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Porthos
2014-03-31, 02:22 PM
Welcome to the OOTS By Page Count project! :smallsmile:

The purpose of this thread is rather simple: Document the progress of the current book of The Order of the Stick page by page, as well as compare it to already published books.

"Why do we need this though, Porthos?" I hear you ask. Well, strictly speaking, we don't. But as story arcs go on, people start asking "When do you think this book will end?" and "Well, X number of comics have passed, so I bet we're real close to the end soon," even though there is little correlation between the size of books and the number of comics posted.

Which brings us to the second reason for the existence of this thread: To let people know how many pages have been posted in the latest book, as opposed to the number of comics that have been posted. They may be the same for quite a while. But as time goes on, the numbers will diverge. And many people have said it was useful to know what is the current size of the latest book.

Plus it's fun to make comparisons to the current page count and the size of the latest book. :smalltongue:

This project is a continuation of a similar project that arose to document the progress (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277004) of Blood Runs in the Family, but this time in a dedicated thread that will (hopefully) last the run of the comic and not be tied to any particular book. The first post of this thread will be continuously updated with the latest page count as soon as I have the time to update it.

Please also use this thread for any speculations about the size of the current book and/or yet to be printed books, where chapter breaks might occur, or anything else that might go along that vein. Discussion helps drive interest in the thread, after all. :smallsmile: And also feel free to post the current 'Basic Block' as comics go up, if no one else has.

However, to respect the wishes of The Giant (as well as the board rules) please Do Not speculate on how much a current or future book might cost or speculate on how the size of the book might help/harm Rich's business model. Rich as said time and time again that he doesn't want people speculating on such things, and I'd like this thread to stay open. :smalltongue:

With that out of the way, here is the latest count as things currently stand.

(Abbreviation Key is provided after the last of the tables)

Basic Block

As of 1111


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

165

207

???

???


37 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1111 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

165

207

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


HtPGHS

95[/center]

1

96


Gygax

6

n/a

6


ABBREVIATION KEY


Abbv
Full Name of Book/PDF/Magazine


DCF
Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


NCftPB
No Cure for the Paladin Blues[/center]


W&XP
War and XPs


DStP
Don't Split the Party[/center]

BRitF
Blood Runs in the Family


OtOoPC
On the Origins of PCs[/center]

SoD
Start of Darkness


SS&DT
Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales[/center]


US
Uncivil Servant


H&J
Haleo & Julelan[/center]


SA
Spoiler Alert


HtPGHS
How the Paladin Got His Scar[/center]


Gygax
Gygax Magazine


NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

RMS Oceanic
2014-03-31, 02:31 PM
Book five is called "It Runs In The Family", if that helps you. IRITF?

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-03-31, 02:35 PM
Book five is called "It Runs In The Family", no if that helps you. IRITF?

I thought it was "Blood Runs in the Family". If you highlight the blank space in the table, you'll see BRitF.

RMS Oceanic
2014-03-31, 02:37 PM
I thought it was "Blood Runs in the Family". If you highlight the blank space in the table, you'll see BRitF.

Whoops, I am the dumb. :smallredface:

Porthos
2014-03-31, 02:37 PM
Book five is called "It Runs In The Family", if that helps you. IRITF?

"Blood", not "It". :smallwink: And I put it in White Space in the OP because, technically Rich hasn't 'officially' announced it outside of his calendar. But I suppose I can take out the White Text and put it in normal like if people wish.

ETA: Got semi-ninjaed while I was posting. Well, my explanation is new at least. :smalltongue:

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-03-31, 02:41 PM
I think I'll restate my guess of 49.25 bonus strips for Book 5, since this is a new thread.

Doug Lampert
2014-03-31, 05:13 PM
I think I'll restate my guess of 49.25 bonus strips for Book 5, since this is a new thread.

Sure, and I'll repost that there's good reason to expect a length divisible by 16.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imposition).

Note that this doesn't apply to some Print On Demand tech, but does apply to most traditional publishers.

137beth
2014-03-31, 06:48 PM
Glad to see the table from the other thread in it's own thread. Anyways, I'm guessing book 6 will be larger than DstP, but smaller than BRitF.

Porthos
2014-04-04, 02:38 AM
For quite a while now, I've been thinking about expanding the focus of this little count we've been doing. That is, break down the "Xtras" into various categories like the number of bonus strips, pages devoted to commentary, chapter splash pages and the like. I've long had this information stored on my home computer, but I've never gotten around to assembling it into something nicer for presentation here. Well tonight I had some down time, so I decided to finally create something that shows some more information about how the various books are structured. It doesn't contain all of the breakdowns, as it would just get too cluttered. But it shows the most important ones, IMO.

At the same time, I found out that posters have discovered how to expand the functionality of coloring within our new tables. So I spent some more time playing around with some colors to find something that I liked. Or at least could tolerate until I find something better. :smallsmile:

Finally, because the completist bug bit me in full force tonight, I also decided to add the information about the two Kickstarter releases that are presently released. However, I decided to put that behind spoiler bars since it has only been released to a limited audience. If or when some/all of them are collected into a book (nicknamed "Book K" at the moment) I'll probably delete that stat block and throw it into the advanced, depending on just how many of them are in fact collected.

If people feel like updating this thread when a new comic is up, don't worry about updating the "Advanced Blocks" if you don't want to. The "Basic Block" is all that really needs attention in the short term. The Advanced Blocks are more of a static project that only really needs to be updated when a new book comes out, or when a Kickstarter PDF is released.

So with that, I give you what I call the "Advanced Blocks", which has already been edited into the OP. :smallsmile: I have also altered the (what is now called) Basic Bloc to fit to the same pattern of colors.

Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 947


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???

???

???

???


Book 6

1

2

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

NOTES
* Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewards, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.
Also, the acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-04-04, 05:44 AM
Interesting new bits of information. I find it interesting that Book 2 has 10 chapters while Book 3 has only 8. Also, it looks like the number of bonus strips stays roughly the same, regardless of size (except in Book 1).

Porthos
2014-04-07, 12:31 PM
As of 948


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

2

4

???

???


68 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-04-17, 01:41 PM
As of 949


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

3

5

???

???


67 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

137beth
2014-04-20, 09:05 AM
So far, book 6 has the highest value of online pages/online strips (5/3).
The runner up is WaXP, followed by DstP, BRiF, NCfPB, and finally DCF.

Porthos
2014-04-24, 04:00 PM
As of 950


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

4

6

???

???


66 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-04-24, 04:47 PM
Since I now own W&XP and DStP, I have realized how truly massive Book 5 will be. Does anyone have any rough estimates for the height of the thing?

Zmeoaice
2014-04-24, 06:59 PM
NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

How.... How is the title of a book a spoiler :smallconfused:?

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-04-24, 07:01 PM
How.... How is the title of a book a spoiler :smallconfused:?

Well, it hasn't officially been announced yet, so I guess Porthos is playing it safe in case some people don't want to find out until then.

Porthos
2014-04-24, 07:36 PM
How.... How is the title of a book a spoiler :smallconfused:?

I've been online since 1987, and in that time I've discovered that some people have might peculiar defintions of what is and isn't a spoiler. So for now...

Well, it hasn't officially been announced yet, so I guess Porthos is playing it safe in case some people don't want to find out until then.

Pretty much this. :smallsmile: I may decide sometime along the way "the hell with it" and just strip out the white text and be done with it.

Porthos
2014-05-05, 01:26 PM
As of 951


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

5

7

???

???


65 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-05-19, 03:27 PM
As of 952


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

6

8

???

???


64 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-05-26, 04:04 PM
Basic Block

As of 953


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

7

9

???

???


63 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-06-03, 08:00 PM
As of 954


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

8

10

???

???


62 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

137beth
2014-06-03, 08:08 PM
How long are you waiting before declaring BRiF to no longer be a spoiler? Until it is mentioned in one of the website's announcements? Until the book is actually available? An arbitrary time period?

Porthos
2014-06-03, 08:16 PM
How long are you waiting before declaring BRiF to no longer be a spoiler? Until it is mentioned in one of the website's announcements? Until the book is actually available? An arbitrary time period?

All things being equal, website announcement. But if I get sick and tired of spoilerizing it elsewhere or if I see it enough in other places/discussions, I may just decide to throw up my virtual hands and just go ahead and stop whitespacing it.

