Gunhaven
2014-03-10, 03:40 PM
So, been a long time reader; first time poster. Figured if make an account and seek y'all advice since the below uses a home brew from the site. Anyway...
I find myself in a pvp game that is PF and 3.5 with a fairly lenient GM. Because of this I decided to submit a Swarmlord as a replacement for my current character (A Were-Octopus Dragon Style Alchemist) which is in the process of being possibly approved. In the spirit of being prepared I've decided to start on the crunchy and fluffy bits while I wait. Now I would be lying if I said I fully understand the Swarmlord class in its entirety (mainly it's that dagnabbit Evolution Point dohickey) so let me know if anything below is wrong. I will be editing the cast with suggestions/comments as they come up. The characters themselves are built using Pathfinder rules, level 11, templates are subtracted for any effects based on level (cohort level, feats, skills, etc). The Swarmlord has 18, 18, 16, 16, 14, 14 for stats and 75,000 gold. Crafting is almost a necessity (I was thinking a Mi-Go Creationist Artisan because of the general theme) and is limited to 30 days. The swarm and cohorts all have heroic NPC stats (when it applies) and gold, with the added caveat that they will be Blessed later on (since 9 characters is a lot).
Characters:
Main character: Cojeizi (Aquatic Drow Swarmlord 9/Thrallherd 2)
The Swarmlord is a home brew 3.5 class found here: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253053
Thrallherd is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...e-classes/thrallherd
I'm not entirely sure what direction I want to take Cojeizi. Should I focus on Metapsionic feats? Should I get my diplomacy/intimidate to the point that I invalidate encounters? Should I load up on the Noble feats and call it a day?
Total Swarm HD - 40
Obumbu (Nightmare Blink Dog 3/"Barbarian" 1/Survivalist Stalker Scout Rogue 4/Horizon Walker 3/Sighted Seeker 2) - 13
Nightmare is a template from here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...htmare-creature-cr-1
By Barbarian I mean using Variant Chaining from 3.5 to make it a more complex class. The gist will be like the example here: http://community.wizards.com/f...tion/threads/1583921
Sighted Seeker is here: http://www.pathfindersrd.com/p...asses/sighted-seeker
(Obumbu is the scout of the Stormwinds, focusing on Dimension Dooring in on targets and dispatching them as quickly as possible)
I was going to take the Dimensional Agility chain and that's about all I know. Should I stick with the Favored Terrain applying to enemies thanks to HW3 or maybe work with Scout?
Uther (Bog Nixie 3 [+1 HD]/Pokemaster 4/Fighter 1/Ur-Priest 1/Mystic Theurge 3/Contemplative 1) - 13
Bog Nixie is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia.../fey/nixie/nixie-bog
Pokemaster (or Monster Tamer if you prefer that name) is here: http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki...ter#Pokemaster_Class
Ur-Priest and Contemplative are from 3.5's Complete Divine.
(Uther is the slaver of the Cult, capturing those that are of greater interest that Cojeizi feels are unworthy of the Gift of Dagon)
I was going to take Practiced Spellcaster for Pokemaster and Ur-Priest for CL 11 and 14, 25 for Aquatic monsters. My God was going to be Dagon with the Druid's alternative domain (which makes sense IMO).
Ander (Maenad Were-Octopus Wilder 9/Metamorph 4) - 14
Wilder is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ashed/classes/wilder
Metamorph is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ge-classes/metamorph
(Ander now will focus on the Body Bludgeon rage power to beat up people with their friends)
Are there any super necessary feats for a raging wilder or could I potentially load up on Extra Rage Power?
Cohorts:
Ha'Ur (Octopus 1/Alchemist 4/Trickster 2) - 10
Awakened and then level drained for 3 Octopus HD. I was hoping to pick up that Shadow Hand item to get the Assassins Stance. If it isn't feasible then I'll go Vivisectionist.
Deweza (Dromite Tactician (Commander Fear Projector)) - 11
Tactician is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ed/classes/tactician
(Deweza brings friends of the Cult one step closer to being Blessed without enslaving them or Blessing them. Enemies are made beacons of fear as they attack their former comrades)
Beyond the class I have little knowledge on what else to put. I do like the idea of spreading buffs around (even if it will wreck my PP).
Lam (Human Vitalist (Sadist Life Leach, Soul-thief)) - 11
Vitalist is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...hed/classes/vitalist
(Lam drains the life from enemies while granting that health to the friends of the Cult)
Again, the class combo sounds neat. Should I focus on Metapsionic feats and try to be a pseudo blaster or just focus on ensnaring people and using them as health batteries?
H'teth (Octopus 1/Monk 4/Master of Storms 6) - 11
Another 3HD for Octopus , with Feral Training Tentacles and Monastic Legacy. Maybe Snap Kick or Superior Unarmed Strike for more tentacly fun?
Swarmling:
T'Sogga (Ki Throw and Bull Rushing)
Ipecac (Alternate Form: Reincarnated Druid, Final Ending)
The Swarmlings are still theories:
T'sogga is meant to be hurled by Ander/Drop down on foes and Trip/Bull Rush everything within reach, leaving a crater and a bunch of prone foes in his wake.
Ipecac is like a living bomb that keeps coming back to bring the pain.
Again, any general help will be appreciated. I know it isn't a whole lot and quite a massive undertaking but the game needs more Tentacles in it. :smalltongue:
I find myself in a pvp game that is PF and 3.5 with a fairly lenient GM. Because of this I decided to submit a Swarmlord as a replacement for my current character (A Were-Octopus Dragon Style Alchemist) which is in the process of being possibly approved. In the spirit of being prepared I've decided to start on the crunchy and fluffy bits while I wait. Now I would be lying if I said I fully understand the Swarmlord class in its entirety (mainly it's that dagnabbit Evolution Point dohickey) so let me know if anything below is wrong. I will be editing the cast with suggestions/comments as they come up. The characters themselves are built using Pathfinder rules, level 11, templates are subtracted for any effects based on level (cohort level, feats, skills, etc). The Swarmlord has 18, 18, 16, 16, 14, 14 for stats and 75,000 gold. Crafting is almost a necessity (I was thinking a Mi-Go Creationist Artisan because of the general theme) and is limited to 30 days. The swarm and cohorts all have heroic NPC stats (when it applies) and gold, with the added caveat that they will be Blessed later on (since 9 characters is a lot).
Characters:
Main character: Cojeizi (Aquatic Drow Swarmlord 9/Thrallherd 2)
The Swarmlord is a home brew 3.5 class found here: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253053
Thrallherd is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...e-classes/thrallherd
I'm not entirely sure what direction I want to take Cojeizi. Should I focus on Metapsionic feats? Should I get my diplomacy/intimidate to the point that I invalidate encounters? Should I load up on the Noble feats and call it a day?
Total Swarm HD - 40
Obumbu (Nightmare Blink Dog 3/"Barbarian" 1/Survivalist Stalker Scout Rogue 4/Horizon Walker 3/Sighted Seeker 2) - 13
Nightmare is a template from here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...htmare-creature-cr-1
By Barbarian I mean using Variant Chaining from 3.5 to make it a more complex class. The gist will be like the example here: http://community.wizards.com/f...tion/threads/1583921
Sighted Seeker is here: http://www.pathfindersrd.com/p...asses/sighted-seeker
(Obumbu is the scout of the Stormwinds, focusing on Dimension Dooring in on targets and dispatching them as quickly as possible)
I was going to take the Dimensional Agility chain and that's about all I know. Should I stick with the Favored Terrain applying to enemies thanks to HW3 or maybe work with Scout?
Uther (Bog Nixie 3 [+1 HD]/Pokemaster 4/Fighter 1/Ur-Priest 1/Mystic Theurge 3/Contemplative 1) - 13
Bog Nixie is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia.../fey/nixie/nixie-bog
Pokemaster (or Monster Tamer if you prefer that name) is here: http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki...ter#Pokemaster_Class
Ur-Priest and Contemplative are from 3.5's Complete Divine.
(Uther is the slaver of the Cult, capturing those that are of greater interest that Cojeizi feels are unworthy of the Gift of Dagon)
I was going to take Practiced Spellcaster for Pokemaster and Ur-Priest for CL 11 and 14, 25 for Aquatic monsters. My God was going to be Dagon with the Druid's alternative domain (which makes sense IMO).
Ander (Maenad Were-Octopus Wilder 9/Metamorph 4) - 14
Wilder is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ashed/classes/wilder
Metamorph is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ge-classes/metamorph
(Ander now will focus on the Body Bludgeon rage power to beat up people with their friends)
Are there any super necessary feats for a raging wilder or could I potentially load up on Extra Rage Power?
Cohorts:
Ha'Ur (Octopus 1/Alchemist 4/Trickster 2) - 10
Awakened and then level drained for 3 Octopus HD. I was hoping to pick up that Shadow Hand item to get the Assassins Stance. If it isn't feasible then I'll go Vivisectionist.
Deweza (Dromite Tactician (Commander Fear Projector)) - 11
Tactician is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...ed/classes/tactician
(Deweza brings friends of the Cult one step closer to being Blessed without enslaving them or Blessing them. Enemies are made beacons of fear as they attack their former comrades)
Beyond the class I have little knowledge on what else to put. I do like the idea of spreading buffs around (even if it will wreck my PP).
Lam (Human Vitalist (Sadist Life Leach, Soul-thief)) - 11
Vitalist is here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psioni...hed/classes/vitalist
(Lam drains the life from enemies while granting that health to the friends of the Cult)
Again, the class combo sounds neat. Should I focus on Metapsionic feats and try to be a pseudo blaster or just focus on ensnaring people and using them as health batteries?
H'teth (Octopus 1/Monk 4/Master of Storms 6) - 11
Another 3HD for Octopus , with Feral Training Tentacles and Monastic Legacy. Maybe Snap Kick or Superior Unarmed Strike for more tentacly fun?
Swarmling:
T'Sogga (Ki Throw and Bull Rushing)
Ipecac (Alternate Form: Reincarnated Druid, Final Ending)
The Swarmlings are still theories:
T'sogga is meant to be hurled by Ander/Drop down on foes and Trip/Bull Rush everything within reach, leaving a crater and a bunch of prone foes in his wake.
Ipecac is like a living bomb that keeps coming back to bring the pain.
Again, any general help will be appreciated. I know it isn't a whole lot and quite a massive undertaking but the game needs more Tentacles in it. :smalltongue: