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GPuzzle
2014-04-04, 02:54 PM
I was toying with the concept of a defender|Sorcerer, if only for the fact that I always wanted to see the defensive buffs from the Dragon Sorcerer being taken to the Heavens.

So, I made the Dragon Knight. The Dragonborn is Baladin and a Dragon Sorcerer, using both the Paladin's attack drawing ability and durability and the Dragon Sorcerer's defensive buffs (for example, Dragonflame Mantle gives you a +1 power bonus to all defenses until the end of the next round and everyone that attacks you recieves 1d6+Str damage) and damage (Flame Spiral, for example). Since the Paladin defends without needing to use Immediate Reactions, the Dragon Sorcerer side of the equation stays pretty good.

Level 1:

Race: Dragonborn (PHB)
Class: Paladin|Sorcerer (PHB, PHB2, PHB3)

Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency
Sorcerer Damage Buff: Strength

Dragon Breath attribute: Strength
Dragon Breath damage type: Fire

Theme: Guardian (D399)
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (D366)

Attributes:
Strength: 18 (+4)
Constitution: 12 (+1)
Dexteritry: 10 (+0)
Intelligence: 8 (-1)
Wisdom: 12 (+1)
Charisma: 18 (+4)

Defences:
AC: 20-->10(base)+8(Plate)+2(Shield)
Fort: 14-->10(base)+4(Strength)
Refl: 13-->10(base)+2(Shield)+1(Hybrid Paladin)
Will: 15-->10(base)+4(Charisma)+1(Hybrid Sorcerer)

Health:
HP: 31-->7,5(Paladin)+6(Sorcerer)+18(Strength)
Bloodied: 15
Surge Value: 8
Surges p/day: 9-->5(Paladin)+3,5(Sorcerer)+1(Constitution)

Feats:
L1-Hybrid Talent (Paladin Armor Proficiency) (PHB3)

At-Will:
L1-Burning Spray (PHB2)
L1-Enfeebling Strike (PHB)

Encounter:
L1-Valorous Smite (DP)

Daily:
L1-Majestic Halo (DP)

Racial:
L1-Dragon Breath (PHB)

Theme:
L1-Guardian's Counter (D399)

Items:
Expected GP: 100 GP

Plate Armor (PHB) (50 GP)
Longsword (PHB) (15 GP)
Heavy Shield (PHB) (10 GP)
Adventurer's Standard Kit (PHB) (15 GP)

GP spent: 90 GP

Discussion:
Basically, Dragonborn Baladin with a close blast 3 power that deals some nice extra damage. Nothing much. Your AC is pretty good, you have some multimarking in Valorous Smite and Majestic Halo, a counter-attack in Guardian's Counter and a debuffing power in Enfeebling Strike besides that, which isn't bad in any way.


Level 11:

Race: Dragonborn (PHB)
Class: Paladin|Sorcerer (PHB, PHB2, PHB3)

Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency, Soul of the Sorcerer (Dragon Magic)
Sorcerer Damage Buff: Strength
Sorcerer Damager Resist: Fire

Dragon Breath attribute: Strength
Dragon Breath damage type: Fire

Theme: Guardian (D399)
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (D366)

Paragon Path: Paragon Hybrid (PHB3)

Attributes:
Strength: 21 (+5)
Constitution: 13 (+1)
Dexteritry: 11 (+0)
Intelligence: 9 (-1)
Wisdom: 13 (+1)
Charisma: 21 (+5)

Defences:
AC: 27-->10(base)+3(Hide)+2(Shield)+2(Enchantment)+5(Streng th)+5(level)
Fort: 24-->10(base)+5(Strength)+2(Item)+2(Expertise)+5(Level)
Refl: 22-->10(base)+2(Shield)+1(Hybrid Paladin)+2(Item)+2(Expertise)+5(level)
Will: 25-->10(base)+5(Charisma)+1(Hybrid Sorcerer)+2(Item)+2(Expertise)+5(level)

Health:
HP: 84-->7,5(Paladin)+6(Sorcerer)+21(Strength)+50(level)
Bloodied: 42
Surge Value: 22
Surges p/day: 9-->5(Paladin)+3,5(Sorcerer)+1(Constitution)

