New Godzilla Movie Trailer

[HandofShadows]

http://youtu.be/vIu85WQTPRc

We get a few hints to the plot in it.

[Tanuki Tales]

So...did anyone else see a potential Godzilla vs. Aliens motif to this?

Edit: In fact, starting at 2:01, I think what we saw could be Gigan.

[LaZodiac]

So...did anyone else see a potential Godzilla vs. Aliens motif to this?

Edit: In fact, starting at 2:01, I think what we saw could be Gigan.

Yeah, that's definitely something resembling a sickle claw. And I think I saw Rodan during the part with the jets and stuff. Though Gigan can sort of fly too, so aliens might be involved there as well.

[Tiki Snakes]

Don't mind me. I'll just be over here listening to the Godzilla theme on a loop for a while.
...Trailer looks good. :smallsmile:

[TheEmerged]

My Moneys! Take Them!

[Soras Teva Gee]

So basically Walter White had an accident in the kitchen?

[HandofShadows]

There do seem to be other monsters around. IIRC there was a report from the early preview at Comicon. It showed some giant bug like thing ripping up an airport and the Big G's foot coming down showiing he was MUCH bigger than the bug.

[Tanuki Tales]

There do seem to be other monsters around. IIRC there was a report from the early preview at Comicon. It showed some giant bug like thing ripping up an airport and the Big G's foot coming down showiing he was MUCH bigger than the bug.

So Meganulons? :smalltongue:

Maybe Rodan will be in here too. :smallwink:

[Legato Endless]

So Meganulons? :smalltongue:

Maybe Rodan will be in here too. :smallwink:

Just as long as we don't have anymore jumping on Big G's part.

[gurgleflep]

And with this posting, I now have a reason to listen to this song full blare from my room (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybfsxip8KEM) :smallcool:

[The Glyphstone]

Sheer awesome.

[Bhu]

I love that its a sequel to the original, and comes with built in anti gummint conspiracy. The possible G vs Megaguirus similarity is a lil spooky tho.

[hamlet]

Oh yeah, this looks like it coiuld be great.

[The Glyphstone]

'Those nuclear tests in the South Pacific in the 50's? Those weren't tests. They were trying to kill it.'

gave me chills.

[LaZodiac]

gave me chills.

Knowing what happens when people try to nuke Godzilla due to watching VS King Ghidorah makes me all the more giddy. No wonder Godzilla looks like he hulked out for this movie :smallamused:

[ShadowFireLance]

Knowing what happens when people try to nuke Godzilla due to watching VS King Ghidorah makes me all the more giddy. No wonder Godzilla looks like he hulked out for this movie :smallamused:

This one looks amazing. He's supposed to be what, almost double the size of the heisei era? If so, then damn, this is one big monster.

But I agree with Glyphstone, that reference to the original Godzilla movies, and the 'Not testing..we were trying to kill it.' Just screams awesomeness to me.

[Tanuki Tales]

I love that its a sequel to the original, and comes with built in anti gummint conspiracy. The possible G vs Megaguirus similarity is a lil spooky tho.

Where are you getting its a sequel? As far as I can tell, this is a complete reboot being told in a similar way to the original.

[Callos_DeTerran]

I think Bhu's referencing the fact this is a spiritual sequel to the original in tone and style, rather then it being a direct sequel. They're trying to make Godzilla scary again as well as awesome and, from the reactions in this thread, they're seriously getting there! :smallbiggrin:

Can't wait for the movie, but I refuse to watch the trailer since seeing the other one. I want to go in as blind as possible! Also, I really really hope that glimpses of maybe-Gigan and maybe-Rodan are just that...glimpses. I firmly maintain my opinion that they should use this movie to build up just Godzilla, not a significant member of his rogue's gallery like Rodan or Gigan.

[Bhu]

I think Bhu's referencing the fact this is a spiritual sequel to the original in tone and style, rather then it being a direct sequel. They're trying to make Godzilla scary again as well as awesome and, from the reactions in this thread, they're seriously getting there! :smallbiggrin:


A lil of both actually.


Can't wait for the movie, but I refuse to watch the trailer since seeing the other one. I want to go in as blind as possible! Also, I really really hope that glimpses of maybe-Gigan and maybe-Rodan are just that...glimpses. I firmly maintain my opinion that they should use this movie to build up just Godzilla, not a significant member of his rogue's gallery like Rodan or Gigan.

Toho didn't allow them the rights to any critter but the Big G. He fights the MUTOS in this one, and if it does well, perhaps they may allow other sequels. A lot of it depends on how this goes.

[Morph Bark]

MAN, I am HYPED about this movie! Watched Pacific Rim a few weeks ago just to get prepped for this.

[The Glyphstone]

What's a MUTOS?

[ShadowFireLance]

What's a MUTOS?

MUTO stands for Massive Unidentified Target Organism.

[The Glyphstone]

MUTO stands for Massive Unidentified Target Organism.


So a generic non-canon monster then. Sad.

[Toastkart]

So a generic non-canon monster then. Sad.

I'm not so sure I agree. I'd rather have some new monsters with (hopefully) interesting designs than see familiar monsters with bad designs as was the case with Final Wars. That's not to say I don't want to see some of the best of the cast brought into the new franchise, but I'm content to wait and see if this one is good first. So long as the new monsters (and Godzilla himself for that matter) have personality and depth, I'll be happy.

[The Glyphstone]

I'm not so sure I agree. I'd rather have some new monsters with (hopefully) interesting designs than see familiar monsters with bad designs as was the case with Final Wars. That's not to say I don't want to see some of the best of the cast brought into the new franchise, but I'm content to wait and see if this one is good first. So long as the new monsters (and Godzilla himself for that matter) have personality and depth, I'll be happy.


