What is the Snarl's alignment?

[CaDzilla]

Is it any of the alignments?

[martianmister]

True Neutral.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I would go with some Chaotic alignment. Either that, or it breaks the alignment scale altogether.

[UristMcRandom]

I'd say Chaotic Evil. We already know that it is a "thing born of chaos" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0275.html), and considering that it's been described as "hateful" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html), "malevolent", and as wanting "nothing more than destruction" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html), it fits the bill well enough for me.

[Creed]

Chaotic... Chaotic. Fairly sure that it is completely alien to "morality" in the traditional sense, but, as the cosmic equivalent tangled head phone cable, is most certainly an agent of Chaos, if not "Chaos" itself, as a concept.

[Gift Jeraff]

Chaotic Evil if we take Shojo's story as the truth.

My personal speculation? True Neutral.

[Leviting]

I personally think chaotic neutral, as it attacked everything without much thought. True neutral if it lacks intelligence.

[Keltest]

Chaotic Chaotic for sure. So chaotic that it doesn't even follow the alignment grid.

[Ramien]

It's alignment is Snarl. It's on a large enough scale that it doesn't operate on the same alignment meter as the rest of the universe, considering that it likely is a pocket universe of its own, so it gets to define its own rules.

[Domino Quartz]

True Chaotic.

[oppyu]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15667889#post15667889

Unless there's a Neutral Evil snail I missed in my readthroughs, I think he meant Snarl.

[martianmister]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15667889#post15667889

Unless there's a Neutral Evil snail I missed in my readthroughs, I think he meant Snarl.

There's a NE snail in one of books.

[oppyu]

There's a NE snail in one of books.
Really? Huh. Carry on then.

[thatSeniorGuy]

Yes, he's talking about the Heavily Templated Snail, which appeared in one Dragon magazine comic and as such is in Snips, Snails and Dragon Tales (SSDT also has a couple more comics with the Snail that didn't make it in to Dragon.).

[Geordnet]

Even if it lacks intelligence, its magical nature means its alignment can be worked into its very being.

I guess it all depends on how true Soon's version of the tale was. My guess is it's a choice between CN, TN, or CE.

[137beth]

I'd assume CN...

[Alex Warlorn]

It's mindless, so True Neutral.

[JHShadon]

Purple. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality)(Warning, TV Tropes link)

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I don't think that it's mindless, because it clearly has the capacity to hate. See the last two panels from here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html) and the first panel on the next page.

[Domino Quartz]

I don't think that it's mindless, because it clearly has the capacity to hate. See the last two panels from here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html) and the first panel on the next page.

In that case, I'd say "Chaotic Evil."

[dtilque]

I don't think that it's mindless, because it clearly has the capacity to hate. See the last two panels from here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html) and the first panel on the next page.

Note the line in the second last panel there: "growing more intelligent". It's definitely not mindless.

[Dumbledore lives]

It's alignment is No, as all eldritch things are.

[ti'esar]

It's alignment is No, as all eldritch things are.

That's a popular idea, but it's not really supported by published materials. Pretty much everything in the Elder Evils supplement has an alignment, as do most Far Realm monsters like the uvuudaum.

Assuming everything we've been told about the Snarl's nature so far is true (a big assumption), I think it's clearly CE.

[Sunken Valley]

None, it's not a creature.

[Mrc.]

Chaotic Powerful.

Seriously though, if what Shojo and Redcloak said was true then Chaotic Evil seems like the best fit. Personally though, Chaotic Neutral would work.

[Roland Itiative]

It's alignment is Neutral Chaotic. No, I did not get this backwards.

[Socksy]

Another vote for True Chaotic/Chaotic Neutral.

[Ridureyu]

Chaotic Snarl.

[ORione]

If it went from being an inanimate object to being as intelligent as a dog or something, that would be a growth in intelligence that would still leave it with a low enough INT to be True Neutral.
Not that I necessarily believe this to be the case, but it's a thought that I felt needed saying.

[The Pilgrim]

Chaotic Evil.

Chaotic, beyond doubt.

Evil, as it has an obvious murdering nature.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Chaotic Force-of-Nature. Like an earthquake, volcano or a tornado in its destructiveness and unpredictability (except of course, much more of both) and unlike a hurricane or tsunami, in this day and age in which its path can be more or less predicted, and you might have time to get out of the way.

Grey Wolf

[Sir_Leorik]

Is it any of the alignments?

Chaotic Evil. So Chaotic Evil, that Orcus looks at it and says "Damn, you need to calm down!"

[ThatNickGuy]

https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/435625120241967104

Directly from The Giant himself. Someone asked him this very question. His response?

"Pulling slightly on the left front wheel. They should rotate its tires soon."

There you go, folks. Proof that The Snarl is a car.

