Random Ages and Weights 3.5

[RLFHOG3]

So here i am creating a character and i decide, "you know what. Lets not make this guy extremely similar to my real world self. I'll randomly roll his height and weight."

So I roll his random height. Get a dude that stands 6' 1''. Pretty reasonable. My brother is that tall. So I roll his weight and get a grand total of Holy Living pelor WHAT!?!?! 840 lbs? Who weighs that much and has an active lifestyle? What's this guy eating? Entire encampments of orcs? Unless this dude's muscles' muscles' muscles have muscles, theres no way in the 9 hells a guy weighing 840 lbs is gonna go off on an adventure slaying dragons and looting castles. (add in the fact that this guy is wizard).

So now, I'm curious. What are the extremes of each randomly generated height and weight category and how in the heck do we fix this ridiculous system?
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/description.htm#heightAndWeight

Race/Gender - Base height/Weight - MaxHight/MinWeight - MinHight/MaxWeight
Human Male - 4' 10''/120lbs - 6' 6''/240lbs (Decent) - 5' 0''/960lbs (WTF?)
Human Female - 4' 5''/85lbs - 6' 1''/170lbs (A-O.K.) - 4' 7''/680lbs (Wat?)
Dwarven Male - 3' 9''/130lbs - 4' 5''/260lbs (Allright) - 3' 11''/1560lbs (Thats 1.56 tons btw.)
Dwarven Female - 3' 7''/100lbs - 4' 3''/200lbs (Good) - 3' 9''/1200lbs (Seriously are dwarves made of titanium or something?)
Elf Male - 4' 5''/85lbs - 5' 5''/85lbs (Typical stick) - 4' 7''/510lbs (Uh...)
Elf Female - 4' 5''/80lbs - 5' 5''/80lbs (Also a stick) - 4' 7''/480lbs (come on...)
Gnome Male - 3' 0''/40lbs - 3' 8''/40lbs (Gnomy) - 3' 2''/40lbs (Male Gnomes are 40 lbs. Period. No questions asked. Obey your lord and master Gary Gygax)
Gnome Female - 2' 10''/35lbs - 3' 6''/35lbs (Also Gnomy) - 3' 0''/35lbs (Female Gnomes are 35 lbs forever. Thus say-ith Gary Gygax.)
Half Elf Male - 4' 7''/100lbs - 5' 11''/200lbs (Ok, fine) - 4' 9''/800lbs (face palm)
Half Elf Female - 4' 5''/80lbs - 5' 9''/160lbs (Also fine) - 4' 7''/640lbs (dbl face palm)
Half Orc Male - 4' 10''/150lbs - 6' 10''/300lbs (oh boy...) - 5' 0''/1,800lbs (here comes the raging 2 ton half-orc barbarian)
Half Orc Female - 4' 5''/10lbs - 6' 5''/220lbs (*gulp*) - 4' 7''/1,320lbs (now thats a sexy lady...)
Halfling Male - 2' 8''/30lbs - 3' 4''''/30lbs (So cute) - 5' 0''/30lbs (remember what i said about gnomes? yeah, this again.)
Halfling Female - 2' 6''/25lbs - 3' 2''''/25lbs (So tiny) - 4' 7''/25lbs (remember what i said about gnomes? No questioning the all powerful Gygax.)

[NoACWarrior]

you are using it wrong...

You take the 2nd column and multiply it by the 4th column then add the result to the 3rd column.

Your height modifier in inches increased gets multiplied by the 4th column and then added to the 3rd column.

So your rolled Height Mod was what 6' 1" which was 15 better than the base height?
even if your rolled 2x 4s on your Weight Modifier, the result will be 120 lbs in addition to the base weight, so 240 lbs.

[WrathMage]

Yeah I thought that when I looked at it... Only to realize it's because its just badly worded. It looks like you multiply the Base Weight by the modifier you rolled. You don't. You take the base weight (120lb for Human Male) and then multiply the Height Modifier you rolled (2d10) by the Weight Modifier you roll (2d4) and add that number to the base weight for the character's starting weight.

Hope that makes sense? Or at least more sense than WOtC...

EDIT: Ninja'd

[NoACWarrior]

Yeah I thought that when I looked at it... Only to realize it's because its just badly worded. It looks like you multiply the Base Weight by the modifier you rolled. You don't. You take the base weight (120lb for Human Male) and then multiply the Height Modifier you rolled (2d10) by the Weight Modifier you roll (2d4) and add that number to the base weight for the character's starting weight.

Hope that makes sense? Or at least more sense than WOtC...

EDIT: Ninja'd

LOL! just about to say you are absolutely right - why WoTC decided to put the 4th column there I have no idea.

[WrathMage]

LOL! just about to say you are absolutely right - why WoTC decided to put the 4th column there I have no idea.

Yes it's a pretty strange decision. It has caused no end of confusion for new players of mine over the years. One would naturally work across the table, but then you get the crazy weights!

Glad it's not just me that thought it was an odd lay out.

[RLFHOG3]

that makes even less logic.... Now i'm really confused.

wheres it even say all that?

Edit: found it. Maybe a bit of reading would have saved me some time.:P

[Vertharrad]

Oh no if you find that unrealistic try this...
My elven male from 3.5 I crossed over to PF and had to readjust height and weight - he went from 5' 110 lbs(not too bad) to 6'3" 133lbs...I was 6' 152 lbs when I went into the U.S. Army infantry and I was pretty skinny, this elf must be bone showing skinny!

[John Longarrow]

Vertharrad,
Don't worry, I showed up at Basic 6', 138. I came back 6' 155 though...