Thrair
2014-05-28, 04:38 AM
GM of a game I'm playing in is planning a sort of special event session. Everyone's going to roll up a 20th-level character and a basic guide for playing it, which is then going to be thrown in a pot and handed out to everyone at random. I was bouncing some ideas around for an Oracle, and while considering Spell Perfection and Metamagic feats, noticed that the rules don't say what a spell with a Swift Action ends up as, after metamagic is applied to it.
Sorcerers and Bards: Sorcerers and bards choose spells as they cast them. They can choose when they cast their spells whether to apply their metamagic feats to improve them. As with other spellcasters, the improved spell uses up a higher-level spell slot. Because the sorcerer or bard has not prepared the spell in a metamagic form in advance, he must apply the metamagic feat on the spot. Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell. If the spell's normal casting time is a standard action, casting a metamagic version is a full-round action for a sorcerer or bard. (This isn't the same as a 1-round casting time.) The only exception is for spells modified by the Quicken Spell metamagic feat, which can be cast as normal using the feat.
For a spell with a longer casting time, it takes an extra full-round action to cast the spell.
Nowhere does it say anything about Swift-Action spells like Cold Ice Strike (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/cold-ice-strike). So, wondering about it, I tried looking it up, and couldn't fine an answer.
This (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o5aj?Cold-Ice-Strike-and-Metamagic-feats-for) thread on the paizo boards asks it, and lists is as "5 people marked this as FAQ candidate. Answered in the errata.", but I couldn't find it in the Errata for either Ultimate Magic or the Core Rulebook.
Anyone able to point me to said errata, or any official word on this?
Sorcerers and Bards: Sorcerers and bards choose spells as they cast them. They can choose when they cast their spells whether to apply their metamagic feats to improve them. As with other spellcasters, the improved spell uses up a higher-level spell slot. Because the sorcerer or bard has not prepared the spell in a metamagic form in advance, he must apply the metamagic feat on the spot. Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell. If the spell's normal casting time is a standard action, casting a metamagic version is a full-round action for a sorcerer or bard. (This isn't the same as a 1-round casting time.) The only exception is for spells modified by the Quicken Spell metamagic feat, which can be cast as normal using the feat.
For a spell with a longer casting time, it takes an extra full-round action to cast the spell.
Nowhere does it say anything about Swift-Action spells like Cold Ice Strike (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/cold-ice-strike). So, wondering about it, I tried looking it up, and couldn't fine an answer.
This (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o5aj?Cold-Ice-Strike-and-Metamagic-feats-for) thread on the paizo boards asks it, and lists is as "5 people marked this as FAQ candidate. Answered in the errata.", but I couldn't find it in the Errata for either Ultimate Magic or the Core Rulebook.
Anyone able to point me to said errata, or any official word on this?