--84/centaur-trample--308/). Horses are centaurlike, in that they're horses.

[Phaederkiel]

while your suggestion is obviously great,:smallbiggrin::smalltongue::smallsmile:, centaur trample needs 15 dex, which my horse unfortunately does not have. That dex seems somewhat arbitrary.

well, i am going to ask anyway.

[TuggyNE]

There are some feats a creature with a int less than 3 cannot take. But I know very little about this material.

I don't know of any of these, off-hand. I do know PCs can't have less than 3 Int, and presumably PC/NPC classes can't be taken with less than 3 Int either, but I don't think that goes for feats.

[Venger]

see if you can awaken him and give him 2 levels of totemist. either the gorgon mask or the shedu crown give trample when bound to the totem chakra.

[unseenmage]

Not sure how useful this is but you could replace the living horse with the mechanical Construct horse from MM4. it can be upgraded to have Trample.

[Darrin]

Not sure how useful this is but you could replace the living horse with the mechanical Construct horse from MM4. it can be upgraded to have Trample.

The Clockwork Steed can be updated to have the Trample *feat*, which is nearly worthless. The Trample (Ex) ability is much better. I'm not sure how to get that on a horse... you're better off just finding a mount that already has Trample, such as a Cave Triceratops (Miniatures Handbook).

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Use Polymorph to turn it into a Cave Triceratops from the Miniatures Handbook.

[Invader]

see if you can awaken him and give him 2 levels of totemist. either the gorgon mask or the shedu crown give trample when bound to the totem chakra.

But then it wouldn't be suitable as his mount.

[unseenmage]

The Clockwork Steed can be updated to have the Trample *feat*, which is nearly worthless. The Trample (Ex) ability is much better. ...

That... I missed. Thanks for the correction.

[weckar]

But then it wouldn't be suitable as his mount.

On what account? I've ridden other party members before?

[Phaederkiel]

Probably on account of becoming an npc, which i have to diplomance instead of handling. Which perhaps is nice, since my handle animal sucks and diplomacy would be a class skill.

[Venger]

But then it wouldn't be suitable as his mount.

it's a size category larger than him, so it works just fine.


Probably on account of becoming an npc, which i have to diplomance instead of handling. Which perhaps is nice, since my handle animal sucks and diplomacy would be a class skill.

well there you go, then.

[Invader]

Its not a matter of having a high diplomacy check and convincing it to be your mount.

From the SRD
An awakened animal can’t serve as an animal companion, familiar, or special mount.

That seems pretty definitive to me.

[Phaederkiel]

ah, i missed the connection. I thought the unsuitable comes from having 3 or more int. In the last part of rules of the game: the mount, skip williams says that a mount with int 3 or higher can not really be handled anymore, diplomacy is needed. I hope i remember this right, i write it without the sources atm.

[TuggyNE]

Its not a matter of having a high diplomacy check and convincing it to be your mount.

From the SRD
An awakened animal can’t serve as an animal companion, familiar, or special mount.

That seems pretty definitive to me.

Yes and no. What that means is that an awakened animal does not get any of the benefits of the class feature/feat linkage. What it does not mean is that you can't ride it any more at all.