Yeah, but it's not promising in that direction. The Big Bad doesn't even have a name, just an acronym for 'giant monster'. Hopefully Big G will be fleshed out, but it sounds like the MUTO is just invented to be a giant mook for Godzilla to beat up.

[Tiki Snakes]

Yeah, but it's not promising in that direction. The Big Bad doesn't even have a name, just an acronym for 'giant monster'. Hopefully Big G will be fleshed out, but it sounds like the MUTO is just invented to be a giant mook for Godzilla to beat up.


There's nothing inherantly wrong with that. If the critters do well, then they could easily ascend to "proper Kaiju" status. I mean, it's not like there haven't been cool additions in the more recentish years. I mean, Biollante is probably one of my favourites simply for the imagery and stuff.

[SMEE]

And with this posting, I now have a reason to listen to this song full blare from my room (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybfsxip8KEM) :smallcool:

You sir has quite the exquisite taste in music.

Regarding the film, I am quite excited about it. It seems they will get Gojira right this time.
But they better fit the BÖC song at some place of the film or I will be enraged.
And hunt the producers down when my Godzilla suit is completed. :smallmad:

[Legato Endless]

There's nothing inherantly wrong with that. If the critters do well, then they could easily ascend to "proper Kaiju" status. I mean, it's not like there haven't been cool additions in the more recentish years. I mean, Biollante is probably one of my favourites simply for the imagery and stuff.

Agreed. The Heisei era had some good additions, like Biollante and Destroyah. I can't remember much in the millennium series beside proto Ghidorah and Orga, but new monsters have been introduced continuually and generally work fine. Give them some personality and the illusion they aren't here just to get their asses kicked by Big G and I'll be happy.


Muto has got to be the vaguest acronym ever.

[lunar2]

"they awakened something"? so what, godzilla is a great old one now?

[LaZodiac]

I feel like the alien things that Godzilla is gonna fight are what they awakened. A few of these lines really feel like "oh we're making this line FEEL like it's towards one thing but it's actually towards another thing"

[Soras Teva Gee]

I feel like the alien things that Godzilla is gonna fight are what they awakened. A few of these lines really feel like "oh we're making this line FEEL like it's towards one thing but it's actually towards another thing"

Well yeah... we have Godzilla being nuked in the Pacific in the 50s... but evidently something making its way across America yet a big destroyed San Franscisco(?) then yeah.

[Tiki Snakes]

"they awakened something"? so what, godzilla is a great old one now?


I feel like the alien things that Godzilla is gonna fight are what they awakened. A few of these lines really feel like "oh we're making this line FEEL like it's towards one thing but it's actually towards another thing"

Godzilla may or may not be a Dinosaur. So, uh, the idea of there being something around to be awakened isn't necessarily a clue they aren't talking about him? :smallsmile:

[The Glyphstone]

"they awakened something"? so what, godzilla is a great old one now?

Ia! Ia! Gojira Fhtagn!

[Bhu]

Yeah, but it's not promising in that direction. The Big Bad doesn't even have a name, just an acronym for 'giant monster'. Hopefully Big G will be fleshed out, but it sounds like the MUTO is just invented to be a giant mook for Godzilla to beat up.


It's possible it has a name, they just want it kept secret, MUTOS may just be for the viral marketing.


"they awakened something"? so what, godzilla is a great old one now?

Edwards first Kaiju film was slightly cosmic horror-ish.

[Avilan the Grey]

Never been interested in the Godzilla francise, nor Kaiju in general (I LOVE Pacific Rim, but I came, and stayed, for the Humongous Mecha. Especially Cherno), so I am not... excited. I will probably watch this, but nothing makesm me go "OOh!" or even "Meh". Godzilla still looks dumb, but CGI dumb, and I am just hoping he will be treated as a villain in the movie, it's the only way the narrative would work for me.

Also, are they really going with "We awoke something with Atomic Bombs again? Even Pacific Rim's backstory is more plausable than that.

[Mystic Muse]

Also, are they really going with "We awoke something with Atomic Bombs again? Even Pacific Rim's backstory is more plausable than that.

From what I can tell, atomic bombs didn't wake Godzilla up. They're saying they tried to use them to KILL Godzilla, and it didn't work.

[gurgleflep]

From what I can tell, atomic bombs didn't wake Godzilla up. They're saying they tried to use them to KILL Godzilla, and it didn't work.

That and all the nuclear radiation just boosted his already tremendous size. It looks like he's either doubled or tripled in size :smalleek:

[Hopeless]

Godzilla ate Cthulhu back in the Jurassic era, its just been having trouble digesting him...

And now they've nudged it into waking up its looking for someplace to c**p on!:smallwink:

[Killer Angel]

I've got a very good sensation about it.
It seems it catches the true 'zilla's vibe, finally. :smallsmile:

[hamlet]

I'm not sure what can be discerned about it, but I'm not sure I get the impression of a multi-monster movie.

Actually, truth be told, I get a strong vibe akin to Godzilla 1983/4, otherwise known as Godzilla Returns. A movie that took itself a little too seriously in the end, but really was a fun flick that I loved as a kid.

[Toastkart]

Yeah, but it's not promising in that direction. The Big Bad doesn't even have a name, just an acronym for 'giant monster'. Hopefully Big G will be fleshed out, but it sounds like the MUTO is just invented to be a giant mook for Godzilla to beat up.


That's certainly a valid concern, but I'm still hopeful. Orga turned out quite interesting even though he wasn't named in the movie. Megaguirus was also a very interesting design.


