[3.X] Fimbulwinter vs Energy Substitution.

[Yael]

I know that this might not work, but can the Energy Substitution spell change the type of the storm, say to make your snowflakes to burn or burn with acid?

[Socksy]

Instead of sending the area into a deep cold, you would clearly send it into a deep fire.

I think acid rain constantly would be plausible, or a hot, dry summer, or something like that.

[Seffbasilisk]

I would say no. Fimbulwinter evokes a very specific condition. It's not a static cold damage spell, like changing a fireball to electricity, it's set to bring about a harbinger of Ragnarok.

[georgie_leech]

Strictly speaking, I think it's allowed; Energy Substitution just changes the spell descriptors. In this case though, I don't think that actually does anything; the rest of the spell specifically sets up wintery conditions. Maybe it's done by sucking away heat instead of generating cold, but RAW I think a Fimbulwinter [Fire] still gets you winter.

[Psyren]

Strictly speaking, I think it's allowed; Energy Substitution just changes the spell descriptors. In this case though, I don't think that actually does anything; the rest of the spell specifically sets up wintery conditions. Maybe it's done by sucking away heat instead of generating cold, but RAW I think a Fimbulwinter [Fire] still gets you winter.

Yeah, that. It would only be a cosmetic change, or at best change how the spell interacts with certain class features. But you would get an acid spell that creates a blizzard, a fire spell that creates a blizzard etc.

[TuggyNE]

Yeah, that. It would only be a cosmetic change, or at best change how the spell interacts with certain class features. But you would get an acid spell that creates a blizzard, a fire spell that creates a blizzard etc.

Not like this is unprecedented; the orb spells create a ball of acid that scorches, a ball of acid that freezes, a ball of acid that shocks, and so on.

[Psyren]

Not like this is unprecedented; the orb spells create a ball of acid that scorches, a ball of acid that freezes, a ball of acid that shocks, and so on.

Except for the most troublesome one (Orb of Force) but yeah, agreed.