IOW, basically what the Wisdom of Crowds decides. :smallsmile:

137beth
2014-06-04, 12:16 PM
All things being equal, website announcement. But if I get sick and tired of spoilerizing it elsewhere or if I see it enough in other places/discussions, I may just decide to throw up my virtual hands and just go ahead and stop whitespacing it.

IOW, basically what the Wisdom of Crowds decides. :smallsmile:

....and I forgot that quoted white-space is automatically visible. Oh well, I guess I just pushed us one step closer to it being common knowledge:smalltongue:

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-06-04, 01:53 PM
....and I forgot that quoted white-space is automatically visible. Oh well, I guess I just pushed us one step closer to it being common knowledge:smalltongue:

Well, you left out a letter, so some knowledge is safe! :smalltongue:

Porthos
2014-06-12, 02:00 PM
As of 955


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

9

11

???

???


61 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-06-28, 02:43 PM
As of 956


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

10

12

???

???


60 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-07-04, 09:40 PM
As of 957


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

11

13

???

???


59 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

====

I think we might be at our first potential chapter break here. Feels as good as time as any for a break in narrative. Either a forward shift in time, or a scene shift to other characters.

ChristianSt
2014-07-05, 05:38 AM
As of 957
I think we might be at our first potential chapter break here. Feels as good as time as any for a break in narrative. Either a forward shift in time, or a scene shift to other characters.

A dangling Belkar might be a cliffhanger - but I don't see why a chapter break is appropriate here. I don't really know what events will come next, but a natural point would imo be the arrival at Tinkertown (which I think will take some time).

Have you fought of potential round breakups for Book 5? I have done so myself, and I have a hard time to break them in small chunks. I would probably do something like this:


(673 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)-698 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html)) Desert shenanigans
(699 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0699.html)-709 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html)) Team Evil
(710 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)-774 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0774.html)) Empire of Blood
(775 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0775.html)-822 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0822.html)) Arena
(823 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0823.html)-833 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html)) Team Evil
(834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html)-898 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html)) Girard's pyramid
(899 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0899.html)-936 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html)) Advanced Escaping
(937 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0937.html)-946 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html)) Epilogue


ups, seems that I hit post reply instead of preview :/

Anyway I wanted to add some thoughts to it: I think the Team Evil/Epilogue splits are pretty easy. But I have a real hard time to split the other parts. I really think they are too long (though The Battle of Azure City was pretty long, too), but I just can't find a spot I'm really satisfied with.

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-07-05, 06:22 AM
A dangling Belkar might be a cliffhanger - but I don't see why a chapter break is appropriate here. I don't really know what events will come next, but a natural point would imo be the arrival at Tinkertown (which I think will take some time).

Have you fought of potential round breakups for Book 5? I have done so myself, and I have a hard time to break them in small chunks. I would probably do something like this:


(673 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)-698 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html)) Desert shenanigans
(699 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0699.html)-709 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html)) Team Evil
(710 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)-774 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0774.html)) Empire of Blood
(775 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0775.html)-822 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0822.html)) Arena
(823 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0823.html)-833 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html)) Team Evil
(834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html)-898 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html)) Girard's pyramid
(899 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0899.html)-936 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html)) Advanced Escaping
(937 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0937.html)-946 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html)) Epilogue


ups, seems that I hit post reply instead of preview :/

Anyway I wanted to add some thoughts to it: I think the Team Evil/Epilogue splits are pretty easy. But I have a real hard time to split the other parts. I really think they are too long (though The Battle of Azure City was pretty long, too), but I just can't find a spot I'm really satisfied with.
I think that many of the divisions in rounds will probably fall along those lines, but I think there might be more rounds, as W&XPs had that many and it was a shorter book.

Reddish Mage
2014-07-05, 11:43 AM
I think that many of the divisions in rounds will probably fall along those lines, but I think there might be more rounds, as W&XPs had that many and it was a shorter book.

I think 734 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html) marks a logical chapter break.

Reddish Mage
2014-07-05, 11:51 AM
Also the chapter break at 863 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html) to 864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html) sticks out like a sore thumb (I couldn't help myself on that one).

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-07-05, 11:59 AM
Also the chapter break at 863 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html) to 864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html) sticks out like a sore thumb (I couldn't help myself on that one).
*groans* :smalltongue:

ChristianSt
2014-07-05, 12:18 PM
I think 734 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html) marks a logical chapter break.


Also the chapter break at 863 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html) to 864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html) sticks out like a sore thumb (I couldn't help myself on that one).


Yeah, on a second thought both could work fine.

Porthos
2014-07-06, 02:54 AM
A dangling Belkar might be a cliffhanger - but I don't see why a chapter break is appropriate here. I don't really know what events will come next, but a natural point would imo be the arrival at Tinkertown (which I think will take some time).

Not so much a cliffhanger, but that we as an audience don't have to see the resolution of this scene. It works just as well to come back on them sometime later, with the tension here unresolved, but hanging over everything like an ever present cloud.

As for why now? Well, the characters have been introduced, the tension between Belkar and the HPoH has been established, and we now have the ship headed toward a new, unplanned, destination. Furthermore, the verbal battles between the HPoH and Durkon have also been established, as has Roy's central dilemma.

In short, the book has passed the Introduction stage. At least that's how it feels to me.

We could see the voyage to Tinkertown, sure. Or we could just cut to their arrival. Or perhaps just before they arrive.

IF Rich is planning a cut, then, as I said, this seems like a natural cutting point to me. Again, at least possibly. The 'camera' moves on to another group of characters, and then when we return to Team OotS, it is as they are approaching Tinkertown.

....

Or not. :smalltongue: We saw the caravan trek through the desert after all. OTOH, that was livened up by first a random encounter and then a nice Dune parody. Here, with them in the skies, I'm not sure if that is really in the cards.

I'm most likely wrong here. But this is the first time I think we might have a potential scene break, and thus I commented on it. :smallwink:

Porthos
2014-07-22, 01:31 PM
Well, guess we're still on the ship after all. So much for that possible predicition. :smalltongue:

As of 958


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

12

14

???

???


58 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-07-25, 02:12 AM
As of 959


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

13

15

???

???


57 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

NOTE: The acronym for Book Five has been been White Spaced for Spoilerphobes. Highlight the white space in the slot for Book Five to see it.

Porthos
2014-08-13, 01:49 PM
As of 960


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

14

16

???

???


56 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

===

Annnnd, I officially give up on white-texting BRitF. :smalltongue:

137beth
2014-08-13, 01:51 PM
How long are you waiting before declaring BRiF to no longer be a spoiler? Until it is mentioned in one of the website's announcements? Until the book is actually available? An arbitrary time period?



Annnnd, I officially give up on white-texting BRitF. :smalltongue:

My third guess was correct!

Porthos
2014-08-13, 02:15 PM
My third guess was correct!

The finishing of the Ultimate Book Tournament, plus a couple of other disucssions on this board broke me in the last couple of weeks. :smalltongue:

Honestly though, it was already hanging by a thread for months. I think stubborness kept it up to a degree. In the end though, the F-it gene kicked it.

So it goes, as they say. :smallsmile:

2.5 cats
2014-08-14, 09:02 AM
Porthos, beneath the "stat block" you write "56 [or some other number] pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origin of PCs."

Can you please explain how that number 56 is calculated? I'm not seeing it. At the moment, Book 6 has 16 "pages, " while OtOOPCs has 122.5. This suggests 122.6 - 16 = 106.5 pages to go, yes?

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-08-14, 09:07 AM
Porthos, beneath the "stat block" you write "56 [or some other number] pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origin of PCs."

Can you please explain how that number 56 is calculated? I'm not seeing it. At the moment, Book 6 has 16 "pages, " while OtOOPCs has 122.5. This suggests 122.6 - 16 = 106.5 pages to go, yes?

The only thing with 122.5 pages is the online portions of DCF. OtOoPCs has 72. 72-16=56.

Porthos
2014-08-29, 09:39 PM
As of 961


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

15

17

???

???


55 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-09-11, 03:07 PM
As of 962


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

16

18

???

???


54 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-09-26, 10:02 PM
OK, that looks like a chapter break. :smalltongue:

As of 963


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

17

21

???

???


51 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-10-15, 02:59 PM
As of 964


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

???

???


Book 6

18

22

???

???


50 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-10-18, 06:06 PM
*checks Rich's Twitter feed*

Huh.

Last Call for your guesses as for what the total page count for Blood Runs in the Family will be!

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-10-18, 08:45 PM
*checks Rich's Twitter feed*

Huh.

