Need Math Help for crazy Leadership

[tricktroller]

So the preface this whole thing; I am using the AEG feat book.

Now that that is out of the way, I need some help with the math for a crazy Leadership character.

The character ends up taking leadership 6 times and has two feats that double his followers.

He takes 3 level in legendary Leader after 10th level of rogue then finishes off with rogue.

fl1 Iron Will
fl2
human
1st
3rd
6th Leadership
9th Entourage (allows you to take leadership as many extra times as you like)
10th Guildmaster (doubles followers gives an extra cohort)
12th Leadership
13th Extra Followers (Doubles followers)
15th Leadership
16th Leadership
18th Leadership
19th Leadership

Now the way I do this is for every special ability of the character I take an extra feat so rogue 13th and 16th rogue I take leadership, at 10th I take guildmaster as it is a required that I am a 10th level rogue.

So with the feats listed I have 7 Cohorts that are 2 levels under me.
I am planning to have every cohort written up exactly as I am for every single one of my 19865 Cohorts if my math holds up.

7 cohorts(18th level) with 6 each(16th Level)(42) with 5 each(14th Level)(210) with 3 each(12th level)(630) with 3 each(10th Level)(1890) with 2 each(8th Level)(3780 with 1 each(6th Level)(3780) with 1 each(4th Level)(3780)

Now each of them is setup just like me with the same feats at every level.

Now doing the math myself I have found that I should end up with a grand total of 400,194 cohorts and followers including the cohorts and followers of my 6th level followers who take leadership.

I should have 19,865 Cohorts, 329005 1st level followers, 27,555 second level followers, 13,461 3rds, 7,044 4th, 2514 5th, and 750 6th level followers.

Leadership scores for my followers base off leadership scores
18th - 25
16th - 23
14th - 20
12th - 17
10th - 15
8th - 12
6th - 10

Thank you guys so much for your help! I don't plan to bring all of these guys with me everywhere I just plan to set up the largest Thieves Guild ever in a game and operate all over the entire world! :D

[ericgrau]

7+7*6+7*6*5+7*6*5*3+7*6*5*3*3+7*6*5*3*3*2+7*6*5*3* 3*2*1+7*6*5*3*3*2*1*1=14119 cohorts. Not including cohorts of level 6 followers.

If I missed anything then insert it and copy paste into windows calculator. Other formulas should be similar.

[tricktroller]

Doh I just remembered when I did the cohorts section I did my multiplications wrong you are right! Thanks so reduce it by that much but the normal number of followers should be correct...I hope.

Thanks for the catch, see this is why I need other people.

[Renen]

Wait, leadership can be taken more than once?
Damn that entourage feat is op

[claypigeons]

I'm away from books at the moment...

A couple concerns: 1) Can Cohorts take Leadership? 2) The followers and cohorts of your cohorts aren't yours to command. Leadership isn't mindcontrol. 3) Don't you take a penalty to leadership score if you have special mount/companion/etc.? Would that not apply in this case?

[Renen]

And where is that entourage feat from

[Talothorn]

As a guy who loves playing with Leadership, I can appreciate this. However, I have to point out while this is great for Theoretical optimization, it shouldn't ever work in play because a dungeon master should not let you have thousands of clones. Cohorts and followers are (in all practicality) individual people. By RAW, followers are NPCs the DM builds, and come from a variety of backgrounds and classes. Your army of clones is beautiful in concept, but ludicrously unrealistic in a game with any verisimilitude.

That said, Improved Cohort from Heroes of Battle bumps cohort max level by one, to 1 below your level.

Circlet of Persuasion adds 3 to your leadership score.

A dip into cleric allows access to Spiritual Leader to add Wisdom to leadership score.

Might Makes Right adds strength to leadership.

[dysprosium]

Is it wrong that the first thing I thought of after reading this thread was Naruto screaming "Kage no bushin jutsu!"

[OldTrees1]

One's leadership score at 6th level should be near the maximum (25). This holds true for all your leader minions

[tricktroller]

Entourage is form the AEG Feat book. It is a book of crazy business, but it is fun for a bunch of mental exercises to try to find and implement some serious optimization.