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Soarel
2014-05-13, 02:38 PM
I really enjoy the fluff for the 4th edition Avenger class, but really can't stand 4e. Here I'm planning to sorta-convert, sorta-remake the class in 3.5/pathfinder. The only attempts to develop one have been half-assed prestige classes with a heavily defensive focus.

It's sort of a rogue/paladin hybrid with a focus on offense and a weakness in defense. 4e Avengers have a smite evil-like skill that lets them focus their attacks on a single enemy per encounter and gain buffs for it. I'd like to rework this for 3.5 to make the class a bit stronger. They wear light armor and can use all martial weapons (with a bonus for using two handed weapons).

So…any idea for a 3.5 Avenger conversion?

Klarth
2014-05-13, 03:25 PM
Have a look at the Pathfinder base class, the Inquisitor:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/inquisitor

3/4 BAB, 6/9 divine spells, 6+int skills. Can imbue their weapon with a selective Bane enchantment.

Soarel
2014-05-13, 03:29 PM
Have a look at the Pathfinder base class, the Inquisitor:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/inquisitor

3/4 BAB, 6/9 divine spells, 6+int skills. Can imbue their weapon with a selective Bane enchantment.

I already know about them. Nah, not what I'm looking for. Inquisitors are a ranged focused class (Avenger is melee focused) and they cast divine spells. I don't want Avenger to be a spellcasting class.

Zelkon
2014-05-13, 05:26 PM
Oath of Enmity is probably the defining feature, so as long as you have that, you're pretty much set.

Xefas
2014-05-13, 05:43 PM
Here are two other (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?251981-3-5-Attempt-to-Homebrew-a-Class-Adapting-4e-Avenger-to-3-5-WIP) attempts from (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?172504-The-Avenger-3-5-Base-Class-Divine-Skillmonkey) these boards. If they're not what you want, they might at least give you ideas.

DeAnno
2014-05-15, 05:14 AM
This has inspired me to write up a 3.5e version of the Avenger. Not sure when it'll be done, but features so far include Oaths, Censures, and "half casting" from Domains.

Edit: And here it is (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?348997-The-Avenger-%28Inspired-by-4e-Class%29&p=17473195#post17473195)