Last Call for your guesses as for what the total page count for Blood Runs in the Family will be!

Yes! It's here! :smallsmile: :smallsmile:
I'm keeping my guess.

2.5 cats
2014-10-19, 02:40 PM
Guessing 368.

Porthos
2014-10-19, 03:23 PM
We have two guesses so far, both at 368 pages. For the same reason as well, I suspect. :smallwink:

Still, Rich might just surprise us. So if anyone else wants to chime in, better do it PDQ. :smallsmile:

ti'esar
2014-10-19, 03:37 PM
I actually think BRitF will have less extra pages than normal. Put me down for... let's say 362 pages total.

Gift Jeraff
2014-10-20, 01:22 PM
364 or so.

Porthos
2014-10-20, 01:39 PM
364 or so.

If I was going to make a guess, that actually might be mine. I understand the "Rule of 16", but, I dunno. Just got a feeling it might be that. If it isn't 368, it's very probably 364.

Mordae
2014-10-20, 02:13 PM
384 (http://www.ookoodook.com/store/BloodRunsInTheFamily.shtml) wins. Not that I guessed, but I noticed guessing.

Porthos
2014-10-20, 02:17 PM
384 (http://www.ookoodook.com/store/BloodRunsInTheFamily.shtml) wins. Not that I guessed, but I noticed guessing.

Wow. That blows by ALL of us! :smalleek:

=====

Basic Block

As of 965


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

65.25

384


Book 6

19

23

???

???


49 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 965


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

318.75

17

???

10+

???

384


Book 6

19

23

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

NOTES
* Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.

SaintRidley
2014-10-20, 03:17 PM
A useless measure, but not counting Book 6 because it's not print yet, all of the print books (plus kickstarter PDF stories) total at the moment 1683 pages of content.

Book 6 brings us over 1700 so far - to 1706 pages and running.

Just in case that's ever of interest.

Porthos
2014-10-20, 03:20 PM
You know, I didn't even think to check....

384 = 24 x 16

Yep. Rule of 16 strikes again! :smallcool:


A useless measure, but not counting Book 6 because it's not print yet, all of the print books (plus kickstarter PDF stories) total at the moment 1683 pages of content.

Book 6 brings us over 1700 so far - to 1706 pages and running.

Just in case that's ever of interest.

That reminds me, I haven't updated my running charts on my home computer in ages. I really should do that.

*goes and does it*

Thanks for the reminder. :smallsmile:

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-10-20, 05:45 PM
Wow, that's a ton bigger than I expected! This is gonna be good.

(I was almost right about the price, though)

Porthos
2014-10-20, 06:15 PM
For the record, I'm including Quoth the Familiar and Durkon Turned Undead in the "Bonus Strips" section for now. I might shift one or both of them into "Other Xtras" depending on how they look in the book. Leaning toward keeping QtF in Bonus and sliding DTU into Other Xtras. As said, it'll all depend on how it plays out.

As an example, there was an out-of-continuity promotional strip designed to cater to store owners in No Cure for the Paladin Blues. That currently is under "Other Xtras" in the Advanced Block chart. The little vignettes sprinkled throughout Don't Split the Party are also in the "Other Xtras" section for that matter.

Might simply come down to an issue of continuity to me. Yes, continuity is somewhat flexible when it comes to OOTS (and it's particularly thrown out the window in SS&DT). But I gots to draw the line somewheres. :smalltongue:

Porthos
2014-10-21, 01:40 PM
From the book announcement thread:


Just a note about the book: Turns out the number of pages was incorrect; it's only 368 pages, not 384. This doesn't change anything about it, all the same material is still included, I just put the wrong number when writing the announcements based on a misreading of the bookmap (I had my signatures misnumbered in the document). I'm only mentioning it for full disclosure.

OK, this makes so much more sense! In fact, I had been doing the math on my own and I just couldn't figure out what the 'extra' 17 or so pages were.

So, I'm about to make some changes here, natch.

Also, official retroactive congratulations to Jaxzan Proditor and 2.5 cats for nailing the number and having faith in the Rule of 16. :smallsmile:

ETA:::::

Basic Block

As of 965


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

19

23

???

???


49 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 965


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

318.75

17

???

10+

???

368


Book 6

19

23

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

NOTES
* Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.

=======


A useless measure, but not counting Book 6 because it's not print yet, all of the print books (plus kickstarter PDF stories) total at the moment 1683 pages of content.

Book 6 brings us over 1700 so far - to 1706 pages and running.

Just in case that's ever of interest.

With the corrected information, this brings us to 1667 and 1690 respectively.

Still a whale of a book, obviously.

(and, as I said, I'm kinda glad for this announcement as things make sense once again :smalltongue:)

Mordae
2014-10-21, 01:50 PM
Maybe the Giant is just trolling you, Porthos :smallwink:

The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?

Porthos
2014-10-21, 01:56 PM
Maybe the Giant is just trolling you, Porthos :smallwink:

Life makes sense again, so he can troll me all he wants. :smalltongue:


The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?

I know, right? :smalltongue:

====

One of the other raison d'ętre of this thread is trying to figure out where chapter breaks might be. I figure we're looking at around 10 to 12 chapters (including calling an epilouge a chapter), depending on whether or not Rich skips a chapter for commentary and/or some chapters have more than one page of commentary.

Still, with a baseline of 10 chapters and perhaps one epilogue, where do folks think the chapter breaks might fall? Some are pretty obvious (cuts to and from Team Evil, for instance). But others might be less so.

Since it doesn't look like the bonus content will be full all-new segment breaks like what happened in DStP, let's get some predictions here. I know people have made them in the past. But now that we have a bit more info, I think we might be able to narrow things down a bit. :smallsmile:

ChristianSt
2014-10-21, 02:10 PM
One of the other raiˇson d'ęˇtre' of this thread is trying to figure out where chapter breaks might be. I figure we're looking at around 10 to 12 chapters (including calling an epilouge a chapter), depending on whether or not Rich skips a chapter for commentary and/or some chapters have more than one page of commentary.


I made this list earlier in the thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=17724349&postcount=30), though I have added two additional brakes thanks to fellow playgrounders:


673 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)-698 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html): Desert shenanigans
699 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0699.html)-709 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html): Team Evil
710 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)-734 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html): Empire of Blood (part 1)
735 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0735.html)-774 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0774.html): Empire of Blood (part 2)
775 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0775.html)-822 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0822.html): Arena
823 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0823.html)-833 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html): Team Evil
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html)-863 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html): Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html)-898 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html): Girard's pyramid (inside)
899 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0899.html)-936 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html): Advanced Escaping
937 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0937.html)-946 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html): Epilogue

Gift Jeraff
2014-10-21, 03:28 PM
1. 673-698 (desert crawlin' fools)
2. 699-709 (Team Evil)
3. 710-752 (Empire of Blood)
4. 753-774 (daddy issues)
5. 775-822 (arena)
6. 823-833 (Team Evil)
7. 834-863 (Girard's Pyramid)
8. 864-881 or 864-899 (vampires/end of the dungeon)
9. 882-936 or 900-936 (big climax)
10. 937-946 (epilogue)

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-10-21, 05:13 PM
I made this list earlier in the thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=17724349&postcount=30), though I have added two additional brakes thanks to fellow playgrounders:


673 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0673.html)-698 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html): Desert shenanigans
699 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0699.html)-709 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html): Team Evil
710 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)-734 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html): Empire of Blood (part 1)
735 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0735.html)-774 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0774.html): Empire of Blood (part 2)
775 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0775.html)-822 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0822.html): Arena
823 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0823.html)-833 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html): Team Evil
834 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0834.html)-863 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0863.html): Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html)-898 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html): Girard's pyramid (inside)
899 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0899.html)-936 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html): Advanced Escaping
937 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0937.html)-946 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html): Epilogue

I think this list looks nice.

Rogar Demonblud
2014-10-22, 07:54 PM
The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?

Maybe, maybe not. I figure I'd better hit the gym either way since the mail jerk has a habit of leaving packages 'wherever'.

Mordae
2014-10-22, 08:53 PM
Maybe, maybe not. I figure I'd better hit the gym either way since the mail jerk has a habit of leaving packages 'wherever'.

That'll teach you to leave bubbling cauldrons of acid near your front door!

On-topic, I like ChristianSt's breakdown, in a large part because I don't like to think that 50-strip chapters are the norm.

The arena chapter... takes after its empress. It's gonna take some specially reinforced binding to keep together a chapter that, by itself, is roughly the size of OtOoPCs.

