Spore
2014-05-18, 10:27 PM
The RAW reads:
Each oracle must choose from among the following mysteries. Unless otherwise noted, the DC to save against these revelations is equal to 10 + 1/2 the oracle's level + the oracle's Charisma modifier. Spells marked with an asterisk (*) appear in Chapter 5 of this book.
Soul Siphon (Su): As a ranged touch attack, you can unleash a ray that causes a target to gain one negative level. The ray has a range of 30 feet. This negative level lasts for a number of minutes equal to your Charisma modifier. Whenever this ability gives a target a negative level, you heal a number of hit points equal to your oracle level. You can use this ability once per day, plus one additional time at 11th level and every four levels thereafter. You must be at least 7th level to select this revelation.
By RAW the DC for Soul Siphon from the Bones Oracle is 1/2 level + Charisma. But which save does it attack if it does attack one? I am fine with the revelation not attacking a save at all (since it's a ranged touch attack and only useable twice/day and I will get them to fail the save with a dual cursed oracle anyhow).
I can see two major arguments here:
1) No save because there is no targetted save described.
2) Fortitude save because any save in the necromantic spectrum attacks Fort. Still, some attack Will, so can I choose now?
3) Any rules lingo buried deep in the CRB which makes my thread trivial.
Each oracle must choose from among the following mysteries. Unless otherwise noted, the DC to save against these revelations is equal to 10 + 1/2 the oracle's level + the oracle's Charisma modifier. Spells marked with an asterisk (*) appear in Chapter 5 of this book.
Soul Siphon (Su): As a ranged touch attack, you can unleash a ray that causes a target to gain one negative level. The ray has a range of 30 feet. This negative level lasts for a number of minutes equal to your Charisma modifier. Whenever this ability gives a target a negative level, you heal a number of hit points equal to your oracle level. You can use this ability once per day, plus one additional time at 11th level and every four levels thereafter. You must be at least 7th level to select this revelation.
By RAW the DC for Soul Siphon from the Bones Oracle is 1/2 level + Charisma. But which save does it attack if it does attack one? I am fine with the revelation not attacking a save at all (since it's a ranged touch attack and only useable twice/day and I will get them to fail the save with a dual cursed oracle anyhow).
I can see two major arguments here:
1) No save because there is no targetted save described.
2) Fortitude save because any save in the necromantic spectrum attacks Fort. Still, some attack Will, so can I choose now?
3) Any rules lingo buried deep in the CRB which makes my thread trivial.