There's nothing inherantly wrong with that. If the critters do well, then they could easily ascend to "proper Kaiju" status. I mean, it's not like there haven't been cool additions in the more recentish years. I mean, Biollante is probably one of my favourites simply for the imagery and stuff.

Agreed.


That and all the nuclear radiation just boosted his already tremendous size. It looks like he's either doubled or tripled in size :smalleek:

From what I've been able to gather, Godzilla will be around 350 feet tall this time, which is only about ~30 feet taller than he was in the Heisei era. That being said, he does look more massive, and he does have a stance that leans further forward rather than being completely upright.


In other news, This site (http://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/1594) has some nice stills from the trailer.

[Tanuki Tales]

From what I've been able to gather, Godzilla will be around 350 feet tall this time, which is only about ~30 feet taller than he was in the Heisei era. That being said, he does look more massive, and he does have a stance that leans further forward rather than being completely upright.




The new Godzilla is estimated to be anywhere from ~394 to ~492 feet tall. That's significantly larger than Heisei era Godzilla, who was ~328 feet tall.

[Toastkart]

The new Godzilla is estimated to be anywhere from ~394 to ~492 feet tall. That's significantly larger than Heisei era Godzilla, who was ~328 feet tall.

What's the source on that? this (http://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/1462) is where I got the 350ft number from, and I've seen a couple places quote it.

[Tanuki Tales]

What's the source on that? this (http://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/1462) is where I got the 350ft number from, and I've seen a couple places quote it.

I wasn't aware that an article with a semi-official height had been published. The numbers I have are mostly fan calcs from the footage that's been released so far.

Pity that he's still so small.

[ShadowFireLance]

I wouldn't actually say he's that small. He's at least 400, if not taller, based on actual estimates. But if the guy says he is, he is...

Here's my assumed estimate:
http://www.godzilla-movies.com/media/godzilla_sizes.jpg

[Callos_DeTerran]

Never been interested in the Godzilla francise, nor Kaiju in general (I LOVE Pacific Rim, but I came, and stayed, for the Humongous Mecha. Especially Cherno), so I am not... excited. I will probably watch this, but nothing makesm me go "OOh!" or even "Meh". Godzilla still looks dumb, but CGI dumb, and I am just hoping he will be treated as a villain in the movie, it's the only way the narrative would work for me.

Also, are they really going with "We awoke something with Atomic Bombs again? Even Pacific Rim's backstory is more plausable than that.

...I'm not entirely sure this is going to be the movie for you or that you'll enjoy yourself watching it. If everything you've seen doesn't even make you go 'Meh' then why pay money to go see it? Cause I'll almost guarantee there aren't going to be any giant mecha in this Godzilla movie.



That said, I think they're using the term MUTO for any large creature...possibly including Godzilla himself!

[Legato Endless]

It's possible it has a name, they just want it kept secret, MUTOS may just be for the viral marketing.

From the news feed I saw, MUTOS is the name of one of the two new kaiju. One will be a group of insectoid-arachnoid creatures. The other, thus far unnamed, will be more centipede like. Though it could be a group designation.

The new design is so supposed to be much longer, and as previously mentioned, more hunched. But yeah, after seeing the poster…and it being well, Godzilla, I assumed it wasn't exaggerated and we were getting a massive size increase. Not a big deal, but certainly disappointing I'll admit.

Apparently a few months ago there was some leaked artwork of his face.

Big G's face art (http://www.godzillaisland.com/2013/09/the-2014-godzilla-has-been-leaked.html)

@ShadowFireLance-Wow, pretty.

[Avilan the Grey]

...I'm not entirely sure this is going to be the movie for you or that you'll enjoy yourself watching it. If everything you've seen doesn't even make you go 'Meh' then why pay money to go see it? Cause I'll almost guarantee there aren't going to be any giant mecha in this Godzilla movie.

Because with a very high posibility it will be the most interesting movie in theatres the week of it's premiere. Because Hollywood sucks. Swedish films suck even more.

Besides, a movie ticket costs about as much as two pizzas.

[The New Bruceski]

All I know is that given destruction in both NY and San Francisco from the trailer... either there's a big groove of that lizard booking it across America or he swam through the Panama canal or something.

[gurgleflep]

All I know is that given destruction in both NY and San Francisco from the trailer... either there's a big groove of that lizard booking it across America or he swam through the Panama canal or something.

Maybe Godzilla and the monster he'll be facing meet up in the middle? Godzilla goes on a path from LA to NY while the monster goes from LA to NY... maybe they'll meet in Saint Louis :smalltongue:

[Kitten Champion]

I'm mostly familiar with the campier versions of Godzilla, having seen the original so long ago I only vaguely remembered it. After watching SF Debris' review of the movie I went back to it, and was really impressed. As speculative fiction, rather than another kaiju movie, it's both poignant and interesting. It didn't do what most every film in the genre would do, fetishize destruction and militarism for its own sake.

If that's the kind of film they're going to go for, it's going to be an uphill battle. Hiroshima and Nagasaki aren't in our popular consciousness, and the more contemporary disaster imagery evoked by Hollywood -- 9/11 -- has become overused in blockbusters, from Star Trek Into Darkness to Man of Steel.

Basically, while the remake will obviously have modern production values and acting and that in itself will add value to the production, it needs to develop the themes for a global audience in the year 2014... or just be disaster porn which I'm largely disinterested in.

[Talakeal]

Depending on how far they go with the posture change, Godzilla could be significantly larger than the older movies but still not gain too much in overall height.

Judging from the trailer though, this Godzilla is BIG.

