Stats for a Rodent?

[CrazyYanmega]

Does anyone have the stats for a mouse? The "Fighter Hate" forum gave me a great idea to make an Awakened Mouse Fighter. I wanted to know the possible ability modifiers and/or stats for a mouse.

Yes, I am being entirely serious.

[Troacctid]

Is a rat close enough? (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/rat.htm)

[Ellowryn]

Anthropomorphic Rat from Savage Species, yes i know its a rat and not a mouse but its close enough, is 0 Hd, 0 LA, -6 Str, +2 Dex, +4 Wis, -4 Cha, 15ft move speed, small size, plus the various other abilities of the rat.

[CrazyYanmega]

Rat won't really do, and Anthropomorphic is right out. Sorry.

[Sir Chuckles]

Your best bet is to take the rat and modify it to fit "mouse".

Let's see...
Rats are slightly larger than mice.
Mice have a smaller bite radius.
Mice live shorter life spans.
Rats have larger tails.
Mice have larger eyes.
Rats burrow.

So, ultimately, it's some finagling with racial bonuses and the like.

Out of curiosity, what about the Fighter Hate thread made you want to do this?

[CrazyYanmega]

Someone mentioned Martin the Warrior. I HAD to do it.

I was thinking mice are Fine sized, as that is the size listed for Sparrow in Oriental Adventures, and sparrows are about the same size as mice.

[Sir Chuckles]

Someone mentioned Martin the Warrior. I HAD to do it.

I was thinking mice are Fine sized, as that is the size listed for Sparrow in Oriental Adventures, and sparrows are about the same size as mice.

Mice are literally listed as "sparrow sized" in some books.

[CrazyYanmega]

Hmmm, how about a sparrow without flight?

[Karmea]

You might want to look into the 3rd party supplement, Noble Wild. It has all sorts of stuff about playing intelligent animals (amongst them, the mouse).

The mouse race in the book is basically a modified awakened rat minus the racial HD and swim speed, diminutive size, 1 str, +4 dex, +4 cha, and 1hp bite.

[ShurikVch]

From the old article in Dragon #280, mouse was something like this:

Size/Type: Fine Animal
Hit Dice: ¼ d8 (1 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 15 ft. (3 squares), climb 15 ft.
Armor Class: 20 (+8 size, +2 Dex), touch 20, flat-footed 18
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-16
Attack: —
Space/Reach: ½ ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Scent
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +1
Abilities: Str 2, Dex 14, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 3
Skills: Hide +14, Move Silently +6, Swim +10