Dirty Trick feat line

[Sir Chuckles]

The There's dirty (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/improved-dirty-trick-combat) feat (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/greater-dirty-trick-combat) line (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/dirty-trick-master-combat) from Pathfinder is something I've always enjoyed the concept of.

However, I'm preparing for a 3.5 campaign in which I cannot use it because it's Pathfinder.

How would I go about emulating it in 3.5 by rules?
The feat line itself is vetoed, as the Dirty Trick maneuver is not a thing in 3.5.

[Talothorn]

Use it as written, but with an opposed roll in place of cmd

[Sir Chuckles]

Use it as written, but with an opposed roll in place of cmd

Disallowed by the DM.

[grarrrg]

Disallowed by the DM.

I'm assuming you want "what's the closest thing 3.5 has to dirty trick?" and that any back-porting will be disallowed.

[Sir Chuckles]

I'm assuming you want "what's the closest thing 3.5 has to dirty trick?" and that any back-porting will be disallowed.


How would I go about emulating it in 3.5 by rules?

Yeah that sounds about right.

[Snowbluff]

There are bunch of ways of getting debuffs onto the target, from feats like Stunning Fist and Sand Dancer to subsystems like maneuvers and invocations.

I actually was planning on compiling the information on this for a handbook, but I never finished...

[Sir Chuckles]

There are bunch of ways of getting debuffs onto the target, from feats like Stunning Fist and Sand Dancer to subsystems like maneuvers and invocations.

I actually was planning on compiling the information on this for a handbook, but I never finished...

Sand Dancer may be my best choice.

[Coidzor]

There are a few weapon properties that'll help pull this off. Sudden Stunning or Stunning will have a Cha-based save to avoid getting stunned each time a creature is hit with it.

[Vedhin]

Nothing I know of, but if you ever want to use it in PF try Pit Fighter (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/n-r/pit-fighter).

Wait. The 3.0 Arms & Equipment Guide has the weapon special material Gehennan Morguth-Iron. It has a weak injury poison built in, and you could debuff them with that.

Best I've got, sorry.