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2014-06-02, 10:08 AM
Shadowcaster Multiclassing in Pathfinder

Given Peacenlove's update of the shadowcaster to pathfinder, I felt it only appropriate to update the rules of A Creeping Darkness to pathfinder.

When a multiclass Arcanist, Psychic, Sorcerer, Witch, or Wizard gains a new Shadowcaster level, she can choose to sacrifice a preexisting level of Arcanist, Psychic, Sorcerer, Witch, or Wizard, in exchange for an additional Shadowcaster level. A character can exchange only one such level at a time.
When "swapping" levels, make the following changes:

When exchanging Sorcerer levels, you must also remove an appropreate number of spells from the Sorcerer's list of spells known as well as any bloodline abilities aquired at that level, with the following exception; If you wish, you may give up the ability to aquire Path Masteries, as per the class feature, in exchange for being able to add your Shadowcaster level to your Sorcerer level for the purpose of advancing your bloodline, even if you exchange all Sorcerer levels. Bonus spells from your bloodline cannot be gained as mysteries, but you may add your bloodline's bonus feat list to the list of bonus feats you may acquire as a Shadowcaster.
When exchanging Psychic levels, you must also remove an appropriate number of spells from the Psychic's list of spells known as well as any discipline abilities acquired at that level.
When exchanging Arcanist or Wizard levels, you do not lose sorcerer/wizard spells from your spellbook, but you may lose access to said spells.
If you were a specialist, you may choose to retain this specialization as a Shadowcaster. Paths possessing mysteries of one of your opposition schools cannot be obtained until you can select mysteries of one grade higher, and are cast in the same form with the same number of uses. For example, an Evoker with Abjuration and Necromancy as opposing schools cannot select mysteries from the Cloak of Shadows, Shutters and Clouds, or Touch of Twilight paths until they have access to Initiate path mysteries. If you choose to maintain your specialization as a shadowcaster, your shadowcaster levels may be added to your Wizard levels for the purposes of advancing and aquiring arcane school abilities.
When exchanging Witch levels, your familiar does not lose knowledge of Witch spells, but you may still lose access to said spells. You normally may lose hexes as you exchange levels, but if you choose to give up the ability to acquire path masteries you may add your Shadowcaster levels to your Witch levels for the purposes of acquiring and advancing hexes. Alternatively, if you exchange Witch levels for Shadowcaster levels of the Ebon Sage archetype, you may make the following changes to the Ebon Sage Archetype; Advanced Learning provides Witch spells, including your patron spells. You prepare your mysteries by means of communing with your Witch's Familiar, a process that takes an hour and may be done to prepare your Witch spells and your mysteries simultaneously, and therefore do not gain a separate tome of magic to store your mysteries nor the Liquid Night fundamental as a bonus fundamental. You must take the familiar option of Arcane Bond.
Leave skills gained at that level, as well as hit points gained, as they are; these classess have the same number of skill points and hit points, and many skills are in common.
When replacing any Arcanist, Psychic, Sorcerer, Witch, or Wizard level at which you gained a bonus feat, you lose that feat.
When replacing any level at which you gained one of the following feats as a normal feat (not a class-related bonus feat), swap it out as follows: Trade metamagic feats for simular metashadow feats, Spell Focus for Path Focus, Greater Spell Focus for Greater Path Focus, and Versatile Spellcaster for Versatile Shadowcaster.
You can't lose a feat or class ability that would make you ineligible for any other feat or prestige class you already have, even if this means you can no longer take advantage of the creeping darkness feature.

Given what is described above, when planning to become a wizard/shadowcaster one should take into account the schools associated with each path.