Porthos
2014-10-24, 05:16 PM
As of 966


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

20

24

???

???


48 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-11-10, 02:53 PM
As of 967


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

21

25

???

???


47 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-11-20, 10:27 PM
As of 968


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

22

26

???

???


46 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-12-01, 01:04 PM
As of 969


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

23

27

???

???


45 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-12-18, 06:54 PM
As of 970


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

24

28

???

???


44 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2014-12-27, 08:29 PM
As of 971


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

318.75

49.25

368


Book 6

25

29

???

???


43 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-12-27, 08:33 PM
Out of curiosity, is anyone able to give the info for the advanced block of BRitF?

Porthos
2014-12-27, 08:46 PM
Out of curiosity, is anyone able to give the info for the advanced block of BRitF?

I will. Once I get the blessed things. :smalltongue:

2.5 cats
2014-12-31, 09:09 AM
673-698: Desert shenanigans
699-709: Team Evil
710-734: Empire of Blood (part 1)
735-774: Empire of Blood (part 2)
775-822: Arena
823-833: Team Evil
834-863: Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
864-898: Girard's pyramid (inside)
899-936: Advanced Escaping
937-946: Epilogue

Not a bad guess, but off in a few places. As one of the lucky few who has the book, here are the actual chapters, many of which contain puns in their titles:

673 - 698 Round 1: Save Room for Desert
699 - 709 Round 2: Face the Nation
710 - 741 Round 3: Farther, Sun, and Slaughter
742 - 774 Round 4: Blood Will Out
775 - 822 Round 5: Prize Fight
823 - 833 Round 6: All the Wrong Places
834 - 866 Round 7: Pyramid Scheme
867 - 891 Round 8: Life After Death
892 - 936 Round 9: Obligatory Climactic Battle
937 - 946 Round 10: Into the Sunset




There are a total of 11 pages of bonus comics integrated into the story. The bonus comics, like in the books before "Don't Split the Party," are scattered here-and-there to fill in a few things and add some humor. There are no new "mini-story-arcs."

The special feature "Quoth the Familiar" is 5 pages.
There's a very old but never-before-seen OotS comic where Durkon "Turns Undead" which is 1 page.
There a story recap (much like in the other books) done by OotS characters which is 3 pages.
A single-line page featuring Celia at the very end of the book. (Similar to what we've seen in older books)
A 1-page preface by "Durkon Thundershield"
A 1-page forward by John Rogers.
A 1-page intro by Rich Burlew, plus 11 other pages of author commentary (Chapter 9 got 2 pages.)

Anything else folks want to know? Someone else can do the characters-by-page-count thing.

Jaxzan Proditor
2014-12-31, 10:37 AM
Awesome! Thanks for posting the stats. Those of you with books may want to head over to other threads that need this kind of information (like the character appearance one). Now I'm even more eager to get my book.

pluizig
2014-12-31, 02:31 PM
There a story recap (much like in the other books) done by OotS characters which is 3 pages.

(...)

Anything else folks want to know?

Is the recap done by various characters? Previous books had only one character do this (Elan, V, Belkar).

ella ventic
2014-12-31, 02:35 PM
Wow, some of that really surprises me. The run from 710-774 had many potential round breaks in it, but 741/742 hadn't even made it on my list of possibilities! Even though there is a time shift and a mini establishing shot and everything!

But the REAL shocks for me were the breaks for Rounds 7-9 (834-936). I did think that the injury might mean a new round (as in NCftPB), although I wasn't sure of it, but I certainly didn't think 866/867 would be the place to start a new round. Still not sure why it is, actually. (shrug) The ways of the Giant are mysterious and unknowable. Unless he explains them in, say, commentaries, of course. :)

But the biggest one of all, I was 100% DEAD CERTAIN SURE that strip #900 would start the climactic round. So the previous round would end with the cliffhangery explosion in #899 and then there is that nice establishing shot of the crater to pick up. I thought it would give a nice sense of time passing as the explosion itself happened, too. Ah well, my "dead certain sure" in this case was dead certain WRONG. SO WRONG! :smalltongue:

Thanks so much for posting that, 2.5 cats!

2.5 cats
2014-12-31, 02:45 PM
Is the recap done by various characters? Previous books had only one character do this (Elan, V, Belkar).

Two characters who "take turns." Probably best to leave it at that.


Thanks so much for posting that, 2.5 cats!

You're welcome! :smallsmile: I knew I was one of the first folks to get it, but assumed that most of you would have your books within a couple of days. My book arrived 8 days ago and already has been read cover to cover. Hopefully you all will get yours sooner rather than later!

Porthos
2015-01-01, 02:32 PM
Anything else folks want to know? Someone else can do the characters-by-page-count thing.

Thanks for the 411, 2.5 cats. :smallsmile:

I do have one question since I still haven't gotten my copies yet. How was the bottom space of 841 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0841.html) handled? For the online comic, there was about 1/4th of a page missing and I wondered if something was put there at the bottom of the page (doodle, commentary, Something Else) or if the surrounding pages were elongated/stiched together in some degree.

2.5 cats
2015-01-01, 03:24 PM
I do have one question since I still haven't gotten my copies yet. How was the bottom space of 841 handled?

That 3/4 page was expanded to fill the full page. Looking at the page in the book, it's clear that The Giant added a bit of art to the top and the bottom. For example, at the bottom of the online page http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0841.html there's the dead person in front who is cut off just below the eyes. In the book we see almost their entire head. Similarly the windows at the top of the page go up a bit further. There are fatter-than-usual margins at the top and bottom of the book page, though.

Don't get too excited--the expanded artwork really doesn't convey any new information.

Porthos
2015-01-01, 03:48 PM
That 3/4 page was expanded to fill the full page. Looking at the page in the book, it's clear that The Giant added a bit of art to the top and the bottom. For example, at the bottom of the page there's the dead person in front who is cut off just below the eyes. In the book we see almost their entire head. Similarly the windows at the top of the page go up a bit further. There are fatter-than-usual margins on the top and bottom of the page, though.

He's done stuff like that before (the one half page in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0430.html) was turned into a two page Splash Page, for instance), so that doesn't surprise me. Thanks again, 2.5 cats! :smallsmile:

*thinks about how to handle this*
*goes back and checks what he did for W&XPs*

Looks like I just folded it back in to "Online Pages" and upped the page count that way. Sounds about right.

Therefore, without further ado, and subject to minor adjustment once I get the book in my grubby little hands (For instance, it's still up in the air how I am going to handle the Durkon Turned Undead strip - I really want to see it in context for myself before I make a final decision on it):

Basic Block

As of 971


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

319

49

368


Book 6

25

29

???

???


43 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 971 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

319

17

10

14

8

368


Book 6

25

29

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary*
Other Xtras**
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

NOTES
* Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Jaxzan Proditor
2015-01-01, 04:15 PM
I'm probably happier than I should be that the Advanced block has been filled out. I'm definitely happier than I should be that the .75 is gone. :smallbiggrin:

Porthos
2015-01-12, 08:58 PM
Now that I have BRitF in my hands, and have had a chance to see all of the nitpicky little details myself, I've done some minor reshuffling of the chart for BRitF.

First and foremost, I shifted one page out of "Bonus Strips" and into "Other Xtras". I gave it a good long thought and decided that Durkon Turns Undead really does belong in "Other Xtras". It's a lot like the promo strip that is attached to NCftPB, and I've been ignoring Rich's 'official' bonus strip count as it was somewhat inconsistent as to what was counting as a bonus strip from book to book. As an author, that's his well-earned prerogative. But as a curator, I want to try to be a bit more consistent on my charts here. :smallwink:

I did add a bit to the notes section saying that "Other Xtras" can contain Out of Continuity strips. Yeah, yeah I know. Continuity is a real nebulous concept in OotSland. But I gots to draw my lines somewheres.

Secondly, three other pages that were either 1/2th of a page or 3/4rs of a page were slightly re-worked in the book. We've already covered what happened in 841. However, the last half of 827 was also expanded (as well has having a Bonus Strip inserted into it [which was indeed counted as a Bonus Strip]). One panel was very slightly altered (to reflect what happened in the Bonus Strip) with the last panel greatly expanded to cover the bottom half of the page.

Also, the last row of panels in 839 was shifted over to the next page with a brand new long panel replacing it. The second page of 839, in conjunction with the shifted panel, was then expanded to cover the whole page.

