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atemu1234
2014-04-16, 06:45 PM
Hi, I'm writing up a couple campaigns using encounters from Bestiary II, and I'm trying to figure out how to convert the skills. Specifically, does each one have a counterpart in the 3.5 system, and if so, what? I figured I'd also ask about 3e, just in case.

OldTrees1
2014-04-16, 06:57 PM
3E, 3.5 and Pathfinder almost perfectly map to each other
The 3.5 <-> Pathfinder exceptions are:
Concentration[3.5 skill] <-> Caster level check[Pathfinder]
Fly[Pathfinder skill] <-> Manueverability / Reflex saves[3.5]
Scry[3E] & Spell <-> Spells[3.5/Pathfinder]
Use Rope[3E/3.5] <-> Tie Up under grapple[Pathfinder]

generating mapping ...
Alchemy(3E) <-> Craft Alchemy(3.5/Pathfinder)
Acrobatics(Pathfinder) -> Balance, Jump, & Tumble (3E/3.5)
Animal Empthy(3E) -> Handle Animal(3.5/Pathfinder)
Appraise(all)
Balance(3E/3.5) -> Acrobatics(Pathfinder)
Bluff(all)
Climb(all)
Concentration(3E/3.5) <-> Concentration check (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Concentration)(Pathfinder)
Craft Alchemy(3.5/Pathfinder) <-> Alchemy(3E)
Craft(all)
Decipher Script(3E/3.5) -> Linguistics(Pathfinder)
Diplomacy(all)
Disable Device(all)
Disguise(all)
Escape Artist(all)
Fly(Pathfinder) -> Nothing
Forgery(3E/3.5) -> Lingustics(Pathfinder)
Gather Information(3E/3.5) -> Diplomacy(Pathfinder)
Handle Animal(all)
Heal(all)
Hide(3E/3.5) -> Stealth(Pathfinder)
Innuendo(3E) -> Bluff(3.5 & Pathfinder)
Intimidate(all)
Intuit Direction(3E) -> Knowledge Nature(3.5/Pathfinder)
Jump(3E/3.5) -> Acrobatics(Pathfinder)
Knowledge Nature (3.5/Pathfinder) -> Intuit Direction & Knowledge Nature (3E)
Linguistics(Pathfinder) -> Decipher Script, Forgery, & Speak Language
Listen(3E/3.5) -> Perception(Pathfinder)
Move Silently(3E/3.5) -> Stealth(Pathfinder)
Open Lock(3E/3.5) -> Disable Device(Pathfinder)
Perception(Pathfinder) -> Listen, Search, & Spot(3.5) -> Listen, Read Lips, Search, & Spot(3E)
Perform(all)
Pick Pocket(3E) -> Sleight of Hand(3.5/Pathfinder)
Profession(all)
Read Lips(3E) -> Spot(3.5) -> Perception(Pathfinder)
Ride(all)
Scry(3E) -> Scrying Spells(3.5/Pathfinder)
Search(3E/3.5) -> Perception(Pathfinder)
Sense Motive(all)
Speak Language(3E/3.5) -> Linguistics(Pathfinder)
Spellcraft(all)
Spot(3.5) -> Spot(3E) & Read Lips(3E) -> Perception(Pathfinder)
Stealth(Pathfiner) -> Hide and Move Silently (3E/3.5)
Survival(3.5) -> Wilderness Lore(3E)
Swim(all)
Tumble(3E/3.5) -> Acrobatics(Pathfinder)
Use Magic Device(all)
Use Rope(3E/3.5) <-> Tie Up option under Grapple(Pathfinder)
Wilderness Lore(3E) -> Survival(3.5/Pathfinder)

jaydubs
2014-04-16, 07:07 PM
Pathfinder -> 3.5

Acrobatics - Jump, Tumble, and Balance
Appraise - Appraise
Bluff - Bluff
Climb - Climb
Craft - Craft
Diplomacy - Diplomacy and Gather Information
Disable Device - Open Locks and Disable Device
Disguise - Disguise
Escape Artist - Escape Artist
Handle Animal - Handle Animal
Heal - Heal
Intimidate - Intimidate
Knowledge - All equivalent, except PF Engineering becomes Architecture and Engineering
Linguistics - Speak Language and Forgery
Perception - Spot and Listen
Perform - Perform
Profession - Profession
Ride - Ride
Sense Motive - Sense Motive
Sleight of Hand - Sleight of Hand
Spellcraft - Spellcraft
Stealth - Move Silently and Hide
Survival - Survival
Swim - Swim
Use Magic Device - Use Magic Device

No equivalent skills:
-3.5 has use rope, which is based on CMB in PF.
-3.5 has concentration, which is caster level + casting characteristic bonus in PF.
-PF has fly, which isn't necessary in 3.5.

There might be some I'm missing. As you can see, PF condensed a lot of skills.

atemu1234
2014-04-16, 07:17 PM
Thanks, but I'm also making some 3e prestige classes into 3.5 versions if there aren't already. So I do need the "near perfect" mapping for 3e to 3.5 laid out.

OldTrees1
2014-04-16, 07:37 PM
Mapping completed above.
Turns out 3E does not have perfect mapping to 3.5. However the exception is noted above.

Vhaidara
2014-04-16, 09:18 PM
Jump also got rolled into Acrobatics.