[JustSomeGuy]

Music: needs either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qAIaqK3_Q&list=PLAC20E3C559DD05A1

or at a push (slightly more aggresive/action orientated)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeU42u2s2Y

[HandofShadows]

All I know is that given destruction in both NY and San Francisco from the trailer... either there's a big groove of that lizard booking it across America or he swam through the Panama canal or something.

New York? :smallconfused: The shot of the damaged Statue of Libery is the fake one in Las Vaga, not the real one in NYC. sm

[Bhu]

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/02/gareth_edwards_explains_what_you_saw_in_the_godzil .php#more

[Soras Teva Gee]

I'm mostly familiar with the campier versions of Godzilla, having seen the original so long ago I only vaguely remembered it. After watching SF Debris' review of the movie I went back to it, and was really impressed. As speculative fiction, rather than another kaiju movie, it's both poignant and interesting. It didn't do what most every film in the genre would do, fetishize destruction and militarism for its own sake.

That's because the original Gojira is the proverbial "good movie" as opposed to being entertainment.


Basically, while the remake will obviously have modern production values and acting and that in itself will add value to the production, it needs to develop the themes for a global audience in the year 2014... or just be disaster porn which I'm largely disinterested in.

Given the lines about 'nature' and 'control' and some of the modern vision of Godzilla being a literal force of nature... I'm rather expecting some variety of big Green Aesop.


Depending on how far they go with the posture change, Godzilla could be significantly larger than the older movies but still not gain too much in overall height.

Judging from the trailer though, this Godzilla is BIG.

I have to wonder is some of that perspective? We are probably all used to seeing Godzilla from fairly a zoomed out view that hides just how big he is. Because of course we're watching a guy in a rubber suit trash a stage.

And now... we're not.

[SMEE]

I have to wonder is some of that perspective? We are probably all used to seeing Godzilla from fairly a zoomed out view that hides just how big he is. Because of course we're watching a guy in a rubber suit trash a stage.

And now... we're not.

And that is the bit that saddens me a bit about this film. CGI Gojira instead of suit Gojira. :smallfrown:

But the film seems to be going to the right direction, so I will overlook that.

[Soras Teva Gee]

And that is the bit that saddens me a bit about this film. CGI Gojira instead of suit Gojira. :smallfrown:

But the film seems to be going to the right direction, so I will overlook that.

I think ultimately it just makes too much sense. Especially if you want even a prayer of being taken seriously by a general audience in America, which the trailer tone is indicating it wants. And I'm kinda doubtful on suits being able to hold up well in an HD/IMAX effects driven era. At least for this sort of thing.

Then again I've never had CGI hang-ups.

[MLai]

Watching suit Godzilla is akin to watching Barney vs Power Rangers.
I had absolutely no problem with that idea as a kid. But I wouldn't pay for a ticket now for that, as an adult.

[Legato Endless]

Agreed with Soras. With CGI we might get some articulation a man couldn't do, and the sense of scale the effects might give us could create some legitimate wow factor. Granted, part of this is bitterness on my part for some of the awful green screen that snuck into some of Toho's more recent efforts. The model work had some old-timey charm. Pure CGI, whatever its shortcomings, is still miles better than green screen insertions.

[Admiral Squish]

I think I've pretty much got to see this movie. I was pretty much sold as soon as there was the 'they were trying to kill it' line. I think, at worst, it'll be a kinda good movie, and at best it'll be awesome.

[Bhu]

spoilers

http://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/1608

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/74303/godzilla-madness-new-stills-new-size-chart-trailer-directors-commentary

[Tanuki Tales]

He's slightly taller, but seriously more bulked up. I can live with that.

[Talakeal]

Watching suit Godzilla is akin to watching Barney vs Power Rangers.
I had absolutely no problem with that idea as a kid. But I wouldn't pay for a ticket now for that, as an adult.

Its funny how different generations of people have different standards for special effects. Take "The Thing" for example. I love the 1982 version, my dad likes the original on from the fifties, and my little brother prefers the 2011 cgi fest. All three of us can't stand the other two versions because the special effects look fake to us.

[Dienekes]

Its funny how different generations of people have different standards for special effects. Take "The Thing" for example. I love the 1982 version, my dad likes the original on from the fifties, and my little brother prefers the 2011 cgi fest. All three of us can't stand the other two versions because the special effects look fake to us.

Wait, there are people who don't think that John Carpenter's The Thing looks more real and present than the slipshod cgi nonsense the 2011 movie presented?

Personally, a mix of cgi and animatronics to create the perfect images is always the best. But the 2011 movie was just bad.

[Bhu]

The 2011 film was rushed, and the results fuddled with by committee. The director wanted to do all practical effects and a different story but got over ruled. It's a sad example of a film that could've been great had the studio let it be.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Its funny how different generations of people have different standards for special effects. Take "The Thing" for example. I love the 1982 version, my dad likes the original on from the fifties, and my little brother prefers the 2011 cgi fest. All three of us can't stand the other two versions because the special effects look fake to us.

I think that might come down might boil down to looking for different things.

When I take a conscious step back most special effects generally "look fake" in that I can pick up the unreality if I really want to. But they're not the same type of fake.

[Legato Endless]

The 2011 film was rushed, and the results fuddled with by committee. The director wanted to do all practical effects and a different story but got over ruled. It's a sad example of a film that could've been great had the studio let it be.

What would it have been? I dismissed the film as a fairly generic action-mystery with a Holmesian Heroine whose tone was antithetical to the persistent ambiguity that defined Carpenter's work.

[T-Mick]

You guys putting down rubber suits amaze me. C'mon, y'all, if it weren't for rubber suit monsters, we'd never have this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMxrXMjPMcc)!

[Soras Teva Gee]

You guys putting down rubber suits amaze me. C'mon, y'all, if it weren't for rubber suit monsters, we'd never have this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMxrXMjPMcc)!

There is a difference between something that is completely acceptable, even laudable and completely awesome... and still being a good idea going forward.

[Avilan the Grey]

For me, the special effects has to be good for the era.
That's it, really.

[Bhu]

What would it have been? I dismissed the film as a fairly generic action-mystery with a Holmesian Heroine whose tone was antithetical to the persistent ambiguity that defined Carpenter's work.

Originally it was intended to be a remake of the 80's film with purely practical effects. Then the producers intervened and said a prequel would be better. You can sill see obvious instances where it was a remake in the script. Then they decided to make the female PC more like Ripley from Aliens. Then they superimposed cgi over the practical effects later, which is why some of it looks half-assed: they didn't have time to do it right. Then it went through audience testing and more script changes were made. Originally it was going to be a cosmic horror film. The studio decided the new one needed to be more 'actiony' to attract a modern audience. Despite modern audiences being far more knowledgeable about Lovecraft and cosmic horror than studio execs.

[Popertop]

Very excited about this movie.

Some of my favorite actors (always been a fan of Bryan Cranston, and a new fan of Elizabeth Olsen) and big G getting some much needed silver screen love.

I think I'll even see it opening night.

[Bhu]

The toy tie-in's are being released, and there are vague pics of the MUTO.

[Bhu]

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/74585/gareth-edwards-answers-some-monster-sized-godzilla-questions

minor spoilers

[Bhu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcyyGqP4p_4

new trailer, new scenes

[TheEmerged]

RE: New Trailer: I feel like I'm repeating myself here but...

MY MONEYS! PLEASE TAKES THEM!!!!11!!!!

Rodan! 1:19! I am ecstatic fanboi!

[Toastkart]

RE: New Trailer: I feel like I'm repeating myself here but...

MY MONEYS! PLEASE TAKES THEM!!!!11!!!!

Rodan! 1:19! I am ecstatic fanboi!

It's not Rodan. This production doesn't have rights to any monsters beyond Godzilla himself. It's one of the new monsters made for this movie.

[Legato Endless]

On that note, I'm not sure if this is fandom heresy, but if they get the rights for Mothra and bring her in, I really don't want the tiny twin priestesses to appear. Or if that's too big a change, at least make them normal sized and ditch the previous characterization, even as an eight year old I found them super annoying.

[SMEE]

That has to be Rodan!
IT MUST BE RODAN! IT IS RODAN!!! :smallfurious:

I am way too excited about this. Oh, way too excited. :smallbiggrin:
And they could have acquired the rights for another monster for this feature. :smallwink:

So I will stick with Rodan and will keep doing so even after they try to lie to me that it isn't Rodan. :smalltongue:

[Dienekes]

On that note, I'm not sure if this is fandom heresy, but if they get the rights for Mothra and bring her in, I really don't want the tiny twin priestesses to appear. Or if that's too big a change, at least make them normal sized and ditch the previous characterization, even as an eight year old I found them super annoying.

They were the reason I hated Mothra as a kid.

But Rodan? Rodan was awesome. I'd definitely like to see Rodan if this movie is good and they decide to make more (who am I kidding, if it's profitable and bad they will make more and I will watch it).

[Bhu]

It's not Rodan. This production doesn't have rights to any monsters beyond Godzilla himself. It's one of the new monsters made for this movie.

Has no one seen the new monster in the pics of the toy releases but me?

[TheEmerged]

RE: Toy Releases - no, haven't seen them.

I should probably explain...

The original Rodan movie has a special place in my childhood because I saw it in a theatre with my father, who cried at the ending. So yeah, Rodan fanboi here.

[Legato Endless]

That's awesome.

So the film will have a pretty grandiose scope. The timeline stretches from '54 to '98 to '14. Locations will include Japan, Philippines, Hawaii, San Fran, and the Midwest.

[Bhu]

RE: Toy Releases - no, haven't seen them.

I should probably explain...

The original Rodan movie has a special place in my childhood because I saw it in a theatre with my father, who cried at the ending. So yeah, Rodan fanboi here.

Did you see the newer Rodan film?

[Avilan the Grey]

So... after the new trailer(s)... I am actually excited. It helps that my wife is going bonkers though, she had most of the old movies on VHS back then.

[Toastkart]

Has no one seen the new monster in the pics of the toy releases but me?

I had not seen any of the new toys beyond one of Godzilla himself, where he looked pretty chubby. Now that I have, I think it's a pretty interesting design. I also realize that the scythe claw coming down seen in the trailers probably belongs to the flying muto, rather than the centipede-like one as I had originally assumed. cool stuff.




Did you see the newer Rodan film?
which newer Rodan film are you referring to?

[Bhu]

Godzilla had three separate series of films (Showa, Heisei, Millennium) and Rodan has appeared in at least one film in each series.

[hamishspence]

I wouldn't actually say he's that small. He's at least 400, if not taller, based on actual estimates. But if the guy says he is, he is...

Here's my assumed estimate:
http://www.godzilla-movies.com/media/godzilla_sizes.jpg

There's also a size chart for the various versions of him in Empire Magazine, which IGN shows:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/28/new-godzilla-images-include-size-comparison-chart

[Bhu]

The new international trailer has a brief shot of MUTO from the side.

[HandofShadows]

New longer trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IC3Mi9vOb_8

[Talakeal]

New longer trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IC3Mi9vOb_8

LOL, judging by the trailer they are going to have a classic "Millions of people are dead, but its OK because Will Smith's dog lived," scene.

[Legato Endless]

Classic Hollywood Specism, we meet again.

Yes I'm rooting for the giant lizard over the human race. What, don't look at me like that!

[Bhu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWtroNHpws

The asian trailer is out, and has the first good looks at both monsters!!

[hamlet]

Uhm . . . did anybody catch the line about gods?:smalleek:

Interesting take on things. I'm really REALLY looking forward to it now.

[HandofShadows]

Uhm . . . did anybody catch the line about gods?:smalleek:

Interesting take on things. I'm really REALLY looking forward to it now.

Yeah, it's in there. :smalleek:

Now who is the bad monster and who is the good one? Or are both bad? :smalleek:

[The Glyphstone]

I thought the non-Godzilla monster was a giant bug-creature. That gliding thing looks more like a bat.

[Legato Endless]

There's two non Godzilla monsters. They are supposed to be insectoid…but yeah, the winged one looks rather bat like.

[Toastkart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWtroNHpws

The asian trailer is out, and has the first good looks at both monsters!!

Finally some nice shots of the monsters themselves. Thanks.

[Nourjan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWtroNHpws

The asian trailer is out, and has the first good looks at both monsters!!

This trailer was surprisingly underwhelming for me.
I really hoped that they would stay clear of the cheesier "VS" Godzilla series.One internet movie reviewer already said that he's glad that Godzilla "was there to help"(WHAT??) ,I pray that this didn't meant they turning Godzilla into some sort of heroic "good guy".

[Legato Endless]

This trailer was surprisingly underwhelming for me.
I really hoped that they would stay clear of the cheesier "VS" Godzilla series.One internet movie reviewer already said that he's glad that Godzilla "was there to help"(WHAT??) ,I pray that this didn't meant they turning Godzilla into some sort of heroic "good guy".

Well, considering he's gone from an amoral symbolic force of nature to a children's hero to the villain, there's definitely a lot of wiggle room.

I think, based on what we've seen, we are getting a slightly more visceral look at the antihero angle. Godzilla will fight 2 monsters, and all three will kill large numbers of people. I don't think anyone in the film will have anything positive or even neutral to say about Big G. The fan interpretion...will probably be far more gracious to our beloved mass murderer.

[Avilan the Grey]

Godzilla won't be a good guy. That has already been confirmed.
What this is, though, is a text-book example of The Godzilla Threshold (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodzillaThreshold).

Basically, NOT letting him lose would be far FAR worse than just a few thousand dead people.

[Zrak]

Every time I see a trailer, I say "Godzilla is the one who knocks," at least under my breath, the second Brian Cranston says anything or appears.

[Bhu]

http://www.scified.com/site/godzillamovies/5-movie-clips-from-godzilla-2014-released clips have been released

[HandofShadows]

With the last clip, that is NOT a good place to be at the end. :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

[Hopeless]

With the last clip, that is NOT a good place to be at the end. :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

Ooooh.... DITTO!

So having previous experience of the big G I assume they only wake him up once the Flying MUTO hit the fan?

Definitely want to watch this!

[aiza55]

The world's most famous monster is pitted against malevolent creatures who, bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence.

[Hopeless]

The world's most famous monster is pitted against malevolent creatures who, bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence.

The US Military?
A little harsh though the description fits... unless you mean the MUTO or whatever its called...

[Legato Endless]

The US Military?
A little harsh though the description fits... unless you mean the MUTO or whatever its called...

Assuming Aiza isn't a spambot. Which, no offense, it's kind of hard to tell based on that posting.

[Killer Angel]

Well, some monsters' brawl, should be funny. If you must have the hero that saves the day, at least I want it BIG and BAD. :smallbiggrin:

[Avilan the Grey]

Godzilla isn't a hero. His fight against the ancient enemies of his still kills thousands of people. It's just that again, the **** has hit the fan to a point that the Godzilla Treshold has been reached.

[SanguisAevum]

Rhodan!

That was Rhodan!

[Toastkart]

Rhodan!

That was Rhodan!

No, it wasn't.

[MLai]

Rhodan!
That was Rhodan!
It was Mothdan.

[SanguisAevum]

No, it wasn't.

They can call it whatever they like...We know they dont have the rights to actually call it "Rhodan"

But to any fan... that flying Kaiju that Godzilla so often fights... is Rhodan. And the film makers know that.

A Flying Kaiju by any other name, etc.

[Hopeless]

They can call it whatever they like...We know they dont have the rights to actually call it "Rhodan"

But to any fan... that flying Kaiju that Godzilla so often fights... is Rhodan. And the film makers know that.

A Flying Kaiju by any other name, etc.

I thought its called Rodan?

Or is its first name Perry?

[Zorg]

Got back from seeing it a couple of hours ago. It's good. Really good.

Plot wise it owes a lot to the '54 flick, with Army Dude in place of reporter man and Ken Watanabe and his Weeaboo sidekick (based on her being English calling him sensei) replacing eyepatch scientist guy. The third Olsen was quite good, portraying the stress and panic of not knowing where her husband (Army Dude) is for 90% of the film while also dealing with probably the lowest point of the film - their son. Not that I'm objecting to having the kid there, his plot is well done, it's just that the kid himself has no presence at all.

Mixes up the origin of the big G, giving it a more "real world" origin than supernatural or mutation but also instils him with the classic "unstoppable force of nature here to bring balance to the world and curb mankind's hubris" of the classics. The film also doesn't shy away from showing the collateral damage - not just buildings exploding but dead bodies littering the ground and such are seen, and how much of that are they willing to accept to win.