In all three of these cases, using prior precedent of reworked pages [mostly from W&XPs], I have counted the reworked page as an "Online Page" and not a "Bonus Strip" or "Other Xtras". I have also added a note reflecting this saying:

* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

It ain't perfect, but it'll have to do. :smallsmile:

As a result of all of this, the "Online Page Count" for BRitF was raised by one and the "Xtra Pages" in the Basic Block was lowered by one (the "Other Xtra Pages" in the Advanced bloc was a placeholder number until I received the book and ultimately will remain at the number it was previously due to pages shuffling about).

=========

Basic Block

As of 972


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

26

30

???

???


42 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 972 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

25

29

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Jaxzan Proditor
2015-01-12, 10:03 PM
Looks great! I think your asterisks may be off for the print-only books block.

Porthos
2015-01-13, 12:00 AM
Looks great! I think your asterisks may be off for the print-only books block.

Forgot about that. That's what happens when you're reshuffling a buncha things at once. :smalltongue: Fixed in last post and on OP.

Thanks! :smallsmile:

Porthos
2015-01-22, 11:38 PM
As of 973


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

27

31

???

???


41 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-02-02, 04:52 PM
Don't know why I haven't been including it so far, but as of today the OP now contains the Page Count from the Gygax Magazine. :smallsmile:

What I did was threw it in the spoiler block from the KS information and then renamed that section "Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled".

No, there is no reason to spoiler the information for Gygax Magazine. Well, actually, yes there is. The Gygax Magazine section looked really stupid sitting by itself. :smalltongue: So for cosmetic reasons, I combined it with the Kickstarter releases and changed the title as described above.

Whenever I get a new issue, I'll update the chart, both in the OP and at the end of the thread.

Speaking of which:

Basic Block

As of 974


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

28

32

???

???


40 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 974 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

28

32

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

Gygax

5

n/a

5


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2015-02-12, 05:52 PM
As of 975


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

29

33

???

???


39 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-02-19, 08:27 PM
Haven't even read the latest KS update, yet I'm updating this thread for you all. Dedication, I tells ya. Dedication. :smalltongue:

Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 975 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

29

33

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


Gygax

5

n/a

5


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2015-02-24, 07:58 PM
Basic Block

As of 976


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

30

34

???

???


38 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-03-10, 10:49 AM
As of 977


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

31

35

???

???


37 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-03-19, 12:38 PM
As of 978


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

32

36

???

???


36 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

===

Milestone of sorts. Book 6 is now exactly half the size of On the Origins of PCs. :smallsmile:

Rogar Demonblud
2015-03-19, 12:49 PM
And Rich has hardly done more than clear his throat and tap on the mic.

Porthos
2015-03-28, 11:48 AM
As of 979


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

33

38.5

???

???


33.5 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-04-17, 12:10 PM
As of 980


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

34

41

???

???


31 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-04-27, 08:39 PM
As of 981


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

35

44

???

???


28 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-04, 01:37 PM
As of 982


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

36

45

???

???


27 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-06, 11:32 PM
As of 983


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

37

46

???

???


26 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-11, 01:20 PM
As of 984


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

38

47

???

???


25 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-13, 10:57 PM
As of 985


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

39

49

???

???


23 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-18, 01:08 PM
As of 986


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

40

50

???

???


22 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-21, 10:26 PM
As of 987


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

41

52

???

???


20 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.

Porthos
2015-05-27, 11:22 PM
As of 988


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

42

53

???

???


19 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
59 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-06-02, 10:11 PM
As of 989


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

43

54

???

???


18 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
58 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-06-12, 12:53 PM
As of 990


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

44

55

???

???


17 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs
57 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-06-22, 07:52 PM
As of 991


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

45

58

???

???


14 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
54 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-06-29, 05:07 PM
As of 992


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

46

59

???

???


13 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
53 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-07-08, 12:30 PM
As of 993


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

47

60

???

???


12 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
52 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-07-20, 01:30 PM
As of 994


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

48

62

???

???


10 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
50 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-07-30, 03:06 PM
As of 995


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

49

63

???

???


9 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
49 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-08-06, 12:15 PM
As of 996


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

50

65

???

???


7 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
47 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-08-10, 01:56 PM
As of 997


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

51

66

???

???


6 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
46 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

137beth
2015-08-11, 03:54 PM
Why do you keep putting an asterisk in the "# of Online Pages*" column without the asterisk referring to anything?

Jaxzan Proditor
2015-08-11, 03:55 PM
Why do you keep putting an asterisk in the "# of Online Pages*" column without the asterisk referring to anything?

The first post has the notes that the asterisks link to.

Porthos
2015-08-11, 04:11 PM
A fair point though. Perhaps I'll remove it from the update stream that gets posted in-thread. Though that would entail an extra piece of busywork that I might forget to do on occasion.

Porthos
2015-08-13, 02:58 PM
As of 998


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

52

69

???

???


3 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
43 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Porthos
2015-08-20, 12:25 PM
As of 999


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

53

72

???

???


Book 6 is now equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
40 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-08-27, 09:32 PM
Alright, Stupid Question Time. As peeps might be aware, digital PDfs of the books are now being made (presuming the first two are successful).

The page count of the PDFs and physical books are exactly the same. However, as one of the perks, in Dungeon Crawlin' Fools a blank page was converted to a full page of commentary. This doesn't affect the "Basic Block" but it does affect the Advanced Block:

Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 999 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

53

72

???

???

???

???

???


Namely the numbers for Commentary Pages and Other Xtras would each be adjusted by +1 and -1 respectively.

The Stupid Question is... How should the existence of the PDFs affect the charts, if at all? I suppose I could start introduce a whole new block for the PDFs, but that seems overkill. Alternatively, I suppose I could see if I could break those two columns with physical and PDF subcatagories. Or I could just ignore the whole thing. :smalltongue: The latter option annoys me on some level though.

So, thoughts on how to handle the PDFs? At the moment, it's a minor difference. But even a minor difference might want to be addressed in the charts.

Jaxzan Proditor
2015-08-27, 09:37 PM
Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 999 and Blood Runs in the Family


DCF (pdf)

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5 (9.5)

6 (5)

160



Would something along these lines work?

Grey_Wolf_c
2015-08-27, 09:38 PM
The Stupid Question is... How should the existence of the PDFs affect the charts, if at all? I suppose I could start introduce a whole new block for the PDFs, but that seems overkill. Alternatively, I suppose I could see if I could break those two columns with physical and PDF subcatagories. Or I could just ignore the whole thing. :smalltongue: The latter option annoys me on some level though.

So, thoughts on how to handle the PDFs? At the moment, it's a minor difference. But even a minor difference might want to be addressed in the charts.

Take a page out of Wrecan's book, and add "(+1)" in the colour of your choosing to the relevant columns. Then put a note in the NOTES, and call it a day (although you're getting to the point of ridiculeness in the notes asterisk count, so maybe convert it into a full FAQ?).

GW

Porthos
2015-08-27, 09:52 PM
Would something along these lines work?

Hmmm. Hadn't considered that. Yes, something along those ideas might work.

Take a page out of Wrecan's book, and add "(+1)" in the colour of your choosing to the relevant columns.
Also an interesting idea, though I'd want to pair it with a "(-1)" for the other column(s) affected.


although you're getting to the point of ridiculeness in the notes asterisk count, so maybe convert it into a full FAQ?

Yes, some sort of FAQ/key might be in order, if not now, then soon. I've been getting a little annoyed by the Notes Creep for a while now. Could even include my rationale for specific edge cases.

Yes, very good suggestion here. :smallsmile: Not going to do it immediately, but I'll put it on the To Do List.

Porthos
2015-08-27, 10:37 PM
As of 1000


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

54

75.75

???

???


36.25 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

====

I am quite sure that final panel will be expanded to be a two pager when it gets into book form. Perhaps with slight additional content. But, for now, 1.75 is what it is (more or less). :smallsmile:

Porthos
2015-08-28, 12:35 PM
UPDATE::::: As I suspected but hadn't had comfirmation until after I posted the latest block, the last panel of Comic #1000 will indeed be two pages in the upcoming book (bringing the total page count for this update to five). Therefore according to:


* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

(specifcially the "resized" bit), I am altering the count of the pages. Something someting "don't alter them further" something something. :smallwink:

Basic Block

As of 1000


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

54

77

???

???


