Banaticus
2014-05-07, 03:39 AM
Half-orc
Inquisitor (Conversion inquisition) 2 - Wis to Intimidate
Cavalier (Order of the Cockatrice) 2 - Dazzling Display as bonus feat, intimidate in 30' around me
Rogue (Thug) 2 for +1 round shaken (and if I beat DC by 15 or more they're frightened for 1 round)
+ the rogue talent to show my tattoos and get +2 bonus
Aldori Swordlord 2 to get Dex damage with my weapon and more intimidate from possible bonus feats.
So then is it worth it to take fighter levels to get more bonus feats, so I can get more of a competence bonus from having certain feats (from Aldori Swordlord) or should I just stick with either Inquisitor or Swordlord?
At 8th level, I'd have the following intimidate bonus:
8 ranks
3 class skill bonus
5 Wis
1 trait
1 from 2 levels of inquisitor via stern gaze class feature
1 racial class bonus (two levels of inquisitor)
2 racial bonus from being a half-orc
1 from 2 levels of aldori swordlord
2 battle mask
5 magical item skill bonus
2 rogue talent to show tattoos
+31 skill bonus
Presuming a 10 on the die, that's an average result of 41. Worst case, DC at level 8 would probably be for a 12 HD creature that's bigger than me (+4 bonus to DC), that has a Wis of 20, for a DC of 31, so I beat the DC by 10 on average. This isn't enough to make the creature frightened of me, even with the +1 round shaken from rogue, it's only shaken for 3 rounds and isn't running. I need something else to boost my result even higher. Sure, I could maybe get a higher magical skill intimidate skill item (I plan on enchanting the Battle Mask that normally gives a +2 bonus to give a much higher bonus). My feats are locked up qualifying for Aldori Swordlord. Any suggestions?
With 4 more levels of fighter, I could pick 3 bonus feats plus my 9th level and 12th level feats, for a +5 bonus to Intimidate (Aldori Swordlord, 2nd level). Meanwhile, creatures are likely increasing their HD by 4 levels -- I barely pulled ahead by one point. After this I could go back to Inquisitor and with the orc racial bonus I'd at least keep pace with HD as I leveled. And even though I could get most things to have a -2 penalty on attacks, many things to run in fear for 1 round, I still don't see a way to panic anyone (make the drop what they're holding when they run) or get any additional bonuses other than what's basically +2 to my AC.
I have a trait that lets me intimidate vermin and animals, which is kind of strange because I thought intimidate just worked on "opponents". Is there anything else that I should watch for, anything else that intimidate doesn't work on (perhaps mindless creatures)? If so, is there a way to also affect them or is this something I can ignore?
Inquisitor (Conversion inquisition) 2 - Wis to Intimidate
Cavalier (Order of the Cockatrice) 2 - Dazzling Display as bonus feat, intimidate in 30' around me
Rogue (Thug) 2 for +1 round shaken (and if I beat DC by 15 or more they're frightened for 1 round)
+ the rogue talent to show my tattoos and get +2 bonus
Aldori Swordlord 2 to get Dex damage with my weapon and more intimidate from possible bonus feats.
So then is it worth it to take fighter levels to get more bonus feats, so I can get more of a competence bonus from having certain feats (from Aldori Swordlord) or should I just stick with either Inquisitor or Swordlord?
At 8th level, I'd have the following intimidate bonus:
8 ranks
3 class skill bonus
5 Wis
1 trait
1 from 2 levels of inquisitor via stern gaze class feature
1 racial class bonus (two levels of inquisitor)
2 racial bonus from being a half-orc
1 from 2 levels of aldori swordlord
2 battle mask
5 magical item skill bonus
2 rogue talent to show tattoos
+31 skill bonus
Presuming a 10 on the die, that's an average result of 41. Worst case, DC at level 8 would probably be for a 12 HD creature that's bigger than me (+4 bonus to DC), that has a Wis of 20, for a DC of 31, so I beat the DC by 10 on average. This isn't enough to make the creature frightened of me, even with the +1 round shaken from rogue, it's only shaken for 3 rounds and isn't running. I need something else to boost my result even higher. Sure, I could maybe get a higher magical skill intimidate skill item (I plan on enchanting the Battle Mask that normally gives a +2 bonus to give a much higher bonus). My feats are locked up qualifying for Aldori Swordlord. Any suggestions?
With 4 more levels of fighter, I could pick 3 bonus feats plus my 9th level and 12th level feats, for a +5 bonus to Intimidate (Aldori Swordlord, 2nd level). Meanwhile, creatures are likely increasing their HD by 4 levels -- I barely pulled ahead by one point. After this I could go back to Inquisitor and with the orc racial bonus I'd at least keep pace with HD as I leveled. And even though I could get most things to have a -2 penalty on attacks, many things to run in fear for 1 round, I still don't see a way to panic anyone (make the drop what they're holding when they run) or get any additional bonuses other than what's basically +2 to my AC.
I have a trait that lets me intimidate vermin and animals, which is kind of strange because I thought intimidate just worked on "opponents". Is there anything else that I should watch for, anything else that intimidate doesn't work on (perhaps mindless creatures)? If so, is there a way to also affect them or is this something I can ignore?