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Xuldarinar
2014-03-19, 10:52 AM
In an up and coming campaign I am going to be playing what essentially amounts to an Elf Sorcerer//Rogue. The bloodline for sorcerer will be Draconic (Gold), because DM. The other characters, if thats relevant, will most likely be a Human Paladin//Soulknife (Psionics Unleashed) and a Half-Elf Ranger//Cleric. These characters will also have some sort of access to the same bloodline, again because DM.

At this time, Im thinking of utilizing the Poison Spell (http://dndtools.eu/feats/drow-of-the-underdark--93/poison-spell--3436/) feat and taking the Poisoner Archetype for the rogue. But I can certainly change my mind.

The bottom line is, what archetype(s) would go well for the sorcerer side? What feats would help compliment this? Any other pointers? I got a general idea but I honestly just want to see what the playground has to say.

Yanisa
2014-03-19, 10:59 AM
If you want poisons, the wildbooded (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded) serpentine (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/serpentine-bloodline) (envenomed (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded/envenomed)) archetype allows you to lick weapons to fill them with poison. :smalltongue: Serpentine also give a bite attack, with poison, which is an extra attack for sneak attacks.

Ravens_cry
2014-03-19, 11:07 AM
Maybe go Ninja? They also get poison use and have some sweet Charisma synergy. If you want to really poison things up, take minor creation at some point as one of your spells. Several poisons have obvious vegetable origins, including one of the worst, black lotus extract. Flood them with poison! The DC should be astronomical.

Xuldarinar
2014-03-19, 11:37 AM
If you want poisons, the wildbooded (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded) serpentine (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/serpentine-bloodline) (envenomed (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded/envenomed)) archetype allows you to lick weapons to fill them with poison. :smalltongue: Serpentine also give a bite attack, with poison, which is an extra attack for sneak attacks.

Not bad, though for the purposes of poison spell, would that work? Some conflict with the planned bloodline but not out of the question.


Maybe go Ninja? They also get poison use and have some sweet Charisma synergy. If you want to really poison things up, take minor creation at some point as one of your spells. Several poisons have obvious vegetable origins, including one of the worst, black lotus extract. Flood them with poison! The DC should be astronomical.

I'll have to take a look at that.

That spell does seem like a must have here.

Yanisa
2014-03-19, 12:07 PM
Not bad, though for the purposes of poison spell, would that work? Some conflict with the planned bloodline but not out of the question.

Unless you can convince your DM your fist is a weapon (which is more a monk feature) and you have a form of Poison Use of Poison Immunity i don't work the spell and bloodline have a lot of synergy. You might be able to combine bite with the spell when holding the charge, also depending your DM.

However the bloodlines powers, both the extra bite and ability to poison weapons, allow you to make full attack and still apply poison and unlike mundane poison the DC scales. Which is nice when you get off a full round + sneak attack + extra attack + double poison.

Besides I am great fan of the whole licking a weapon, just for the "wtf"-factor. :smalltongue:

Karoht
2014-03-19, 12:22 PM
If you take Ninja (a 3 level dip is perfect), not only do you get poison use, you also get a Ki pool based off your charisma, and ninja tricks.
Vanish trick is pretty awesome. Swift action invisibility is quite useful for setting up Sneak Attacks. Don't forget you can Sneak Attack anything within 30 ft, unless you get the Sniper Goggles which let you Sneak Attack at any range you can see and hit.

Ravens_cry
2014-03-19, 12:35 PM
If you take Ninja (a 3 level dip is perfect), not only do you get poison use, you also get a Ki pool based off your charisma, and ninja tricks.
Vanish trick is pretty awesome. Swift action invisibility is quite useful for setting up Sneak Attacks. Don't forget you can Sneak Attack anything within 30 ft, unless you get the Sniper Goggles which let you Sneak Attack at any range you can see and hit.
Why not go all Ninja for the Rogue side? I am assuming the OP's double // is meant to imply 'gestalt'. The Invisible Blade master trick is even better as it emulates GREATER Invisibility and, assuming you reach it, the Ninja capstone is AWESOME. "No, can't see me. Nope, not even then."

Larpus
2014-03-19, 01:14 PM
Excuse my ignorance, I'm not familiar with gestalt builds other than knowing they're two things mashed together but...

Wouldn't it also work to go Sage Sorcerer (Int instead of Cha for casting) plus Vivisectionist Alchemist (Sneak Attack instead of bombs)?