Saw it in 3d, which was good but not great - one thing it was lacking was a good shot on ground level looking up at Godzilla in all his majesty. REally impressed with it :smallsmile:

[BWR]

I thought its called Rodan?

Or is its first name Perry?

And here was I thinking I wouldn't make that joke.

[Bhu]

OMG U MUST SEE DIS MOVEH!!!


Seriously sell your furniture to buy tickets if you have to.

[Legato Endless]

I'm not a big fan of 3D, but this film sort of seems like something that might actually benefit from the decades old gimmick.

Those lucky jerks who have already seen it, Yay or Nay?

[Bhu]

It was converted to 3d as opposed to being filmed in it as the dp is very anti-3d. That being sad a lot of reviewers are saying to see this in IMAX 3d if at all possible.


When i went I saw it in 2d and the theater was a third full. There was applause afterwards which gives me hope. Alas I reeeeeally had to use the restroom so i missed any potential after the credits niftiness. :smallfrown:

That being said you must see this movie. No one will remember the roland-emmerich disaster after this.

This is not a happy, campy movie. This is a dark drama with semi-lovecraftian overtones. It takes time to tell the story so if you want a Transformers type movie you'll be out of luck. There's plenty of action when they get to it, but they will do a bit of a slow burn getting to it.

[Hopeless]

And here was I thinking I wouldn't make that joke.

Nice to know I wasn't the only one to notice...:smallsmile:

[Bhu]

http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/box-office-preview-godzilla-stomps-into-theaters-tonight/

woot!

[ShadowFireLance]

You will see this in 3d if possible. This is one of the greatest movies I've seen, the acting is superb, and the pacing is just perfect. There was a line almost out the door when I left, and my theater was mostly full, so this is definitely awesome.

[tomandtish]

Even in 2d (my preference) it was awesome. Right blend of action and dialog.

There's also lots of easter eggs in there, so keep your eyes open.

[Bhu]

https://movies.yahoo.com/news/box-office-godzilla-crushes-90m-054756498.html

anyone wanna place bets on sequel?

[ShadowFireLance]

https://movies.yahoo.com/news/box-office-godzilla-crushes-90m-054756498.html

anyone wanna place bets on sequel?

My Votes:

If Pacific Rim gets the Godzilla sequel ; The Most likely foe is Mechagodzilla.
If not, Gigan or Destoryah. King Ghidorah is most likely for a 3 or maybe a plot twist for 2.

[SMEE]

I want to see Mothra in one of the sequels. :smallfrown:
She is the only monster capable of kicking Gojira's butt, even though she has no legs to do this kicking thing. Barring her, I'd like to see either Battra or real Rodan for the next film.
Mecha Gojira could work too.

King Ghidorah should be saved for a third film, since he is one of the most classical Gojira's foe.

[Beleriphon]

I want to see Mothra in one of the sequels. :smallfrown:
She is the only monster capable of kicking Gojira's butt, even though she has no legs to do this kicking thing. Barring her, I'd like to see either Battra or real Rodan for the next film.
Mecha Gojira could work too.

The main other monster is basically mothra, only not as goofy looking

[T-Mick]

Okay, so I'm not a man with high tastes in movies, but I've been a Godzilla fan since I was four. That qualifies me, right? Anyway, I really loved the movie. The opening scene, with a sort of "History of Sea-Monsters" montage, ending with photos of Big G, was very nice and reminded be of the better openings of the old movies. I actually cared about the human characters for a change. The part there the man has to seal his wife in the tunnel was gut-wrenching, as were the same's reactions in the future, as he tried to prove his pet conspiracy theory. Nice to see Dr. Serizawa, but I wish he'd been a bigger player in the plot at large. As for the monsters, there were more than enough action scenes to satisfy the Kaiju fan. The two MUTOs were pretty awesome, and I much liked the parts where they eat nukes. Godzilla was absolutely perfect! He was like a bear! The atomic breath was a bit downplayed from the laser-like beams of the 90s, which was a good thing. I actually reminded me of the Showa era breath, which was more like a nuclear gas than a plasma ray. Finally, the way Godzilla kills the first MUTO was pretty surprising to me. The scene is set up to look like a classic Godzilla "Tail-whip the flying monster as he glides in to attack fallen Godzilla." Normally, Godzilla would flick is tail out, and it would glide through the slowly and weightily, crashing into the attacker. That's what I expected, but instead, the tail whipped through the air with power and speed, and I almost jumped. There were a lot of "OOH's" in the theater. Afterwards, I watched the whole credits, out of respect, and was assailed by other fans, which made me a little uncomfortable.

BTW, there is a bit of a callback to the "Nukes are scary" theme of the first movie, in the form of the EMPs that the MUTOs generate. In the modern age, with most of our lives reliant on electronics, it was scary to see everything shut down, rendering the military and everyone else helpless.

Those are my thoughts, spoken from someone with no taste in movies, but a lifelong G fan. Humor me.

[Bhu]

The main other monster is basically mothra, only not as goofy looking

With cgi they could make mothra awesome looking. SOme of the asian moths are quite terrifying in appearance.

[Closet_Skeleton]

Godzilla isn't a hero. His fight against the ancient enemies of his still kills thousands of people. It's just that again, the **** has hit the fan to a point that the Godzilla Treshold has been reached.

The problem I have with this movie from the plot summary is that it sounds more like Gamera: Guardian of the Universe than Godzilla.

