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geonova
2014-04-30, 02:27 PM
why do so many creatures, including monster spiders, lack spider climb? i know that a climb speed does similar, but it doesn't allow creatures to move along the ceiling like spider climb. and what creature(s) have spider climb at the lowest CR?

John Longarrow
2014-04-30, 03:30 PM
Warlock 1???

For most creatures, climb speed = spider climb. You just need to set a climb DC for ceiling that makes sense.

Know(Nothing)
2014-04-30, 03:53 PM
Also, if I recall correctly, having a natural climb speed allows you to take 10's on climbing, even when being attacked or under pressure, AND gives a +8 racial bonus to climb. Assuming at least 14 Strength(and/or Dex in a Monsterous Spider's case) and a few ranks in Climb, a creature is guaranteed to make the climb check on a ceiling that has "handholds but no footholds," which likely means any ceiling with cracks, roots, or other naturally occurring features. In a creature's natural environment these features are probably pretty common.

It is weird that there needs to be actual numbers behind that, where Spider Climb doesn't-- but then again, magic is magic.