[PF] PC with natural bite attack - What can be done to increase damage?

[Unbalanced]

As the title says, what feats can be taken (other than Improved Natural Attack) that will help me buff up my bite attack??

[grarrrg]

Mostly just the standard buffing spells. Amulet of Mighty Fists and such.
If your Bite attack was from class features and not from race, it very well might scale up on it's own (Wolfscarred Curse Oracle, Feral Gnasher Goblin Barbarian, etc...).

Strong Jaw (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/strong-jaw) may be worth a look when you can get it, bumps damage die up TWO categories.
Likewise there's always Enlarge Person (stacks with Strong Jaw).

[sumkidy]

No books with me right now, but I believe Fiendish Codex II had a devil-touched feat which might help with that.

[Cog]

Strong Jaw (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/strong-jaw) may be worth a look when you can get it, bumps damage die up TWO categories.
Hm. I have a feeling this isn't how they intended it to work, but:

If the creature is already Gargantuan or Colossal-sized, double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead.
Not "double the base damage die", just double damage, period. How convenient is it to get up to Gargantuan size in PF without this spell, if it's possible at all?

[Ravens_cry]

Well, Giant Form II will get you Huge, will that stack with Enlarge Person?

[grarrrg]

Hm. I have a feeling this isn't how they intended it to work, but:

Not "double the base damage die", just double damage, period. How convenient is it to get up to Gargantuan size in PF without this spell, if it's possible at all?

Actually, that is EXACTLY how it is intended to work.
Look at the damage chart with Strong Jaw. After the first couple increases, all the damage is "2 sizes > doubled".
A Huge-Bite does 2d6, 2 size increases is 4d6. That's double.
Huge-Claw is 1d8, 2 size increases is 2d8. Double.
Note: if already Gargantuan, Strong Jaw's doubling works off the Gargantuan size, not the Colossal (otherwise it would be effectively 3 size increases).


As for how easy it is to get that big? Not that easy.
An Eidolon (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245496) can get that big. Level 13 lets them start Huge, Enlarge Person can be cast on them for Gargantuan. Improved Natural Attack counts them as +1 size. The Attacks are now considered Colossal sized, so Strong Jaw doubles the damage (then the Improved Damage Evolution for another boost).

For an Animal Companion:
Mammoth Rider (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/i-m/mammoth-rider) PrC will boost them to Huge, cast Animal Growth (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/animal-growth) for Gargantuan.
Then stack Improved Natural Attack (effectively Colossal) and Strong Jaw. Double Colossal damage.

Other than Animal Companions and Eidolons, I'm not sure how you'd get that large.


Well, Giant Form II will get you Huge, will that stack with Enlarge Person?

Enlarge Person says:
"Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack."
So you are out of luck there.

[Der_DWSage]

Alternatively, you get an animal companion that turns into a large creature after a certain point, get it the Improved Natural Attack Feat to make their weapon be considered one size category larger, cast Animal Growth, and THEN strong jaw.

I may have abused that spell with my Treant Companion. Walls and armor didn't last long around him.

[Ravens_cry]

I like it with T-Rex. One big attack becomes one bigger attack. It's also one of the few times the Vital Strike chain is actually worth it.

[mangosta71]

A level 7+ psychic warrior can get 2 size categories from Expansion. There are lots of large creatures with fairly low RHD/LA.

[Unbalanced]

Thanks for all the info.
I'll give some context.
I'm playing a dual-cursed oracle and the non-evolving curse will be Wolfscarred Face, which gives me a 1D4 bite that does not scale.
I seem to have a spare feat slot here and there, so I was wondering what I could do to help buff up my bite a bit as I plan on using it as my primary melee weapon (need to keep my hand free for casting and I carry a shield).