[Bhu]

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/godzilla-2014-sequel-said-be-confirmed

In other news there will be a new Gamera film as well

edit: 196.2 million foreign and domestic opening week

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/godzilla-stomps-into-theaters-with-record-estimated-86139494987.html

[Avilan the Grey]

The problem I have with this movie from the plot summary is that it sounds more like Gamera: Guardian of the Universe than Godzilla.

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Legato Endless]

How did you come to that conclusion?

Sounds more like a retread to the late Showa era I think. Heroic, but not explicitly the defender of humanity, though I haven't seen the film yet.

[The Glyphstone]

I don't know about the 'heroic' bit in the movie itself. From the audience perspective, Godzilla is the 'hero', I guess. But in-universe, it's limited to one short news channel headline of "King of the Monsters: Savior of Our City?". Most of the actual movie Big G is just regarded as either a force of nature or the lesser of two evils.

[Legato Endless]

I don't know about the 'heroic' bit in the movie itself. From the audience perspective, Godzilla is the 'hero', I guess. But in-universe, it's limited to one short news channel headline of "King of the Monsters: Savior of Our City?". Most of the actual movie Big G is just regarded as either a force of nature or the lesser of two evils.

Force of nature was very much my initial read based on the trailer, but the reddit thread seemed to take a very different conclusion. That's good to hear then.

[Hopeless]

My Votes:

If Pacific Rim gets the Godzilla sequel ; The Most likely foe is Mechagodzilla.
If not, Gigan or Destoryah. King Ghidorah is most likely for a 3 or maybe a plot twist for 2.

Heh just had this vision of a brief prequel where we discover Godzilla pretty much single handedly demolished the Kaiju from the first incursion and the alien invaders decided to set up the asteroid hitting the earth since there was no other way they could beat the big G!:smallwink:

Come to the sequel we have the new mecha kaiju appear and just as things get bad someone wakes up the big G and boy is he/she mad!

My hope is just to have a sequence where the alien invaders are seen witnessing Godzilla's appearance and saying in subtitles "NOT AGAIN!!!":smallsmile:

[Closet_Skeleton]

How did you come to that conclusion?

The 1995 Gamera remake re-imagined the giant turtle as existing only to protect humanity from multiple flying monsters that an ancient civilization created accidentally. Gamera mind links with a young girl who can understand him telepathically as a reference to Gamera traditionally befriending children.

This Godzilla film has the giant radio-active lizard showing up to kill some flying monsters that are apparently his species enemy and currently attacking humans. A single older man who's a injoke with the original film somehow understands Godzilla's motivation when no one else can.

[Callos_DeTerran]

On second viewing of the movie, I've got to say...so far it stands up to repeat viewings! :smallbiggrin:

Especially liked the little in-joke of the tank in Ford's old room at the abandoned house with two empty cocoons inside and a label on the outside of the tank that says 'Mothra'.

Also, on second viewing, I...really don't see the 'Godzilla is too friendly to humans' thing...all he really does is avoid running into an aircraft carrier while swimming which is less kindness and more...'I don't want to run into this, it's big'. Everything else is quite easily explained by the reason Godzilla is around in the first place, he causes just as much destruction as the male MUTO and possibly even more deaths in the process than both combined with that tsunami of his...

[TwistInTheMyth]

I really enjoyed this movie! Have to say I wasn't thrilled with the humans, just about anyone would have been more interesting a protagonist than our lead male. I really wanted Dr. Serizawa and Joe to team up and see them use their science to deal with the MUTOs and Godzilla, but alas we get mostly Ford. Although he gave us an excuse to see more of the monsters in action on the ground, so definite upside there. But the Godzilla and MUTO designs were excellent, and the fight scenes were all I ever wanted from a Godzilla flick.

Not entirely sure what light they're aiming to show Godzilla in. They kind of make him seem like humanity's savior but it comes across more like he just really wanted to take out the MUTOs and didn't care one way or the other about humanity.

[HandofShadows]

Not entirely sure what light they're aiming to show Godzilla in. They kind of make him seem like humanity's savior but it comes across more like he just really wanted to take out the MUTOs and didn't care one way or the other about humanity.

I think that's the point. Godzilla is a force of nature. Not humanities friend.

[sktarq]

My own quote from elsewhere on the forum _Good grief was I disappointed in this. I wasn't really that hyped for it, I'm not a Kaiju fanboy by any means so I had little skin in the game. but I was bored. My girlfriend fell asleep during the final build up. The humans were I thought badly acted, contained no narrative arc, gave me no reason to care, have zero effect on the course of the movie, and gave no insight except for the clunkiest of exposition. It was also one of the worst movies I have ever seen in respect to "because SCIENCE!" and totally missing the real world versions of what they were saying in the movie....Radiation sources nearer the Philippines than the power-plant in Japan? plenty (but they said it was the nearest) - saying the bomb was the nearest best source of radiation in the SF bay area and thus able to lure them - what about Laurence Livermore where they design and do test work on all sorts of Radioactive things (and don't say it doesn't exist in this world-they mention it).....Also the MUTO cause most of their destruction off screen. And Godzilla is a hero? kinda fine-but not in the first one when nobody has any reason to have a clue about him. Also the way the kaiju were wailing on each other you'd think they would have left a few marks, seen some blood, something-but I didn't see any until the the kill-shots. Good grief this was bad.
edit: I could have forgiven it most of this if it was fun. But it wasn't. It played at being serious without doing anything it needed to do in order to be a successful serious movie. PacRim was fun. It had some issues but I left feeling entertained and my only real gripe was not seeing more action from the Chinese and Russian Jaegers. Hell PacRim did better as a serious movie than Godzilla did without trying. *blarg* :yuk:

[marathejeje]

I hope this Godzilla 2 is better than the first one. I'm really excited to see this movie.