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mabriss lethe
2014-04-17, 03:46 PM
It's pretty common knowledge that a Pyrokineticist's Fire Lash ability is a bit of an oddball, mostly due to this wording (emphasis mine).


A pyro can take Weapon Focus and Weapon Specialization (if she otherwise meets the prerequisites) in conjunction with the fire lash, as well as any feats that apply to the use of a standard whip.

That's kind of a big bag of worms when you get to some feats. It could easily be argued that a psychic warrior/pyro couldn't use the Graft Weapon power with fire lash because the lash isn't a weapon. What if, for example, a Wilder/Pyro grabs Graft weapon using Expanded Knowledge? By the criteria included above, it should be a viable combo now. The ability comes from a feat and is usable in conjunction with a standard whip. You can now deliver touch attack powers/spells via the fire lash.

Barring common sense, is there a RAW reason this doesn't work?

Coidzor
2014-04-17, 04:14 PM
It's pretty common knowledge that a Pyrokineticist's Fire Lash ability is a bit of an oddball, mostly due to this wording (emphasis mine).



That's kind of a big bag of worms when you get to some feats. It could easily be argued that a psychic warrior/pyro couldn't use the Graft Weapon power with fire lash because the lash isn't a weapon. What if, for example, a Wilder/Pyro grabs Graft weapon using Expanded Knowledge? By the criteria included above, it should be a viable combo now. The ability comes from a feat and is usable in conjunction with a standard whip. You can now deliver touch attack powers/spells via the fire lash.

Barring common sense, is there a RAW reason this doesn't work?

Order of operations. The feat doesn't give you the ability to use graft weapon on fire lash. The feat just gives you the power graft weapon.

Vaz
2014-04-17, 04:30 PM
1) Fire Lash isn't a weapon, it's a Psi-like Ability
2) Graft Weapon isn't a feat.
3) If aside from common sense, you include none-RAW, then nothing. It's pretty cool, and a pretty underpowered class. Knock yourself out. Try combining it with that CPsi class that allows you to make attacks against adjacent foes.