35 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

rgrekejin
2015-08-28, 05:21 PM
Have you considered adding the Supercollider Webcomic Mashup strips to the "OotS not yet compiled" block? Or are you refraining from doing so because they're non-canon and it is highly unlikely that they will ever be compiled anywhere? If you do want to add it, it's a comic 25 pages in total length, of which 5.25 pages are black-and-white OotS strips, with one additional page which might loosely be considered "extras" (a title page with an OotS-style drawing of the antagonistic interdimensional doppelganger Gods in the background).

Porthos
2015-08-28, 05:59 PM
Have you considered adding the Supercollider Webcomic Mashup strips to the "OotS not yet compiled" block?

How sad does it make me look that I have thought about it? :smallredface: :smallsmile:


Or are you refraining from doing so because they're non-canon and it is highly unlikely that they will ever be compiled anywhere?

It's not so much "non-canon" (SS&DT blew that out of the water) as the "unlikely to ever see the light of day anwhere" consideration.

If I did include it, it'd only be for the OotS stuff which you noted in a bit I snipped.

PS: Yes, I do have it on hand for reference. :smallwink:

PPS: Yes, I also considered the Graph Updates from the KS drive. But even I have my limits. :smalltongue: Plus, you know, actually trying to figure out how to "count" them page wise, since they were a) non-standard length and b) variable length as the drive went on.

...

Of course, I am kinda hoping that they get included in the mythical "Book K", thus solving my problem for me. :smallbiggrin:

rgrekejin
2015-08-28, 06:18 PM
How sad does it make me look that I have thought about it? :smallredface: :smallsmile:

Heh, I know what you mean. I've got a lot of the old OotS-store images from before I started reading the comic in 2006 saved as jpeg files, courtesy of the wayback machine.

Porthos
2015-08-31, 12:09 PM
As of 1001


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

55

78

???

???


34 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-03, 11:51 AM
As of 1002


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

56

79

???

???


33 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-08, 02:00 PM
As of 1003


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

57

80

???

???


32 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-11, 12:44 PM
As of 1004


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

58

81

???

???


31 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine [As of Gygax #6])


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


Gygax

6

n/a

6


NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-15, 12:51 PM
As of 1005


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

59

82

???

???


30 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-21, 12:07 PM
As of 1006


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

60

83

???

???


29 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-09-30, 01:23 PM
As of 1007


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

61

85

???

???


27 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

137beth
2015-09-30, 03:03 PM
So far, book six has the highest online pages to online strips ratio, partly due to the abundance of multi-page comics surrounding strip 1000. WaXP is second, followed by DstP, BRiF, NCfPB, and lastly DCF.

Porthos
2015-10-08, 10:09 PM
As of 1008


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

62

86

???

???


26 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-10-19, 12:52 PM
As of 1009


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

63

88

???

???


24 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-11-01, 03:51 PM
Knew I forgot to do somethin'. :smalltongue:

=====

As of 1010


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

64

89

???

???


23 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-11-06, 05:37 PM
As of 1011


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

65

90

???

???


22 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-11-16, 12:59 PM
As of 1012


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

66

92.5

???

???


19.5 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-11-24, 02:43 PM
As of 1013


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

67

94

???

???


18 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-12-02, 10:17 PM
As of 1014


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

68

95

???

???


17 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-12-14, 01:33 PM
As of 1015


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

69

96

???

???


16 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2015-12-18, 02:33 PM
As of 1016


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

70

97

???

???


15 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

gken1
2015-12-24, 05:52 PM
Keep it going Rich!

Porthos
2016-01-04, 11:15 AM
As of 1017


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

71

98

???

???


14 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-01-11, 05:35 PM
As of 1018


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

72

99

???

???


13 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-01-18, 01:38 PM
As of 1019


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

73

100

???

???


12 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

====

100 pages now in for Book 6! :smallcool:

Emanick
2016-01-18, 06:49 PM
As of 1019


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

73

100

???

???


12 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

====

100 pages now in for Book 6! :smallcool:

Porthos, have you considered integrating the prequels and SS&DT into the table? Obviously there would need to be some N/As thrown in there, but I for one think it would make for a more interesting visual.

Porthos
2016-01-18, 07:38 PM
Porthos, have you considered integrating the prequels and SS&DT into the table? Obviously there would need to be some N/As thrown in there, but I for one think it would make for a more interesting visual.

It's in the OP. :smallsmile::

Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1019 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

73

100

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine [As of Gygax #6])


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


Gygax

6

n/a

6


I only repost the "advanced bloc" if there is a change so to not drown out the page with redundant info. :smallsmile:

137beth
2016-01-19, 10:29 AM
Huzzah, we reached 100 pages for this book!

Porthos
2016-01-22, 06:13 PM
As of 1020


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

74

101

???

???


11 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-01, 05:18 PM
As of 1021


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

75

102

???

???


10 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
58 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-09, 02:11 AM
As of 1022


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

76

103

???

???


9 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
57 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-12, 01:24 PM
As of 1023


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

77

104

???

???


8 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
56 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-16, 04:49 PM
As of 1024


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

78

105

???

???


7 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
55 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-22, 02:00 PM
As of 1025


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

79

106

???

???


6 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
54 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-02-29, 01:06 PM
As of 1026


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

80

108

???

???


4 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
52 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-03-07, 01:48 PM
As of 1027


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

81

109

???

???


3 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
51 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-03-16, 12:09 PM
As of 1028


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

82

110

???

???


2 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
50 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-03-21, 01:49 PM
As of 1029


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

83

111

???

???


1 page to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
49 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-03-25, 03:14 PM
As of 1030


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

84

112

???

???


Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
48 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Dr. Gamera
2016-03-25, 08:37 PM
Book 6 is equal to the size of Start of Darkness and Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales

Yay! Now it's time to publish Book 6!

What do you mean, "that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works"?

Porthos
2016-03-29, 01:04 PM
As of 1031


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

85

113

???

???


47 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

===

Also, I think it is safe to say: Start of new chapter round. :smallwink:

zql
2016-03-31, 01:22 PM
Oh, I loved the previous thread for BRitF, I didn't notice this one 'til just now.

We have chapter 1 (947-990) and chapter 2 (991-1030) completed.

ChristianSt
2016-03-31, 01:28 PM
Oh, I loved the previous thread for BRitF, I didn't notice this one 'til just now.

We have chapter 1 (947-990) and chapter 2 (991-1030) completed.

I would even argue that we already have been 3 chapters, since I would expect that the Tinkertown segment (starting with 964) is complete chapter of its own.

Rogar Demonblud
2016-04-01, 12:22 AM
Hey! Rich isn't some wannabe, sticking to trite old things like 'chapters'. He's a rebel, and writes in Rounds!

Porthos
2016-04-06, 01:06 PM
As of 1032


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

86

114

???

???


46 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-04-14, 12:52 PM
As of 1033


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

87

115

???

???


45 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-04-22, 01:20 PM
As of 1034


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

88

116

???

???


44 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-05-03, 12:57 PM
As of 1035


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

89

118

???

???


42 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

GreatWyrmGold
2016-05-03, 02:47 PM
A quick, dirty Excel linear forecast suggests that the sixth book will probably have somewhere around 400 pages in total. If this is the case, and if the comic continues to have about 1.2 pages per comic on average, I'd expect about 230-240 more comics before the sixth book drops.

ti'esar
2016-05-03, 02:52 PM
A quick, dirty Excel linear forecast suggests that the sixth book will probably have somewhere around 400 pages in total. If this is the case, and if the comic continues to have about 1.2 pages per comic on average, I'd expect about 230-240 more comics before the sixth book drops.

The Giant has indicated that it's unlikely any future book will be as long as BRitF.

Porthos
2016-05-16, 01:09 PM
As of 1036


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

90

119

???

???


41 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-05-20, 01:15 PM
As of 1037


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

91

120

???

???


40 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-05-31, 12:51 PM
As of 1038


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

92

121

???

???


39 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-06-07, 12:36 PM
As of 1039


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

93

123

???

???


37 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-06-17, 01:39 PM
As of 1040


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

94

124

???

???


36 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-06-21, 05:00 PM
(posting both blocks for start of new forum page)

As of 1041

Basic Block



Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

95

125

???

???


