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atemu1234
2014-03-14, 03:09 PM
Are they any good?

(Un)Inspired
2014-03-14, 03:44 PM
Nope unless you just take a single level dip

Petrocorus
2014-03-14, 03:50 PM
A 1 level dip of Battle Dancer can be good in some specific builds for the IUS and the Cha-based AC bonus. Otherwise, they are not really better than monk.

StreamOfTheSky
2014-03-14, 06:23 PM
Battle Dancer is horrible. It's actually worse than Monk when you include even any monk splat options. Not even the overpowered ones like Martial Monk, but the merely "nice" ones like Decisive Strike, holy strikes, etc...

CyberThread
2014-03-14, 07:29 PM
You should check errata, they were changed meant to be NPC version of bards.

Snowbluff
2014-03-14, 08:36 PM
A 1 level dip of Battle Dancer can be good in some specific builds for the IUS and the Cha-based AC bonus. Otherwise, they are not really better than monk.


Battle Dancer is horrible. It's actually worse than Monk when you include even any monk splat options. Not even the overpowered ones like Martial Monk, but the merely "nice" ones like Decisive Strike, holy strikes, etc...
I don't know. It takes more feats to get cha to AC otherwise. The battledancer has full BAB, too.

Nihilarian
2014-03-14, 08:37 PM
They do get pounce, but that's about it.

Zetapup
2014-03-14, 09:20 PM
I agree with this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197574) thread: they're okay for a dip, but pretty crappy if you're going just battledancer. They're prolly tier 5 or so. They've got some situationally useful abilities, but nothing too great.