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atemu1234
2014-04-25, 06:37 PM
Anything in particular?

eggynack
2014-04-25, 06:40 PM
Well, if you mean "fighter" generally, you can always run a deepstone sentinel (ToB, 105), which is basically the fixed dwarven defender. It's pretty nifty.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2014-04-25, 06:50 PM
Don't even consider using Dwarven Defender, I posted this a while back as a good explanation as to why:

Dwarven Defenders are only good in large numbers, fighting in the tunnels of their underground homes. They form an insurmountable wall of dwarves that blocks invaders from advancing any further, and outlast their foes until reinforcements arrive. Too many times a solitary dwarven defender has tried to take on adversaries alone, and his opponents easily rushed past him to murder those he was sworn to protect. For this reason, any dwarf who joins the Order of the Defenders is forbidden to go adventuring without at least three other dwarven defenders accompanying him. Luckily, there are a lot of dwarven defenders in a given community, as any who wish to join the elite Order of the Sentinels and fails their tests goes on to join the Order of the Defenders. The Order of the Sentinels trains its members as Deepstone Sentinels, capable warriors who often go in to become great adventurers. Members of the Order of the Defenders get stuck with menial guard duty until they're too old to fight.

Callin
2014-04-25, 07:12 PM
HAHAHA Thats rich! I love that fluff.


Edit for On Topic Post- What are you trying to do with said Dwarf?

Blackhawk748
2014-04-25, 07:29 PM
Dwarven Defenders are pretty sweet when you put one in a doorway, in other uses...... not so much. I would check Races of Stone as it has pretty sweet PrCs.

Though in defense of the Dwarven Defender it works pretty well when you use Knight as the base instead of Fighter.

Windstorm
2014-04-25, 07:51 PM
if you have 1 level of fighter, multiclass wizard, take runesmith prc followed by abjurant champion and never look back.

if you actually want to stay martial, multiclass into warblade and then go bloodstorm blade, throwing hammers and going thor on people.

Seerow
2014-04-25, 07:52 PM
Both Battlesmith and Deepwarden make pretty good dips for a dwarf. Battlesmith nets you Wis to damage (note: exclusive to Warhammer, may not be as nice), Deepwarden gets con to AC (note: It's debatable whether it follows max dex restrictions or not. Ask your DM).


Otherwise, go for the same sorts of things you'd go for with any Fighter. aka get out asap. Dip into Barbarian, ToB classes, Incarnum/Magic/Psionics with Gish prestiges, and so on.

StreamOfTheSky
2014-04-25, 10:04 PM
Anything in particular?

Whichever one has the earliest entry requirements.

deuxhero
2014-04-25, 10:29 PM
Is a Dwarf taking Stoneblessed (Dwarf) (which is legal for some reason) really better than a straight Fighter (does it even stack?)? (Hell: Is Stoneblessed worth taking for anything but the racial emulation thing if you aren't just trying to max your con score?)

I VERY sure Fighter is better than Master Inquisitive (earliest non-NPC non-caster prc aside from stoneblessed open to non-drow), the prestige class where the main feature is getting friends you could write into your backstory anyways.

Warlocknthewind
2014-04-25, 10:47 PM
Exotic Weapon Master makes you look at the Urgrosh in a different way. Flurry, x2 are bonus and free trip are nifty, and fightery.

Red Fel
2014-04-25, 10:53 PM
Look at your Dwarf. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look back at your Dwarf. He's not an Ironsoul Forgemaster, but with a dip into Incarnate he could be.

Look at your shield. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look at your shield again. It now grants energy resistance. Look at your armor. It now grants DR/--. Look at your weapon. It now gets an insight bonus to damage, and dazes living opponents.

Look at your party. They're naked. Now look at your Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now he has Craft Magic Arms and Armor, as a caster of triple his Ironsoul Forgemaster level. Look back at your party. They're heavily armed and extremely violent. They love your Dwarf for assembling their weapons of mass destruction.

Ironsoul Forgemaster is on a horse.

Callin
2014-04-25, 10:57 PM
Look at your Dwarf. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look back at your Dwarf. He's not an Ironsoul Forgemaster, but with a dip into Incarnate he could be.

Look at your shield. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look at your shield again. It now grants energy resistance. Look at your armor. It now grants DR/--. Look at your weapon. It now gets an insight bonus to damage, and dazes living opponents.

Look at your party. They're naked. Now look at your Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now he has Craft Magic Arms and Armor, as a caster of triple his Ironsoul Forgemaster level. Look back at your party. They're heavily armed and extremely violent. They love your Dwarf for assembling their weapons of mass destruction.

Ironsoul Forgemaster is on a horse.


Best thing I have read in a very long time

Muggins
2014-04-25, 11:24 PM
if you have 1 level of fighter, multiclass wizard, take runesmith prc followed by abjurant champion and never look back.
Why would you take levels in the armour-casting Runesmith when the main focus of the Abjurant Champion is to cast spells like mage armour and shield? :smallconfused:


if you actually want to stay martial, multiclass into warblade and then go bloodstorm blade, throwing hammers and going thor on people.
If you can get some divine spellcasting, the Hammer of Moradin (https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040305a) PrC will do the same. It's also worth taking more than 2-4 levels of.

deuxhero
2014-04-26, 02:27 AM
Because Mage Armor, for some stupid reason, is conjuration.

Ravens_cry
2014-04-26, 02:35 AM
Look at your Dwarf. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look back at your Dwarf. He's not an Ironsoul Forgemaster, but with a dip into Incarnate he could be.

Look at your shield. Now look at Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now look at your shield again. It now grants energy resistance. Look at your armor. It now grants DR/--. Look at your weapon. It now gets an insight bonus to damage, and dazes living opponents.

Look at your party. They're naked. Now look at your Ironsoul Forgemaster. Now he has Craft Magic Arms and Armor, as a caster of triple his Ironsoul Forgemaster level. Look back at your party. They're heavily armed and extremely violent. They love your Dwarf for assembling their weapons of mass destruction.

Ironsoul Forgemaster is on a horse.
I do not give cookies often, but when I do, you get one for this. Marvellous, simply marvellous. :smallamused:

Windstorm
2014-04-26, 02:46 AM
Because Mage Armor, for some stupid reason, is conjuration.

this and because BaB and good hit die for no appreciable downside.

edit: there is an additional, much simpler reason: inside an AMF, you are still a dwarf in armor with an axe. they are a dude in a bathrobe.

TeslaJr
2014-04-26, 03:15 AM
Why would you take levels in the armour-casting Runesmith when the main focus of the Abjurant Champion is to cast spells like mage armour and shield? :smallconfused:


Because it's impossible to dispel armor? Because you can't enchant Mage Armor or Shield? Because you can use both? Also, Runesmith has some pretty sweet abilities aside from casting in armor.