35 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1041 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

95

125

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


Gygax

6

n/a

6


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2016-06-29, 01:40 PM
Welp! Looks like it's time for me to figure out how to represent the PDFs as separate entries/tables! :smalltongue:

Bit under the weather the last few days, so it's gonna be a while before I figure out how to best represent the differences in ebook and treebook form. Slight differences in presentation of set number of pages is one thing. Eight whole new pages of stuff, which is the entire raison d'etre of this project, quite another. :smallwink:

Probably just going to add another table in the Advanced Block entilted "PDFs" and throw all of Kickstarter and Gumroad PDfs there. Maaaaaaaaaaybe add a column reflecting PDF info in the other blocks. Maybe.

Till then, update time:

As of 1042


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

96

126

???

???


34 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-07-06, 12:32 PM
As of 1043


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

97

127

???

???


33 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-07-14, 01:22 PM
As of 1044


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

98

128

???

???


32 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-07-19, 02:16 PM
As of 1045


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

99

129

???

???


31 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-08-01, 01:44 PM
As of 1046


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

100

130

???

???


30 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Jaxzan Proditor
2016-08-01, 02:51 PM
Wow, I can't believe that it's been a 100 strips into the new book. Feels like just yesterday when we were learning about Durkon's childhood.

Porthos
2016-08-08, 06:14 PM
As of 1047


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

101

131

???

???


29 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-08-12, 02:16 PM
As of 1048


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

102

132

???

???


28 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-08-18, 08:14 PM
As of 1049


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

103

133

???

???


27 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-08-30, 12:42 PM
As of 1050


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

104

135

???

???


25 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-09-07, 04:47 PM
As of 1051


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

105

136.5

???

???


22 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-09-15, 11:41 AM
As of 1052


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

106

137.5

???

???


23 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-09-21, 10:45 AM
As of 1053


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

107

138.5

???

???


22 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-10-03, 11:16 PM
As of 1054


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

108

139.5

???

???


21 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-10-14, 03:54 PM
As of 1055


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

109

140.5

???

???


20 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Jaxzan Proditor
2016-10-14, 04:46 PM
That might not be the right strip number...

Rogar Demonblud
2016-10-14, 05:39 PM
We wish we had that much OOTS awesomeness.

Porthos
2016-10-14, 10:52 PM
Fixed. :smallsmile:

Porthos
2016-10-24, 08:13 PM
As of 1056


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

110

142.5

???

???


18 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-10-31, 07:49 PM
As of 1057


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

111

143.5

???

???


17 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-11-09, 02:17 PM
As of 1058


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

112

144.5

???

???


16 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

137beth
2016-11-13, 10:15 PM
Okay, who has predictions as to how big book six will ultimately be in comparison to the other books so far?
My guess is that it will be a little bit smaller than BRitF, but still bigger than all previous OOTS books. That's just a guess, though.

Jaxzan Proditor
2016-11-14, 03:32 PM
Honestly, I'm going to wait until we get a better idea of the overall plot for this book until I guess how long it will go for. My guess is that it will wind up being shorter than Book 5, if only because the halfway point was supposed to be in Book 4, but I also wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened to run over that.

Emanick
2016-11-15, 10:07 AM
Yeah, the Harry Potter Principle suggests that Book 5 will be the longest one, that Book 6 will be shorter, and that Book 7 will be of similar length to Book 5, but a bit shorter. Far be it from me to second-guess the Harry Potter Principle.

Porthos
2016-11-17, 07:35 PM
As of 1059


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

113

145.5

???

???


15 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-12-05, 03:10 PM
As of 1060


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

114

147.5

???

???


13 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2016-12-21, 02:52 AM
As of 1061


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

115

148.5

???

???


12 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-01-09, 03:53 PM
As of 1062


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

116

149.5

???

???


11 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-01-17, 04:21 PM
As of 1063


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

117

150.5

???

???


10 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-02-01, 03:32 PM
(Top of page full post)

Basic Block

As of 1064


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

118

151.5

???

???


9 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1064 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

118

151.5

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


Gygax

6

n/a

6


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2017-02-08, 02:10 PM
As of 1065


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

119

152.5

???

???


8 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-03-09, 04:05 PM
As of 1067


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

121

155.5

???

???


5 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-03-15, 01:55 PM
As of 1068


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

122

156.5

???

???


4 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-04-10, 03:07 PM
As of 1070


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

124

158.5

???

???


2 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-05-15, 09:24 PM
UPDATED FOR How the Paladin Got His Scar:

===

Basic Block

As of 1070


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

124

158.5

???

???


2 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1070 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

124

158.5

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


HtPGHS

95[/center]

1

96


Gygax

6

n/a

6


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2017-05-18, 10:21 PM
As of 1071


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

125

159.5

???

???


1 page to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Aedilred
2017-05-19, 01:53 AM
A suggestion/query: Is there any particular reason why the names of the books need to be abbreviated in the tables? I suppose it's possible some of the longer ones could push the table to be too wide for the page unless there are line breaks, but that's not the case for all (and also, line breaks are a thing).

While the main books are, just about, seen often enough in abbreviated form that they're recognisable, some of the others often take me a minute to figure out what they're referring to, especially when that title isn't in particularly widespread use (Spoiler Alert and Uncivil Servant in particular).

At the very least it would be useful to have a key, to clarify which abbreviations correspond to which books.

Rogar Demonblud
2017-05-19, 10:27 AM
When Porthos was spelling out the titles, the rest of the chart was pretty much pushed off the screen.

Is hovertext an option? That'll allow someone to see the title without cluttering the screen.

Porthos
2017-05-25, 01:46 AM
As of 1072


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

126

160.5

???

???


Book 6 is now greater than the size of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools
84 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-05-25, 01:48 AM
A suggestion/query: Is there any particular reason why the names of the books need to be abbreviated in the tables? I suppose it's possible some of the longer ones could push the table to be too wide for the page unless there are line breaks, but that's not the case for all (and also, line breaks are a thing).

While the main books are, just about, seen often enough in abbreviated form that they're recognisable, some of the others often take me a minute to figure out what they're referring to, especially when that title isn't in particularly widespread use (Spoiler Alert and Uncivil Servant in particular).

At the very least it would be useful to have a key, to clarify which abbreviations correspond to which books.


When Porthos was spelling out the titles, the rest of the chart was pretty much pushed off the screen.

Is hovertext an option? That'll allow someone to see the title without cluttering the screen.

It's a good point. Maybe I'll play with a test table somewhere and see how it looks on various screen widths.

Alternatively, as suggested, I might go ahead provide a 'key' at the bottom of the post for all of the titles. If I don't like how things look on a table, I'm leaning in that direction right now.

137beth
2017-05-25, 06:32 AM
And book six has now passed half the number of online pages as BRiF.

SaintRidley
2017-05-26, 12:24 AM
Just a heads up, your update for 1072 still says 1071.

Rogar Demonblud
2017-05-26, 11:10 AM
Of course, now we're on 1073.

Porthos
2017-05-28, 01:01 PM
As of 1073


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

127

161.5

???

???


83 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

======


Just a heads up, your update for 1072 still says 1071.

It's a bit of a moot point as Roger pointed out, but thanks for the heads up. :smallsmile: Fixed in prior post.

Porthos
2017-05-29, 01:33 PM
As of 1074


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

128

163

???

???


81 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Jaxzan Proditor
2017-05-29, 01:44 PM
I've gotta ask: is anyone else more than a little satisfied that we got another half page so the total count is an integer? :smallbiggrin:

Porthos
2017-05-29, 05:16 PM
I've gotta ask: is anyone else more than a little satisfied that we got another half page so the total count is an integer? :smallbiggrin:

A teeny bit. :smallsmile:

I'm sure that Rich set that page up back in 1051 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1051.html) as either a splash page/extended page (either there or in 1052) or left the half page intentionally blank for future commentary/extras.

But until I know which, half page it stayed in the columns. :smallwink:

Porthos
2017-06-05, 06:49 PM
As of 1075


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

129

165

???

???


79 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

unbeliever536
2017-06-06, 12:55 PM
Have you considered tracking the "density" of strips? That is to say, the ratio of online pages / online strips. It's a bit interesting.

Doing the calculation now (and rounding at the hundredths), I get:

DCF: 1.01
NCftPB: 1.09
WXP: 1.32
DSP: 1.20
BRitF: 1.17
current book: 1.28

Overall total: 1.18.

We see a clear transition from DCF to NCftPB and then into the WXP through BRitF "era", where the density, seriousness, and complexity of the story shot up. There's also a sub-transition from WXP to DSP, where density drops again; neither DSP nor BRitF have the same degree of full-book continuous plot on a single topic. The current book is clearly a visual transition, but how different is it structurally? Looks like it's quite different; there's been a transition away from the old-school 9-panel text-heavy format to an expansive, varied page layout featuring big atmosphere panels (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0964.html), which invariably leads to more pages per update, given that the Giant is giving us the same(ish) amount of story per update.

