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ZhanStrider
2014-05-11, 09:41 PM
Hey playgrounders!

Me and my DM are working on an expanded list of familiars, and wondered if anyone had any thoughts as to what the bonuses they grant should be.

We're adding
Fox
Falcon
Badger
Mole
Piranha

Gildedragon
2014-05-11, 09:45 PM
Fox +2 to Bluff
Falcon As hawk
Badger Honey or standard? If honey: Immunity to fear Normal: dunno
Mole 15' tremorsense
Piranha 1d4 bite attack

Flickerdart
2014-05-11, 09:54 PM
Badger Honey or standard? If honey: Immunity to fear Normal: dunno
Mole 15' tremorsense
Piranha 1d4 bite attack
These bonuses are completely disproportionate for familiars.

Gildedragon
2014-05-11, 10:00 PM
These bonuses are completely disproportionate for familiars.

hmmm you're right

Mole +2 spot and search in total darkness
Piranha +2 to confirm critical hits? +1 to confirm critical hits? with piercing or slashing weapons

Honey badger bonus makes sense to me; albeit it is more like you are a honey badger's familiar than the other way around.

normal badger would probably be +1 to fort saves?

Mountain
2014-05-11, 10:18 PM
Fox: +3 to hide when outdoors
Falcon: +3 to Spot in bright light
Badger: +3 to survival
Mole: +3 to search
Piranha: +2 to confirm criticals (I like that one)

Honey Badger: Just take what you want.

Bullet06320
2014-05-11, 11:41 PM
Piranha? do you carry it around in a bag like a gold fish?
or maybe in a fishbowl on a tensor floating disk following you?

ZhanStrider
2014-05-12, 08:38 AM
Piranha? do you carry it around in a bag like a gold fish?
or maybe in a fishbowl on a tensor floating disk following you?

it has a personal bubble of water that rolls like a hamster ball. It's for a pirate class he made.

Umbranar
2014-05-12, 09:04 AM
it has a personal bubble of water that rolls like a hamster ball. It's for a pirate class he made.

lol wut? thats awesome. Beware the hamster ball piranha biting your ankles off :smallbiggrin:

Fouredged Sword
2014-05-12, 10:10 AM
Piranha, +4 to initiative as everyone stops and stares at it rolling around in it's little ball of water.

Gildedragon
2014-05-12, 10:51 AM
Wait: pirate class and not a parot familiar?!
Also the idea of the piranha rolling around is hillarious

Bronk
2014-05-12, 11:07 AM
There was a write-up in Dragon 291 for fox familiars... they had stats for it and gave the master a +2 to reflex saves.

Cruiser1
2014-05-12, 11:12 AM
Wait: pirate class and not a parot familiar?!
Note that Parrot familiars are already in the game (Storm p52) and are the same as a Raven (speak 1 language, and give master +3 to Appraise).

Crake
2014-05-12, 11:30 AM
Hey playgrounders!

Me and my DM are working on an expanded list of familiars, and wondered if anyone had any thoughts as to what the bonuses they grant should be.

We're adding
Fox
Falcon
Badger
Mole
Piranha

According to the complete list of familiars these already have bonuses assigned to them
Fox (arctic fox, frostburn): +3 to move silently
Falcon: As Hawk (+3 to spot in well lit areas)
Badger: Dragon Magazine 352, +3 to knowledge (arcana)

Gildedragon
2014-05-12, 11:32 AM
Note that Parrot familiars are already in the game (Storm p52) and are the same as a Raven (speak 1 language, and give master +3 to Appraise).

Yeah but foxes already exist as well. And familiars can have multiple effects (monkeys, for example, offer two different bonuses)

Mountain
2014-05-12, 02:06 PM
Is there a complete list of familiars and their bonuses? And if not, what books are they all in?

123456789blaaa
2014-05-12, 02:12 PM
Is there a complete list of familiars and their bonuses? And if not, what books are they all in?


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2014-05-12, 02:25 PM
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