View Full Version : BARD BUILD TO COUNTER THE "Mail Man"
quandong
2014-02-25, 09:30 AM
Is there even such a thing ?
Nerd-o-rama
2014-02-25, 09:35 AM
Spellbreaker song?
Dragonfire Inspiration cheese to match his metamagic cheese? No wait, you still have to find/hit a full spellcaster with a weapon, and even on a damage-focused sorc that's unlikely
Why a bard, particularly?
Rebel7284
2014-02-25, 09:36 AM
A bard that knows Ray Deflection spell from SpC?
Brookshw
2014-02-25, 09:51 AM
Or better yet friendly fire if they get it. Otherwise just about anything that would grant full cover.
Psyren
2014-02-25, 10:03 AM
Use Diplomancy to send an army of Inferi orphan children patsies to soak up his spells, and finish him off when he runs out.
quandong
2014-02-25, 10:09 AM
Im choosin bard because I never played one and now I realized how badass they are.
ImaDeadMan
2014-02-25, 10:11 AM
Use Diplomancy to send an army of Inferi orphan children patsies to soak up his spells, and finish him off when he runs out.
"And I sent wave after wave of my own men until the enemy hit their kill limit and shut down"
- Zap Brannigan (paraphrased)
But maybe you could cast silence on him or an object near him.
Another option would be to use a fear build as a bard and shut down the caster with no save fear spells until he actually can't take any actions.
Snowbluff
2014-02-25, 10:20 AM
A bard that knows Ray Deflection spell from SpC?
Take it a step further and use Friendly Fire. "Orbs are useless and every time your try one of your friends dies."
Being immune to to the energy damage types and finding a way around force damage would do it as well.
Urpriest
2014-02-25, 11:06 AM
Take it a step further and use Friendly Fire. "Orbs are useless and every time your try one of your friends dies."
Being immune to to the energy damage types and finding a way around force damage would do it as well.
Friendly Fire is fine for this, yeah, and no harder to get on a Bard than on most casters.
Might I ask why you're so interested in countering a specific build?
Rebel7284
2014-02-25, 11:33 AM
I specifically looked up friendly fire (http://dndtools.eu/spells/exemplars-of-evil--64/friendly-fire--4965/) before posting as it is a better spell.
It is Druid 4, Sorcerer 4, Wizard 4,
However, Ray Deflection (http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/ray-deflection--4063/) is Bard 4, Sorcerer 4, Wizard 4.
With Sublime Chord being featured in most optimized bard builds, it may be a small difference, but since we ARE talking about bards, I felt a bard spell is a better suggestion. =)
Larkas
2014-02-25, 11:40 AM
Summon Monster I -> Celestial Dog?
Oh, wait-
Axinian
2014-02-25, 11:43 AM
He's a bard, he shouldn't even be in the path of destruction to begin with. He can do plenty of damage by being elsewhere. A bard villain (I assume this is a villain) is the sort who doesn't let himself get caught in a straight up fight unless he's desperate. If he does, he has a bunch of charmed/dominated minions to soak up damage
But yeah, Ray Deflection.
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