Feats:
L1-Hybrid Talent (Paladin Armor Proficiency) (PHB3)
L2-Draconic Challenge (DP)
L4-Mighty Challenge (DP)
L6-Devout Protector Expertise (D402)
L8-Mark of Warding (EPG)
L10-Improved Defenses (HotFL)
L11-Battle Awareness (MP)

At-Will:
L1-Burning Spray (PHB2)
L1-Enfeebling Strike (PHB)

Encounter:
L1-Valorous Smite (DP)
L3-Flame Spiral (PHB2)
L7-Price of Cowardice (DP)
L11-Explosive Pyre (PHB2)

Daily:
L1-Majestic Halo (DP)
L5-Glacial Armor (AP)
L9-Adamantine Echo (PHB2)

Utilities:
L2-Dragonflame Mantle (PHB2)
L6-Virtue (DP)
L10-Call of Challenge (DP)
L12-Sudden Scales (PHB2)
L16-Divine Aegis (DP)

Racial:
L1-Dragon Breath (PHB)

Theme:
L1-Guardian's Counter (D399)

Items:
Expected GP: 32,000 GP

+2 Lifeblood Hide Armor (PHB2) (5,000 GP)
+2 Inescapable Longsword (AV) (3,400 GP)
+2 Holy Symbol of Champion's Code (AV2) (3,400 GP)
+2 Steadfast Amulet (AV) (3,400 GP)
Strikebacks (AV) (5,000 GP)
Iron Armbands of Power (Heroic Tier) (1,800 GP)
Acrobat Boots (PHB) (520 GP)
Heavy Shield (PHB) (10 GP)
Adventurer's Standard Kit (PHB) (15 GP)

GP spent: 20745 GP

Discussion:
Well, what happens in this level basically is:

-You can resist 10 Fire, and pierce all fire resistances
-When you're bloodied, you get a +2 bonus to AC
-Adamantine Echo becomes Godlike, pop it with Call of Challenge and watch what happens.
-You get Explosive Pyre, which is a great way to single out an opponent.

Oh, and did I mention the nice Immediate Interrupt in Dragonflame Mantle? Besides, next level, Sudden Scales, which is a +9 bonus to all defenses versus an attack. If you're wondering about how many marks we can lay down, our Divine Challenge, despite being Hybrid, reaches 14 damage.

The items (which were my focus of optimization when the forums were down) are also really nice. The Strikebacks give us a very nice MBA-counter attack, which is something that we certainly could use.

So, this build has decent to high defenses, several comeback attacks and good multimarking and quite a lot of punishment.

I guess what's the weirdest thing is the fact that I'm a Paladin in Hide Armor. While it is certainly weird (I agree, it is very weird), it has a very simple explanation - Hide Armor Especialisation is easier to qualify for. And we need it.


Level 21:

Race: Dragonborn (PHB)
Class: Paladin|Sorcerer (PHB, PHB2, PHB3)

Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency, Soul of the Sorcerer (Dragon Magic)
Sorcerer Damage Buff: Strength
Sorcerer Damager Resist: Fire

Dragon Breath attribute: Strength
Dragon Breath damage type: Fire

Theme: Guardian (D399)
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (D366)

Paragon Path: Paragon Hybrid (PHB3)
Epic Destiny: Indomitable Champion (HotFL)

Attributes:
Strength: 26 (+8)
Constitution: 14 (+2)
Dexteritry: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 10 (+0)
Wisdom: 14 (+2)
Charisma: 26 (+8)

Defences:
AC: 39-->10(base)+4(Hide)+2(Shield)+4(Enchantment)+8(Streng th)+10(level)+1(Armor Especialisation)
Fort: 35-->10(base)+8(Strength)+4(Item)+3(Expertise)+10(Level )
Refl: 31-->10(base)+2(Shield)+1(Dexteritry)+1(Hybrid Paladin)+4(Item)+3(Expertise)+10(level)
Will: 36-->10(base)+8(Charisma)+1(Hybrid Sorcerer)+4(Item)+3(Expertise)+10(level)

Health:
HP: 149-->7,5(Paladin)+6(Sorcerer)+26(Strength)+100(level)+1 0(Brooch of Vitality)
Bloodied: 74
Surge Value: 39
Surges p/day: 10-->5(Paladin)+3,5(Sorcerer)+12(Constitution)

Feats:
L1-Hybrid Talent (Paladin Armor Proficiency) (PHB3)
L2-Draconic Challenge (DP)
L4-Mighty Challenge (DP)
L6-Devout Protector Expertise (D402)
L8-Mark of Warding (EPG)
L10-Improved Defenses (HotFL)
L11-Battle Awareness (MP)
L12-Psychic Lock (PHB)
L14-Hero's Poise (D388)
L16-Superior Will (HotFL)
L18-Armor Especialisation (Hide) (PHB)
L20-Improved Initative (PHB) (retrained to Superior Initiative (PHB3) at level 21)
L21-Weakening Challenge (D378)

At-Will:
L1-Burning Spray (PHB2)
L1-Enfeebling Strike (PHB)

Encounter:
L1-Castigating Strike (PHB)
L3-Flame Spiral (PHB2)
L13-Castigating Strike (DP)
L17-Mark of Terror (DP)

Daily:
L9-Adamantine Echo (PHB2)
L15-Lightning Daggers (AP)
L19-Knight's Defiance (DP)
L20-Corona of Blinding Radiance (PHB)

Utilities:
L2-Dragonflame Mantle (PHB2)
L6-Virtue (DP)
L10-Call of Challenge (DP)
L12-Sudden Scales (PHB2)
L16-Divine Aegis (DP)

Racial:
L1-Dragon Breath (PHB)

Theme:
L1-Guardian's Counter (D399)

Items:
Expected GP: 800,000 GP

+4 Lifeblood Darkhide Armor (PHB2) (125,000 GP)
+4 Githyanki Silver Longsword (AV) (105,000 GP)
+4 Holy Symbol of Champion's Code (AV2) (85,000 GP)
+4 Brooch of Vitality (AV) (125,000 GP)
Headband of Arkhosia (PHR: DB) (Paragon Tier) (21,000 GP)
Iron Armbands of Power (Paragon Tier) (45,000 GP)
Strikebacks (AV) (5,000 GP)
Acrobat Boots (PHB) (520 GP)
Heavy Shield (PHB) (10 GP)
Adventurer's Standard Kit (PHB) (15 GP)

GP spent: 511,545 GP

Discussion:
Good HP? Check. Good THP? Check. Good debuffing? Check. Good multimarking? Check. Good defensive bonuses? Check. Good save-ending? Check. Good damage? Somewhat, but yes. An all-rounded character with plenty of options and ways to make an enemy's life hell. Also, his Divine Challenge? 24 damage, weakens. Nice, uh?


Level 30:

Race: Dragonborn (PHB)
Class: Paladin|Sorcerer (PHB, PHB2, PHB3)

Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency, Soul of the Sorcerer (Dragon Magic)
Sorcerer Damage Buff: Strength
Sorcerer Damager Resist: Fire

Dragon Breath attribute: Strength
Dragon Breath damage type: Fire

Theme: Guardian (D399)
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (D366)

Paragon Path: Paragon Hybrid (PHB3)
Epic Destiny: Indomitable Champion (HotFL)

Attributes:
Strength: 29 (+9)
Constitution: 14 (+2)
Dexteritry: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 10 (+0)
Wisdom: 14 (+2)
Charisma: 29 (+9)

Defences:
AC: 39-->10(base)+4(Hide)+2(Shield)+6(Enchantment)+8(Streng th)+10(level)+1(Armor Especialisation)
Fort: 47-->10(base)+8(Strength)+6(Item)+3(Expertise)+15(Level )+1(Epic Destiny)+4(Epic Fortitude)
Refl: 43-->10(base)+2(Shield)+1(Dexteritry)+1(Hybrid Paladin)+6(Item)+3(Expertise)+15(level)+1(Epic Destiny)+4(Epic Reflexes)
Will: 48-->10(base)+8(Charisma)+1(Hybrid Sorcerer)+6(Item)+3(Expertise)+15(level)+1(Epic Destiny)+4(Epic Will)

Health:
HP: 226-->7,5(Paladin)+6(Sorcerer)+28(Strength)+145(level)+2 0(Brooch of Vitality)+20(Epic Destiny)
Bloodied: 113
Surge Value: 58
Surges p/day: 10-->5(Paladin)+3,5(Sorcerer)+2(Constitution)

Feats:
L1-Hybrid Talent (Paladin Armor Proficiency) (PHB3)
L2-Draconic Challenge (DP)
L4-Mighty Challenge (DP)
L6-Devout Protector Expertise (D402)
L8-Mark of Warding (EPG)
L10-Improved Defenses (HotFL)
L11-Battle Awareness (MP)
L12-Psychic Lock (PHB)
L14-Hero's Poise (D388)
L16-Superior Will (HotFL)
L18-Armor Especialisation (Hide) (PHB)
L20-Improved Initative (PHB) (retrained to Superior Initiative (PHB3) at level 21)
L21-Weakening Challenge (D378)
L22-Divine Mastery (DP)
L24-Dragon Knight (MP)
L26-Epic Reflexes (PHB2)
L28-Epic Fortitude (PHB2)
L30-Epic Will (PHB2)

At-Will:
L1-Burning Spray (PHB2)
L1-Enfeebling Strike (PHB)

Encounter:
L3-Flame Spiral (PHB2)
L13-Castigating Strike (DP)
L23-Demand Respect (DP)
L27-Stunning Smite (PHB)

Daily:
L9-Adamantine Echo (PHB2)
L19-Knight's Defiance (DP)
L25-Discipline the Unruly (DP)
L29-Wyrm Form (PHB2)

Utilities:
L2-Dragonflame Mantle (PHB2)
L6-Virtue (DP)
L10-Call of Challenge (DP)
L12-Sudden Scales (PHB2)
L16-Divine Aegis (DP)
L22-Platinum Scales (PHB2)

Racial:
L1-Dragon Breath (PHB)

Theme:
L1-Guardian's Counter (D399)

Items:
Expected GP: 14625000 GP

+6 Lifeblood Darkhide Armor (PHB2) (3,125,000 GP)
+6 Githyanki Silver Longsword (MOTP) (2,625,000 GP)
+6 Holy Symbol of Champion's Code (AV2) (2,125,000 GP)
+6 Brooch of Vitality (AV) (3,125,000 GP)
Headband of Arkhosia (PHR: DB) (Epic Tier) (525,000 GP)
Iron Armbands of Power (Epic Tier) (AV) (1,125,000 GP)
Strikebacks (AV) (5,000 GP)
Acrobat Boots (PHB) (520 GP)
Heavy Shield (PHB) (10 GP)
Adventurer's Standard Kit (PHB) (15 GP)

GP spent: 12,655,545 GP

Discussion:
And here it comes to the end. With good debuffing, heavy damage, being incredibly flavorful and plenty of ways to deal with enemies that go after you allies and you, this is by far one of my favourite builds. Besides, the level 29 daily is awesome.


Anyway, probably going to finish this build soon, but hopefully I can get some feedback on it.

EDIT: FINISHED IT!

GPuzzle
2014-04-04, 05:03 PM
And the whole build has been completeled. Feedback is requested.

Yakk
2014-04-05, 10:51 AM
Chain shirt? AIP saves you from having an expensive holy symbol (get a cheap one with a good property). No tattoo. What did you get from your multiclass? Just using a BA for your OA?

GPuzzle
2014-04-05, 01:04 PM
Chain shirt is a possibility, but I start every encounter with 15 THP due to Lifeblood Armor. Multiclass gives me Dragon Knight, or "regain Dragon Breath when first bloodied", which is a free close blast 3 Divine Sanction, beside the benefits. The Holy Symbol I'm using gives bonus damage to my Divine Sanctions and Challenges. No experience with tattoos, but I think Backlash Tattoo is a possibility.

Yakk
2014-04-05, 04:22 PM
No, elven chain shirt -- level 19 misc item for +2 to AC. And see if you can fix HBO so you can enfeeble on OAs.

GPuzzle
2014-04-05, 05:42 PM
Interesting...Enfeebling Strike on OAs is powerful, but I'm not sure if -1 AC is worth it, though. Might consider it.