I'd also be interested to see a breakdown by chapter. For example, I wonder if the Thieves' Guild was underdense compared to other sections around it online, and bulked out with the addition of the Grubwiggler raid (or maybe the reverse is true, or neither). I also wonder if the underdensity in BRitF is weighted towards the end / right after the Giant's thumb injury, since there are a couple of single-page updates in there that plausibly could have been a multi-page single update, but weren't, maybe because the injury would have slowed things down too much for that to work. It also looks like BRitF is dominating the average, which makes sense as it is about half again as long as the others in its "era".

(memories of Andrew Hussie's "13 year break" hypothetical keep me thinking about this stuff)

Porthos
2017-06-16, 03:58 PM
As of 1076


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

130

167.5

???

???


77 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-06-16, 04:44 PM
Just went ahead and FINALLY put in an abbreviation key to the OP. :smallsmile:

Also went ahead and moved the Kickstarter and Gygax magazine blocks outside of a spoiler block. Not really sure why I even put it in there in the first place, to be honest. I did however put the abbreviation key in a spoiler block. Mostly for considerations of post length.

Might still tweak it a bit, but for now this is how it looks, sans spoiler block:

ABBREVIATION KEY


Abbv
Full Name of Book/PDF/Magazine


DCF
Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


NCftPB
No Cure for the Paladin Blues[/center]


W&XP
War and XPs


DStP
Don't Split the Party[/center]

BRitF
Blood Runs in the Family


OtOoPC
On the Origins of PCs[/center]

SoD
Start of Darkness


SS&DT
Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales[/center]


US
Uncivil Servant


H&J
Haleo & Julelan[/center]


SA
Spoiler Alert


HtPGHS
How the Paladin Got His Scar[/center]


Gygax
Gygax Magazine

Porthos
2017-07-02, 03:30 AM
As of 1078


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

132

170.5

???

???


74 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

LadyEowyn
2017-07-02, 10:09 PM
Pretty notable that the book's already more than half the size of (online) Blood Runs in the Family, give that it doesn't feel even half done (even assuming that the Durkon plot is the core plot of this book and we won't get to the final Gate until Book 7, which seems like a good assumption at this point.).

Jaxzan Proditor
2017-07-03, 06:46 AM
Sometimes that can be hard to judge, but yeah, it does look like Book 6 will make strong competition for the Longest Book award. Keep in mind that 132 strips in for BRitF was when the Order was fighting the Linear Guild for the first time, so there's still room for plenty of plot without surpassing BRitF. On the other hand, if the ratio of pages to strips keeps up it's current pace, it'll probably be larger than BRitF even if it has fewer strips.

Cizak
2017-07-03, 09:11 AM
On the other other hand, Rich has stated that BRitF ran too long and now has the experience of what happens when he doesn't pace himself properly. So it's still possible he's aiming to wrap this book up quicker than BRitF.

Porthos
2017-07-04, 01:37 AM
Pretty notable that the book's already more than half the size of (online) Blood Runs in the Family, give that it doesn't feel even half done (even assuming that the Durkon plot is the core plot of this book and we won't get to the final Gate until Book 7, which seems like a good assumption at this point.).

I'd guess we're in the last stages of the Giants/mutiny plot. Prob no more than a handful of strips. Probably.:smalltongue:

Guessing at a rough framework for the rest of the book:

Stop Durkula's plan.
Problems stopping Durk.
Live look-in w/Team Evil (could be placed at any time a Rich wants a cutaway for time passing)
Durkula v Roy II: The Wrath of Greenhilt
The Search for Durkon Durkon gets rezzed, glimpse at fallout from his internal trauma (more in book seven?)
Team Evil breaks through, finds final gate.
DUHN DUHN DUHHHHN.

More or less. Seems about right for the half way point to me. Maybe even three-fifths, if the stopping Durkula's plan coincides with the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny between the two. Plenty of room for additional subplots. Like while we could guess that Tarquin and Roy/Élan would eventually butt heads, the Durkon becomes a vampire subplot came out of the blue.

Mind, that doesn't mean the subplots will unfold the way we suspect. Again, we could guess that the Draketooth clan would be important, but not the way it unfolded. Going back two books, we could also guess that V getting more and more coo-coo for cocoa puffs would have consequences, but not necessarily THOSE consequences.

If I had to guess at a 'surprise' subplot, it'd be Durkon doing something awesome to throw Durkula off his stride. After all, last time we saw the two, Durkon was in a really bad place mentally. Just get the feeling that something NEEDS to happen in this book to, ahem, rally his spirits. Even something as minor as an overhead comment from Roy (already foreshadowed to a degree by the new High Preist of Thor).

Alright, I suppose that isn't a surprise subplot, per se. :smallwink: But I can see a dozen to two dozen strips devoted to Durkon regaining the upper hand in their mental battle, even though it doesn't lead to him 'controlling' his body. No, more a personal growth for Durkon and doing something to make Durkula make a critical error at a critical time, thus causing his downfall.

Rogar Demonblud
2017-07-04, 03:50 PM
We probably also have a page or two dealing with the damage to the Mechane. I wouldn't be surprised if the dwarves decide she's no longer airworthy and impound her until repairs are completed. It'd fit with their Lawful Stupid depiction.

Porthos
2017-07-10, 04:19 PM
As of 1081


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

135

173.5

???

???


71 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-07-17, 12:18 PM
As of 1083


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

137

175.5

???

???


69 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-07-24, 01:10 PM
Basic Block

As of 1085


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

139

177.5

???

???


67 pages to go until Book 6 is greater than the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues


Advanced Blocks

Compilation Books as of 1085 and Blood Runs in the Family


Book
Online Strips
Online Pages*
Bonus Strips
Chapters
Commentary Pages**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

18

5

8.5

6

160


NCftPB

180

197

12

10

16

9

244


W&XP

183

242

14

8

15.5

8.5

288


DStP

188

226

17

9

12.083

7.917

272


BRitF

274

320

16

10

14

8

368


Book 6

139

177.5

???

???

???

???

???


Print Only Books


Book
Comic Pages
Chapters
Commentary**
Other Xtras***
Total Pages

OtOoPC

66[/center]

n/a

2

4

72

SoD

107

n/a

2

3

112


SS&DT

97.5

4

5.175

5.325

112


Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)


PDF
Comic Pages
Cover Page
Total Pages

US

12[/center]

1

13


H&J

25

1

26

SA

16[/center]

1

17


HtPGHS

95[/center]

1

96


Gygax

6

n/a

6


ABBREVIATION KEY


Abbv
Full Name of Book/PDF/Magazine


DCF
Dungeon Crawlin' Fools


NCftPB
No Cure for the Paladin Blues[/center]


W&XP
War and XPs


DStP
Don't Split the Party[/center]

BRitF
Blood Runs in the Family


OtOoPC
On the Origins of PCs[/center]

SoD
Start of Darkness


SS&DT
Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales[/center]


US
Uncivil Servant


H&J
Haleo & Julelan[/center]


SA
Spoiler Alert


HtPGHS
How the Paladin Got His Scar[/center]


Gygax
Gygax Magazine


NOTES
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
*** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.

Porthos
2017-07-27, 05:40 PM
As of 1086


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

140

179

???

???


65 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-07-31, 01:18 PM
As of 1087


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

141

180

???

???


64 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-08-07, 08:03 PM
As of 1089


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

143

183

???

???


61 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-08-17, 05:18 PM
As of 1092


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

146

186

???

???


58 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-08-25, 10:05 PM
As of 1094


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

148

188

???

???


56 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-08-29, 12:31 PM
Basic Block

As of 1095


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

149

189

???

???


55 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-09-05, 12:51 PM
As of 1096


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

150

190

???

???


54 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-09-09, 01:01 PM
As of 1097


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

151

191

???

???


53 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

Porthos
2017-09-12, 07:31 PM
As of 1098


Book
# of Online Strips
# of Online Pages*
Xtra Pages
Total Book Pages


DCF

121[/center]

122.5

37.5

160


NCftPB

180

197

47

244


W&XP

183

242

46

288


DStP

188

226

46

272


BRitF

274

320

48

368


Book 6

152

192

???

???


52 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

NOTE
* A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.