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CyberThread
2014-03-18, 04:49 PM
Just want to ask, how good/bad is this prc?

https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20030328b

Urpriest
2014-03-18, 04:51 PM
It's 3.0 psionics, so effectively infinitely bad?

Wasn't there a 3.5 version of the same article anyway?

Karnith
2014-03-18, 04:55 PM
Wasn't there a 3.5 version of the same article anyway?
Yes, sort of. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040625e)

CyberThread
2014-03-18, 04:57 PM
No not really, and it does not require any 3.0 aspects of psionics to qualify, and other then the weird attack or defense mode, the PRC overall, is not affected by the transition from 3.0 to 3.5 .

It is the typical pyrokentist , with a 7/10 casting chasis, with a few things added to make your energy type more effective.

TheOOB
2014-03-18, 04:58 PM
It's a manifesting class that gives up full manifesting progression to focus on direct damage abilities, so even ignoring how good/bad psionics were in 3.5 it's terrible.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2014-03-18, 05:03 PM
As it stands though, it's not all that great for a Psion or Wilder beyond a four level dip, but it's quite good for an Ardent with Practiced Manifester if that's the type of character you're going for.

Keep in mind that it uses the 3.0 psionics rules, and I believe the 3.5 version of that would be the Pyrokineticist (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/prestigeClasses/pyrokineticist.htm) and its variants (https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040625e):

"Not long ago, the Mind's Eye brought you a variant of the pyrokineticist known as the kineticist. This variant allowed you to select an energy type that the class specialized in. The new version of the pyro has changed focus and is now a combat-heavy class, forgoing any ability to manifest powers. So rather than try to do a conversion or update of the Mind's Eye kineticist, I decided to focus on the pyrokineticist in the Expanded Psionics Handbook."

While it's technically still valid for 3.5 if you update it, it's specifically replaced by the variant Pyrokineticists.

Jeff the Green
2014-03-18, 05:05 PM
It's 3.0 psionics, so effectively infinitely bad?

Wasn't there a 3.5 version of the same article anyway?

I don't think there's anything that's incompatible with 3.5 psionics, though. Just ignore 0th-level powers, make it progress psionics normally except for 1, 4, and 9, and maybe change the PP reserve requirement to being psionically focussed.

Phelix-Mu
2014-03-18, 05:09 PM
Wow. The update to the variants is just as bad as the newer pyro. Not that it isn't full of flavor and coolness. Just would be so much cooler as psi-gish instead of "could have been manifester...but, look, PRETTY FIRE!"

Jeff the Green
2014-03-18, 05:14 PM
Wow. The update to the variants is just as bad as the newer pyro. Not that it isn't full of flavor and coolness. Just would be so much cooler as psi-gish instead of "could have been manifester...but, look, PRETTY FIRE!"

Don't you just love the way they "adapted" the special requirement:

Must have damaged or destroyed a structure or object by the use of a power of the chosen energy focus just to see what would happen.
So, how does one destroy a building with cod?

Phelix-Mu
2014-03-18, 05:21 PM
So, how does one destroy a building with cod?

Actually, there's a fair bit of demolitions in Call of Duty, from what I've seen.

Actually, having to find a way to do that now sounds like an interesting adventure hook. You must track down one of those living wall things that the drow make from mutated slaves, and slay it (which would probably be very easy).

Karnith
2014-03-18, 05:21 PM
So, how does one destroy a building with cod?
There's probably a way to summon enough fish to crush/collapse/burst open a building.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2014-03-18, 05:21 PM
Don't you just love the way they "adapted" the special requirement:

So, how does one destroy a building with cod?

Find the greatest tree in this wood, and cut it down wiiiiiiiith.... a herring!

If you meant cold damage, it's possible, but it deals 1/4 damage to objects (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/exploration.htm#energyAttacks) before hardness is deducted. So hope you find a mighty house of cards or similar to destroy with your cold attack.

Phelix-Mu
2014-03-18, 05:26 PM
There's probably a way to summon enough fish to crush/collapse/burst open a building.

Best variant of Chicken Infested EVAH!:smallbiggrin:

Shadus
2014-03-18, 05:34 PM
So, how does one destroy a building with cod?

Ignoring the typo, I want to make Werewolf Cyrokinetcist now with the catch phrase "I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down!".

CyberThread
2014-03-18, 07:02 PM
you could enalrge the cod and then hit it with a building

Story
2014-03-18, 10:20 PM
Why not just summon a bigger fish directly?

Arbane
2014-03-19, 05:11 AM
If you meant cold damage, it's possible, but it deals 1/4 damage to objects (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/exploration.htm#energyAttacks) before hardness is deducted. So hope you find a mighty house of cards or similar to destroy with your cold attack.

Saturate a building's walls with water, then quick-freeze it? The resulting ice-expansion could do some damage.

Phelix-Mu
2014-03-19, 12:10 PM
Wall of water + physics = awesome.:smallsmile: