grarrrg
2014-06-04, 11:32 PM
Inspired by this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?354355-Stacking-Bites-in-PF) and this FAQ (paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9n88).
How many Bite attacks can we put on the same character?
As per the FAQ, we'll only be able to actually use ONE of them at a time, so this is just for the sake of FUN!*
*FUN probably not available in your area. If FUN persists for longer than 4 hours, consult a doctor.
Entries with a "*" in front of them are questionable**
**with the exception of the "FUN" notation, and this notation
Race:
Start with Half-Orc (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/half-orc), and trade away Orc Ferocity for the Tooty trait. +1d4 Bite
Then we take the Razortusk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/razortusk) feat, which gets us another +1d4 Bite
Adopted Trait (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/adopted) lets us grab any other Race Trait. I choose Mother's Teeth for a +1d2 Secondary Bite
Class (not listed in any particular order):
Barbarian 2 gives us the Animal Fury (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo---rage-powers/animal-fury-ex) Rage Power for a +1d4 Bite (non-typical Natural Attack)
Summoner (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner) 10 for the Aspect ability, which lets use steal up to 2 Evo points from our Eidolon. Guess what we spend them on? Added bonus, Bite only costs 1 Evo, and for a 2nd point we can get an extra +1/2 STR to damage with it! +1d6 Bite +1/2 STR
Crossblooded Sorcerer 1 for Draconic (see next class) and Serpentine (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/serpentine-bloodline) Bloodlines. Serpentine's 1st power is growing 'fangs'. While not quite a bit, their "poison save DC" refers to it as a Bite. +1d4 Fang-Bite
Dragon Disciple (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/dragon-disciple) 2, we get bloodline powers from Draconic, and whenever we use the Claws power, we get a bonus Bite, and that bonus Bite gets an extra +1/2 STR to damage. +1d6 Bite +1/2 STR
Oracle 1, Wolfscarred Face (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/oracle-curses#TOC-Wolfscarred-Face) Curse, due to how Multiclass-Curses work, this can reach 1d6 damage around level 10, and 1d8 damage around level 20, +1d4 Bite base
Alchemist 2, Feral Mutagen (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/discoveries/paizo---alchemist-discoveries/feral-mutagen) Discovery, also comes with Claws, +1d8 bite
Druid 2, various "_____ Shaman" archetypes (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid-archetypes) can gain a Totem Transformation that can grant a Bite attack (Bear, Dragon, Lion...). +1d6 Bite (some only grant +1d4 Bite)
Items:
Ring of Rat Fangs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rings/ring-of-rat-fangs), +1d4 Bite
*Cloak of Fangs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/cloak-of-fangs), another RAW/RAI thing, see "Savage Maw" spell description below. +1d6 Bite
Spells:
*Savage Maw (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/savage-maw), a little questionable, a strict RAW reading gives you a Bite attack, but a RAI leads towards it improving an existing Bite instead. Either need 3+ levels in appropriate casting class, or a decent UMD score. +1d4 Bite
Total Bites (so far...): 11! +2 on the fence
1d4 (Half-Orc)
1d4 (Half-Orc)
1d2 Secondary (Goblin Race Trait)
1d4 not quite Primary, not quite Secondary (Barbarian)
1d6 bonus +1/2 STR to damage (Summoner)
1d4 Fang-Bite (Sorcerer)
1d6 bonus +1/2 STR to damage (Dragon Disciple)
1d4 -to- 1d8 scaling damage (Oracle)
1d6 (Druid archetype)
1d8 (Alchemist)
1d4 (Ring of Rat Fangs)
*1d6 (Cloak of Fangs)
*1d4 (Savage Maw, questionable)
Current 'actual use' winner is either the Alchemist, for most base damage, or one of the 1d6+1/2 STR. All depends on if there are Size Increase shenanigans, and what our STR is.
Room for improvement:
Half-Orcs count as Human, and Humans can qualify for the Racial Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/racial-heritage) feat in order to count as yet ANOTHER race. Is there any other Feat based Bite attack? Race Specific Spells? (quick note: based on how Polymorph-type spells work, we do NOT want to use them, as they would definitely 'remove' our 2 Orc-bites, and possibly remove 1 or 2 of the others as well. This would be bad.)
20 of 20 levels spent, but Summoner can easily be ditched if there are enough other Class-Bites.
Honorable Mentions and 3rd Party
Honorable Mentions:
3rd Party:
Ferocious Bite (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/3rd-party-feats/paizo-fans-united/racial-feats---3rd-party---paizo-fans-united/ferocious-bite-racial) feat grants a Bite. Need to use the Human>Racial Heritage trick to count as a Lizardfolk though.
How many Bite attacks can we put on the same character?
As per the FAQ, we'll only be able to actually use ONE of them at a time, so this is just for the sake of FUN!*
*FUN probably not available in your area. If FUN persists for longer than 4 hours, consult a doctor.
Entries with a "*" in front of them are questionable**
**with the exception of the "FUN" notation, and this notation
Race:
Start with Half-Orc (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/half-orc), and trade away Orc Ferocity for the Tooty trait. +1d4 Bite
Then we take the Razortusk (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/razortusk) feat, which gets us another +1d4 Bite
Adopted Trait (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/adopted) lets us grab any other Race Trait. I choose Mother's Teeth for a +1d2 Secondary Bite
Class (not listed in any particular order):
Barbarian 2 gives us the Animal Fury (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo---rage-powers/animal-fury-ex) Rage Power for a +1d4 Bite (non-typical Natural Attack)
Summoner (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner) 10 for the Aspect ability, which lets use steal up to 2 Evo points from our Eidolon. Guess what we spend them on? Added bonus, Bite only costs 1 Evo, and for a 2nd point we can get an extra +1/2 STR to damage with it! +1d6 Bite +1/2 STR
Crossblooded Sorcerer 1 for Draconic (see next class) and Serpentine (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/serpentine-bloodline) Bloodlines. Serpentine's 1st power is growing 'fangs'. While not quite a bit, their "poison save DC" refers to it as a Bite. +1d4 Fang-Bite
Dragon Disciple (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/dragon-disciple) 2, we get bloodline powers from Draconic, and whenever we use the Claws power, we get a bonus Bite, and that bonus Bite gets an extra +1/2 STR to damage. +1d6 Bite +1/2 STR
Oracle 1, Wolfscarred Face (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/oracle-curses#TOC-Wolfscarred-Face) Curse, due to how Multiclass-Curses work, this can reach 1d6 damage around level 10, and 1d8 damage around level 20, +1d4 Bite base
Alchemist 2, Feral Mutagen (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/discoveries/paizo---alchemist-discoveries/feral-mutagen) Discovery, also comes with Claws, +1d8 bite
Druid 2, various "_____ Shaman" archetypes (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid-archetypes) can gain a Totem Transformation that can grant a Bite attack (Bear, Dragon, Lion...). +1d6 Bite (some only grant +1d4 Bite)
Items:
Ring of Rat Fangs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rings/ring-of-rat-fangs), +1d4 Bite
*Cloak of Fangs (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/cloak-of-fangs), another RAW/RAI thing, see "Savage Maw" spell description below. +1d6 Bite
Spells:
*Savage Maw (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/savage-maw), a little questionable, a strict RAW reading gives you a Bite attack, but a RAI leads towards it improving an existing Bite instead. Either need 3+ levels in appropriate casting class, or a decent UMD score. +1d4 Bite
Total Bites (so far...): 11! +2 on the fence
1d4 (Half-Orc)
1d4 (Half-Orc)
1d2 Secondary (Goblin Race Trait)
1d4 not quite Primary, not quite Secondary (Barbarian)
1d6 bonus +1/2 STR to damage (Summoner)
1d4 Fang-Bite (Sorcerer)
1d6 bonus +1/2 STR to damage (Dragon Disciple)
1d4 -to- 1d8 scaling damage (Oracle)
1d6 (Druid archetype)
1d8 (Alchemist)
1d4 (Ring of Rat Fangs)
*1d6 (Cloak of Fangs)
*1d4 (Savage Maw, questionable)
Current 'actual use' winner is either the Alchemist, for most base damage, or one of the 1d6+1/2 STR. All depends on if there are Size Increase shenanigans, and what our STR is.
Room for improvement:
Half-Orcs count as Human, and Humans can qualify for the Racial Heritage (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/racial-heritage) feat in order to count as yet ANOTHER race. Is there any other Feat based Bite attack? Race Specific Spells? (quick note: based on how Polymorph-type spells work, we do NOT want to use them, as they would definitely 'remove' our 2 Orc-bites, and possibly remove 1 or 2 of the others as well. This would be bad.)
20 of 20 levels spent, but Summoner can easily be ditched if there are enough other Class-Bites.
Honorable Mentions and 3rd Party
Honorable Mentions:
3rd Party:
Ferocious Bite (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/3rd-party-feats/paizo-fans-united/racial-feats---3rd-party---paizo-fans-united/ferocious-bite-racial) feat grants a Bite. Need to use the Human>Racial Heritage trick to count as a Lizardfolk though.