[ReaderAt2046]

Omnicidal Messy

[Keltest]

https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/435625120241967104

Directly from The Giant himself. Someone asked him this very question. His response?

"Pulling slightly on the left front wheel. They should rotate its tires soon."

There you go, folks. Proof that The Snarl is a car.

No wonder its so destructive.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/435625120241967104

Directly from The Giant himself. Someone asked him this very question. His response?

"Pulling slightly on the left front wheel. They should rotate its tires soon."

There you go, folks. Proof that The Snarl is a car.
Okay, I have to admit, I don't get what this one means. Is there a use for alignment referring to cars that I'm unaware of?

[Keltest]

Okay, I have to admit, I don't get what this one means. Is there a use for alignment referring to cars that I'm unaware of?

Tires. Im unsure of the specifics, but if they aren't aligned properly it can affect your driving.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Tires. Im unsure of the specifics, but if they aren't aligned properly it can affect your driving.
Oh, I think I get it now. Thanks!

[Conte_Vincero]

At last, something I am an "Expert" on

He is refering to the steering alignment. As you drive a car, the various bumps and knocks can knock the wheels so that when your steering wheel is centered, your tyres are not

[Jaxzan Proditor]

At last, something I am an "Expert" on

He is refering to the steering alignment. As you drive a car, the various bumps and knocks can knock the wheels so that when your steering wheel is centered, your tyres are not
Okay. Thanks for the help!

[Tiiba]

I got to wondering, rotating is literally the only thing tires ever do. Why rotate them even more?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

I got to wondering, rotating is literally the only thing tires ever do. Why rotate them even more?

Because they are not perfect spheres, and thus rotating them in the horizontal plane is good for them, but has to be done manually.

GW

[Binks]

I got to wondering, rotating is literally the only thing tires ever do. Why rotate them even more?
Ah the ambiguities of language.

Tires rotate about their central axis during normal driving.
Every once in a while you should take your car in to have the positioning of its tires changed so that the ones in front are in back and visa versa to avoid having all the wear on a particular tire be on the same (relative) location. This is called 'rotating the tires' on that car.

Horray for re-use of the same basic phrase for completely different meanings! :smalltongue:

[Sir_Dr_D]

From Shojo's story I got the impression the snarl was pure chaotic. It is nothing but pure chaotic energy. It is so chaotic that I would say the good or evil scale doesn't matter. There is no indication it had enough of a mind to make judgement decisions.

[kgato503]

I'd say Chaotic Evil. We already know that it is a "thing born of chaos" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0275.html), and considering that it's been described as "hateful" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0273.html), "malevolent", and as wanting "nothing more than destruction" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html), it fits the bill well enough for me.

I cant help but think that Redcloak would probably use those last three descriptors to describe paladins, who are by definition Lawful Good.

From the view of the gods/paladins, this might be accurate assessment of The Snarl's alignment, however, I can't help thinking that this isn't all there is to it. The Snarl was born from a bunch of gods yelling at each other and pulling on the strings that made it up. Given that point of view, it is not unreasonable to lash out at the one's hurting it (gods=god strength, so it had to hurt). In a situation like this, many animals will lash out. After that, the gods backed off, so it didn't bother them, and then they imprisoned it. It defiantly does not adhere to any imposed laws that we know of (thus it cannot be lawful), and seems to do as it pleases, which does give strong favor to the Chaotic descriptor, although if the actions we have seen are based only in instinct (remember, it was fairly young when it killed the Eastern Gods, and it could have been an entirely instinctive reaction), then there is a good argument for neutrality. As far as good and evil goes, quite frankly, I also don't think it cares, one way or the other, about good or evil, so I think that it would best be described as True Neutral (Given the latest strip, I would say a True Neutral that wants to be left alone). Failing that, my bet would be on Chaotic Neutral.

[Vinyadan]

His alignment is Ihateyou-Ieatyou.

[The Recreator]

I got to wondering, rotating is literally the only thing tires ever do. Why rotate them even more?

Tires wear down at different rates, depending on which corner of the vehicle they occupy. I'm no auto expert, but my understanding is that all the steering action of the front wheels wears them down faster.

Rotating a vehicle's tires is the act of moving each tire to a new position. Front left would become back left, back left would become back right, and so on.

Wikipedia can probably explain it better than I can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_rotation

[Carl]

Angry


Also love the tires discussion, the fun the English language can produce :p.

[King of Nowhere]

i believe the snarl is not a sentient being (int <3), and as such is true neutral.
if it is instead sentient, then it's CE

[137beth]

Up until Laurin poked her head it, it wasn't clear.
Now, I think it's clear that the Snarl's alignment is Existence (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274370).
Fortunately, that means anyone can yell "Smite Existence" to hurt it.

[Bulldog Psion]

Chaotic Lawful Evil Good Neutral Chaotic.

[The Oni]

Lawful Good.