Path Name School(s)
Apprentice Paths
Cloak of Shadows Abjuration, Illusion
Dark Snare" Conjuration
Dark Terrain Conjuration, Evocation
Darkest Dawn" Abjuration, Conjuration, Transmutation
Darkland Walker" Necromancy
Ebon Alluvium" Abjuration, Conjuration
Ebon Whispers Conjuration, Divination, Enchantment
Eyes of Darkness Divination, Transmutation
False Faces" Illusion, Necromancy, Transmutation
Hollow Facade" Illusion
Night's Long Fingers Illusion, Transmutation
Out of Mind" Enchantment, Illusion
Sepulcher Survival" Abjuration, Divination, Transmutation
Shaded Flame" Evocation
Shadow Puppetry" Conjuration, Transmutation
Shadow's Whispers" Divination
Shutters and Clouds Abjuration, Evocation, Illusion
Toppled Arcana" Abjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Touch of Twilight Conjuration, Necromancy
Twilight Evangelist* Abjuration, Enchantment
Twilight Studies" Conjuration, Divination, Transmutation
Umbral Charm" Enchantment
Umbral Mind Enchantment, Illusion, Transmutation
Voice from Beyond" Enchantment, Illusion
Waking Nightmares" Conjuration, Enchantment
Winding Trail" Divination, Transmutation
Initiate Paths
Benevolent Shadows* Abjuration, Evocation, Necromancy
Black Magic Abjuration
Body and Soul Enchantment, Transmutation
Boundless Void" Evocation, Illusion, Transmutation
Dark Creation* Illusion, Transmutation
Dark journey" Abjuration, Divination, Transmutation
Dark Justice* Abjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Dark Reflections Illusion, Transmutation
Dark Relic" Conjuration, Transmutation
Darkened Alleys Necromancy
Darkened Wards" Abjuration, Evocation
Ebon Contingency" Abjuration
Ebon Roads Conjuration, Illusion
Elemental Shadows Abjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Grim Reminder" Enchantment
Infinite Eyes" Divination, Evocation, Transmutation
Midnight Savagery" Enchantment, Transmutation
Midnight Secret" Abjuration, Divination, Enchantment
Nightmarish Domain" Conjuration, Transmutation
One with Shadow" Necromancy, Transmutation
Planar Nights* Abjuration, Conjuration
Shadow's Shield" Abjuration
Twilight Conspiracy" Divination, Enchantment
Twilight Lore" Divination
Twisted Mockery" Conjuration, Necromancy, Transmutation
Umbral Mass" Transmutation
Unbinding Shade Abjuration
Veil of Shadows Divination, Transmutaion
Voice of Night Divination, Evocation
Master Paths
Ancient Ward" Conjuration, Enchantment, Illusion
Black Sun" Evocation, Necromancy
Blackened Sky" Conjuration, Illusion, Transmutation
Breath of Twilight Evocation, Necromancy
Call to Darkness" Conjuration, Transmutation
Castle of Darkness" Abjuration, Conjuration, Illusion
Dark Dreams" Necromancy, Transmutation
Dark Metamorphosis Illusion, Transmutation
Dark Wasting" Evocation, Necromancy, Transmutation
Darkness Borealis* Evocation, Transmutation
Darkness Undying" Abjuration, Conjuration, Necromancy
Ebon Truth" Divination, Enchantment, Necromancy
Ebon Walls Conjuration, Necromancy
Endless Void" Conjuration, Enchantment, Transmutation
Eternal Servitude" Conjuration, Enchantment
Eventide Battleground" Conjuration, Necromancy, Transmutation
Eyes of the Night Sky Divination
Heart and Soul Enchantment
Midnight Athenaeum" Conjuration, Divination
One with Naught" Abjuration, Transmutation
Penumbral Master" Abjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Reality of Shadows* Illusion
Repentant Darkness* Abjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Shadow Arcana* Abjuration
Shadow Calling Conjuration
Shadowscape Conjuration, Transmutation
Shower of Shadows" Evocation
The Shadow that Was Conjuration, Necromancy, Transmutation
Warrior of Darkness Evocation, Transmutation, Necromancy

*Mystery found in Peacenlove's Complete Shadow
"Mystery found in Realms of Chaos's Descent of Shadows

2014-06-03, 12:31 AM
Really really good work :smallsmile:
I would like to add the witch on the eligible classes for Creeping darkness since she shares basically the same chassis as the other 2 and it fits thematically.

2014-06-03, 12:51 PM
Really really good work :smallsmile:
I would like to add the witch on the eligible classes for Creeping darkness since she shares basically the same chassis as the other 2 and it fits thematically.

Im glad you like it.

I had considered that, and do agree that it belongs in this. I will get right to adding that in, but if you have your own ideas for it then by all means.

Edit: Added Witch entries.

2016-04-06, 12:07 PM
Update: Added Psychic and Arcanist to the list of options. I considered adding a unique option to either, similar to the option allowed to Sorcerers, but I decided against it for now.